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Mcint: /* Meeting Notes: Next/Prev links */ add section with explantion

2026-02-24T01:49:59Z

Meeting Notes: Next/Prev links: add section with explantion

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	==Log==		==Log==
	* 14:55, 23 February 2026 (PST) -- updates to [[gh:noisebridge/infrastructure]], caddy configuration for the web server that serves the wiki, added rate limits per /24 IP range, limited to 30 requests per 5 second period.		* 14:55, 23 February 2026 (PST) -- updates to [[gh:noisebridge/infrastructure]], caddy configuration for the web server that serves the wiki, added rate limits per /24 IP range, limited to 30 requests per 5 second period.

			=Meeting Notes: Next/Prev links=
			On every meetings related page, see the [[Template:Meetings]] headerbox. Embedded there is the [[Template:WeeklyEventLinks]], a template that invokes [[Module:WeeklyEvent]] custom lua code for quick date calculations & text formatting for the wiki.
			{{meetings}}
			[[Template:WeeklyEventLinks]]:
			<blockquote>{{WeeklyEventLinks}}</blockquote>

			There are ideas about how to implement updating of the wiki pages by embedded forms, [https://chatgpt.com/c/699ce322-9090-832e-bcdd-19868c2f7ed6 here from chatgpt post].

			It's worth calling out there are 2 uses of '''next meeting''' and '''previous meeting''', which are distinct and should be maintained clearly separate in mind, perhaps even given separate evocative names (or also meta-evocative—evoking the ambiguity and which side each label sits on).

			* Embedded in some wiki pages, you want a link with text '''Next meeting''', that always points to the next meeting.
			** evergreen next
			** Could use a template, e.g. especially ''but not limited to'' calling the module that calculates page names for the next date in the series.
			* On many many wiki pages, by observed volume, one more each week, you want Next and Prev meeting links that point to the page for the next and previous events in the sequence of events.
			** fixed relative Next + Prev, or local static Next + Prev
			** relative to loaded page, fixed in text link... Could be copied from a template instantiation, but could not embed a template to do this.

Mcint: /* Anti-crawler */ header bump up a level

2026-02-23T22:55:24Z

Anti-crawler: header bump up a level

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	==Anti-crawler==		=Anti-crawler=
	<!-- note [[Anti-crawler]] page relies on this header format for deep-link -->		<!-- note [[Anti-crawler]] page relies on this header format for deep-link -->

	With rate limits (per IP block at the moment, could improve with user agent--as honest, or filter improbable) helps smooth and reject traffic from excessively aggressive crawlers from a wide variety of web scrapers, especially for LLM training data, in 2024 and since. The quality of the scrapers vary, and hit the site heavily even when requests timeout, or only a small fraction succeed. What matters most from this, is the scraping activity makes the site unusable for our community. We would like representation of our conversations in training data, the next stage of internet-scale human knowledge, but we're still building it, living it, and scraping has interfered with that. I'm sure this is true for many other parties as well, but these are the major factors and considerations we've identified.		With rate limits (per IP block at the moment, could improve with user agent--as honest, or filter improbable) helps smooth and reject traffic from excessively aggressive crawlers from a wide variety of web scrapers, especially for LLM training data, in 2024 and since. The quality of the scrapers vary, and hit the site heavily even when requests timeout, or only a small fraction succeed. What matters most from this, is the scraping activity makes the site unusable for our community. We would like representation of our conversations in training data, the next stage of internet-scale human knowledge, but we're still building it, living it, and scraping has interfered with that. I'm sure this is true for many other parties as well, but these are the major factors and considerations we've identified.

	===Log===		==Log==
	* 14:55, 23 February 2026 (PST) -- updates to [[gh:noisebridge/infrastructure]], caddy configuration for the web server that serves the wiki, added rate limits per /24 IP range, limited to 30 requests per 5 second period.		* 14:55, 23 February 2026 (PST) -- updates to [[gh:noisebridge/infrastructure]], caddy configuration for the web server that serves the wiki, added rate limits per /24 IP range, limited to 30 requests per 5 second period.

