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72.13.81.229: /* Why This Will Be Bad */

2013-07-02T05:47:07Z

Why This Will Be Bad

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	Johny Radio: I disagree with this proposal to:		Johny Radio: I disagree with this proposal to:
	move LOUD activities to the BACK of the space,		-move LOUD activities to the BACK of the space,
	and move QUIET activities to the FRONT [of the space.		-and move QUIET activities to the FRONT [of the space.

	Here's why: that's fighting the natural acoustics of our environment.		Here's why: that's fighting the natural acoustics of our environment.

72.13.81.229: /* Why This Will Be Bad */

2013-07-02T05:46:52Z

Why This Will Be Bad

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	Johny Radio: I ~~humbly but strongly~~ disagree with ~~Jarrod's~~ proposal to:		Johny Radio: I disagree with this proposal to:
	-move LOUD activities to the BACK of the space,		move LOUD activities to the BACK of the space,
	-and move QUIET activities to the FRONT [of the space.		and move QUIET activities to the FRONT [of the space.

	Here's why: that's fighting the natural acoustics of our environment.		Here's why: that's fighting the natural acoustics of our environment.

72.13.81.229: /* Why This Will Be Bad */

2013-07-02T05:42:08Z

Why This Will Be Bad

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	Soundproofing and painting the new room will be costly.		Soundproofing and painting the new room will be costly.

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			Johny Radio: I humbly but strongly disagree with Jarrod's proposal to:
			-move LOUD activities to the BACK of the space,
			-and move QUIET activities to the FRONT [of the space.

			Here's why: that's fighting the natural acoustics of our environment.

			-The front of the space is plagued with street noise. To put quiet activities at the street side will require keeping the front windows closed, to keep out street noise (if you really mean quiet)-- and possibly additional sound-proofing. We need the ventilation and outside light up there.

			-The rear of the space is naturally quiet. It's so peaceful and serene in the rear-- no street noise at all. Quiet activities can effortlessly achieve quiet in the rear of the space, even with the rear windows open.

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	=== How Long Will It Take ===		=== How Long Will It Take ===

Hicksu: /* Cheaper Option */

2013-06-23T00:10:35Z

Cheaper Option

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	==== Cheaper Option ====		==== Cheaper Option ====

	Sound dampening sealant and compound between the existing wall and a new layer of 5/8" sheetrock.		This appears to be a common strategy. Sound dampening sealant and compound between the existing wall and a new layer of 5/8" sheetrock.

	QuietGlue Pro sound dampening compound. 1 five Gallon bucket of compound should cover 12 sheets of gypsum board. 5 Gallon bucket is $200.00, need 3 buckets so $600.00		QuietGlue Pro sound dampening compound. 1 five Gallon bucket of compound should cover 12 sheets of gypsum board. 5 Gallon bucket is $200.00, need 3 buckets so $600.00

Hicksu: /* I also wonder if this will work */

2013-06-23T00:10:08Z

I also wonder if this will work

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	Fasteners 100.00		Fasteners 100.00

	Total = $~~766~~.00		Total = $820.00

	=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===		=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===

Hicksu: /* What Will Be Done */

2013-06-23T00:09:30Z

What Will Be Done

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	5/8" gypsum board: 8' x 4' piece at 10.00 per. Min 33 pieces = $330.00		5/8" gypsum board: 8' x 4' piece at 10.00 per. Min 33 pieces = $330.00

			Fasteners 100.00

			Total = $1090.00

	Fasteners and equipment = $100.00		Fasteners and equipment = $100.00
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	5/8" gypsum board: 8' x 4' piece at 10.00 per. Min 66 pieces = $660.00		5/8" gypsum board: 8' x 4' piece at 10.00 per. Min 66 pieces = $660.00

			Fasteners 100.00

			Total = $766.00

	=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===		=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===

Hicksu: /* Why This Will Be Bad */

2013-06-23T00:06:14Z

Why This Will Be Bad

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	=== Why This Will Be Bad ===		=== Why This Will Be Bad ===
	It will be alot of work. Both rooms will be unuseable during some of the transistion.		It will be alot of work. Both rooms will be unuseable during some of the transistion.

			Soundproofing and painting the new room will be costly.

	=== How Long Will It Take ===		=== How Long Will It Take ===
	Most of the work can be done while Noisebridge is open. Timeline TBD.		Most of the work can be done while Noisebridge is open. Timeline TBD.

Hicksu: /* What Will Be Done */

2013-06-23T00:05:27Z

What Will Be Done

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 Pricing Estimates:
 /8” Drywall Furring Channel: $9.95 per 12' length. Placed 16" on center to hang 5/8" sheetrock. Estimate 9 rows. 9 x 86 = 774' >> min. 65 lengths = $650.00
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 So.. I will do more research and see if there is a better solution in terms of price/performance.
 === What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===

Hicksu: /* What Will Be Done */

2013-06-22T23:25:21Z

What Will Be Done

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	The church room is 27' long 16' wide and 12' tall. Wall perimeter = 86 Ft. Wall area = 1032 SqFt.		The church room is 27' long 16' wide and 12' tall. Wall perimeter = 86 Ft. Wall area = 1032 SqFt.


	In terms of soundproofing the shop I expect I could: add soundproofing material to the walls, fur them out them out hat channel, and add a 5/8 layer of sheetrock. If we can soundproof:		In terms of soundproofing the shop I expect I could: add soundproofing material to the walls, fur them out them out hat channel, and add a 5/8 layer of sheetrock. If we can soundproof:

Hicksu: /* What Will Be Done */

2013-06-22T23:24:38Z

What Will Be Done

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	Enclose (E) Church classroom, move sliding door from (E) shop to (N) enclosing wall. Remove rear door in turing and fill in wall. Move Shop equipment and case work to shop. Install electrical and ventilation equipment (TBD). Fill in slider opening to (N) Church. Install door from Turing in (N) Church. Finish and Paint walls in (N) Church. Move classroom equipment to (N) Church.		Enclose (E) Church classroom, move sliding door from (E) shop to (N) enclosing wall. Remove rear door in turing and fill in wall. Move Shop equipment and case work to shop. Install electrical and ventilation equipment (TBD). Fill in slider opening to (N) Church. Install door from Turing in (N) Church. Finish and Paint walls in (N) Church. Move classroom equipment to (N) Church.

			The church room is 27' long 16' wide and 12' tall. Wall perimeter = 86 Ft. Wall area = 1032 SqFt.

			In terms of soundproofing the shop I expect I could: add soundproofing material to the walls, fur them out them out hat channel, and add a 5/8 layer of sheetrock. If we can soundproof:

			Pricing Estimates:

			7/8” Drywall Furring Channel: $9.95 per 12' length. Placed 16" on center to hang 5/8" sheetrock. Estimate 9 rows. 9 x 86 = 774' >> min. 65 lengths = $650.00

			dB-Bloc: ultra thin, ultra dense soundproofing membrane. 54" x 30' rolls (135 SqFt) Min 8 rolls at $300.00 per roll = $2400.00

			5/8" gypsum board: 8' x 4' piece at 10.00 per. Min 33 pieces = $330.00

			Fasteners 100.00

			Total 3480.00

			So.. I will do more research and see if there is a better solution in terms of price/performance.

	=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===		=== What Areas in the Space Will This Affect ===