Mcint: add anti-crawler sections

2026-02-23T22:55:04Z

add anti-crawler sections

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	I want to embed these into the [[Template:T]] hierarchy linked in [[#Template Gateways]]		I want to embed these into the [[Template:T]] hierarchy linked in [[#Template Gateways]]


			==Anti-crawler==
			<!-- note [[Anti-crawler]] page relies on this header format for deep-link -->

			With rate limits (per IP block at the moment, could improve with user agent--as honest, or filter improbable) helps smooth and reject traffic from excessively aggressive crawlers from a wide variety of web scrapers, especially for LLM training data, in 2024 and since. The quality of the scrapers vary, and hit the site heavily even when requests timeout, or only a small fraction succeed. What matters most from this, is the scraping activity makes the site unusable for our community. We would like representation of our conversations in training data, the next stage of internet-scale human knowledge, but we're still building it, living it, and scraping has interfered with that. I'm sure this is true for many other parties as well, but these are the major factors and considerations we've identified.

			===Log===
			* 14:55, 23 February 2026 (PST) -- updates to [[gh:noisebridge/infrastructure]], caddy configuration for the web server that serves the wiki, added rate limits per /24 IP range, limited to 30 requests per 5 second period.

Mcint: /* Headerbox template links */ add wp:wp: link

2025-12-24T00:06:22Z

Headerbox template links: add wp:wp: link

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	{{boxend}}		{{boxend}}

	Use the mnemonic '''V'''iew · '''T'''alk ''page'' · '''E'''dit, in the template, referring to the template's page itself. See the [[wp:Template:Hackerspace]] template box on Wikipedia for use of this Template box idiom on Wikipedia where it's well-established, after being arrived at though extensive experimentation and modification. It's an idiom, but a standard one.		Use the mnemonic '''V'''iew · '''T'''alk ''page'' · '''E'''dit, in the template, referring to the template's page itself. See the [[wp:Template:Hackerspace]] template box on Wikipedia for use of this Template box idiom on Wikipedia where it's well-established, after being arrived at though extensive experimentation and modification. It's an idiom, but a standard one. [[wp:WP:Navigation_template#Types]]

	Matching wikipedia's Navbox templates		Matching wikipedia's Navbox templates
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	* <code><nowiki>[[:Template_Talk:About\|T]]</nowiki></code>: talk page, for discussions in context, capturing design wishes & thoughts, at time of use		* <code><nowiki>[[:Template_Talk:About\|T]]</nowiki></code>: talk page, for discussions in context, capturing design wishes & thoughts, at time of use
	* <code><nowiki>[[Special:EditPage/Template:About\|E]]</nowiki></code>: edit link functioning with on-wiki links. Cribbed knowledge of the MediaWiki function from wikipedia's use		* <code><nowiki>[[Special:EditPage/Template:About\|E]]</nowiki></code>: edit link functioning with on-wiki links. Cribbed knowledge of the MediaWiki function from wikipedia's use


	==Template Gateways==		==Template Gateways==

Mcint: create template gateways & semantic ontology project ideas

2025-08-16T03:30:51Z

create template gateways & semantic ontology project ideas

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	* <code><nowiki>[[:Template_Talk:About\|T]]</nowiki></code>: talk page, for discussions in context, capturing design wishes & thoughts, at time of use		* <code><nowiki>[[:Template_Talk:About\|T]]</nowiki></code>: talk page, for discussions in context, capturing design wishes & thoughts, at time of use
	* <code><nowiki>[[Special:EditPage/Template:About\|E]]</nowiki></code>: edit link functioning with on-wiki links. Cribbed knowledge of the MediaWiki function from wikipedia's use		* <code><nowiki>[[Special:EditPage/Template:About\|E]]</nowiki></code>: edit link functioning with on-wiki links. Cribbed knowledge of the MediaWiki function from wikipedia's use


			==Template Gateways==
			e.g. <code><nowiki>{{t}}</nowiki></code>, <code><nowiki>{{t/div}}</nowiki></code>, <code><nowiki>{{t/div/use}}</nowiki></code> so editors can type a short easy to remember template, hit preview, and get help on page for how to proceed further in more specific use. Similar in spirit, analogous, to the [[ext:Previews]] or [[ext:Navigation Popups]], but with render preview during edit instead of mouseover during browse. Fast feedback loops.
			{{t}}

			Trying to use these for styling, but also for date labeling [[Template:asof]] {{asof/2025}}.

			==Semantic-styled & -colored template wrappers==
			From [[Wiki/Ontology#Styling_Proposal:_Boxes_&_Colors]], let's implement these.

			I want to embed these into the [[Template:T]] hierarchy linked in [[#Template Gateways]]

Mcint: /* Headerbox template links */ add example, mnemonic, & explanation

2024-09-13T07:14:56Z

Headerbox template links: add example, mnemonic, & explanation

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	==Headerbox template links==		==Headerbox template links==
	<code>[[Wiki/Projects#Headerbox template links]]</code>		<code>[[Wiki/Projects#Headerbox template links]]</code>
			{{box5}} ...
			\|\| <small>[[:Wiki/Projects#Headerbox template links\|V]] · [[:Talk:Wiki/Projects#Headerbox template links\|T]] · [[Special:EditPage/Wiki/Projects#Headerbox template links\|E]]</small>
			{{boxend}}

			Use the mnemonic '''V'''iew · '''T'''alk ''page'' · '''E'''dit, in the template, referring to the template's page itself. See the [[wp:Template:Hackerspace]] template box on Wikipedia for use of this Template box idiom on Wikipedia where it's well-established, after being arrived at though extensive experimentation and modification. It's an idiom, but a standard one.

	Matching wikipedia's Navbox templates		Matching wikipedia's Navbox templates

Mcint: /* Non-duplication */ make template invocation more self-evident

2024-08-29T09:38:18Z

Non-duplication: make template invocation more self-evident

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	===Non-duplication===		===Non-duplication===
	[[:discord_link\|:discord_link]] -> [[Template:Discord_link#Usage]]		<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[:discord_link\|:discord_link]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> -> [[Template:Discord_link#Usage]]

	=Headerboxes=		=Headerboxes=

Mcint: /* Meta */ add example invocation markup

2024-08-29T09:37:29Z

Meta: add example invocation markup

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	===Meta===		===Meta===
	[[template:linkshere]]		[[template:linkshere]] <- <nowiki>{{linkshere}}</nowiki>
	[[template:subpages]]		[[template:subpages]] <- <nowiki>{{subpages}}</nowiki>

	===Non-duplication===		===Non-duplication===

Mcint: /* Templates / & / Badges & Userboxes */ subsections to h3 as integral effort,

2024-08-29T09:23:16Z

Templates: & Badges & Userboxes: subsections to h3 as integral effort,

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	* https://codesnippets.fandom.com/wiki/Userboxes (3rd party)		* https://codesnippets.fandom.com/wiki/Userboxes (3rd party)

	==Draft idea categories==		===Draft idea categories===
	[[:Category:Badges]]		[[:Category:Badges]]
	[[:Category:Headerbox]]		[[:Category:Headerbox]]
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	[[template:usergroups]] <== <nowiki>{{usergroups}}</nowiki>		[[template:usergroups]] <== <nowiki>{{usergroups}}</nowiki>

	==Meta==		===Meta===
	[[template:linkshere]]		[[template:linkshere]]
	[[template:subpages]]		[[template:subpages]]

	==Non-duplication==		===Non-duplication===
	[[:discord_link\|:discord_link]] -> [[Template:Discord_link#Usage]]		[[:discord_link\|:discord_link]] -> [[Template:Discord_link#Usage]]

Mcint: /* Templates / Add template-tracking section & / Draft idea categories / for / Badges & Userboxes */

2024-08-29T09:21:25Z

Templates: Add template-tracking section & Draft idea categories: for Badges & Userboxes

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 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Userboxes (dry)
 * https://codesnippets.fandom.com/wiki/Userboxes (3rd party)
 =Headerboxes=