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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 807th Meeting of Noisebridge].&lt;br /&gt;
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| 2025 04 08&lt;br /&gt;
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! Note-takers&lt;br /&gt;
| Loren, We-z, Mark&lt;br /&gt;
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! Moderators&lt;br /&gt;
| We-z, Loren&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2025 04 01|Previous Meeting]] {{last meeting}}&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Meeting_Notes_2025 04 15|Next Meeting]] {{next meeting}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meeting Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
Include:&lt;br /&gt;
TLDR what happened at the meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
* Announcements:&lt;br /&gt;
* Consensus Items:&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion Items:&lt;br /&gt;
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= Introductions =&lt;br /&gt;
* Ask people to share their &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; what they do at noisebridge &lt;br /&gt;
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 Loren - treasurer, talk to&lt;br /&gt;
 We-z - hang out all day, play weed smoke fortnite, like to infiltrate into things&lt;br /&gt;
 Josh - here, though not happy to be, it&amp;#039;s not his prime time&lt;br /&gt;
 JD - teach laser, 3d printing, do code compliance stuff&lt;br /&gt;
 Mark: does games loves nb&lt;br /&gt;
 Dre - doing master degree, background in phone repair&lt;br /&gt;
 Daniel: random stuff, quickly evolving situation. 3D printing guy. only small classes&lt;br /&gt;
 Chris: Designer and developer &lt;br /&gt;
 Tin: Into art, games&lt;br /&gt;
 David - degree in game design, love NB also&lt;br /&gt;
 Daniel A - fix the door when it breaks, hit me up&lt;br /&gt;
 Kyle - like art &amp;amp; games &amp;amp; making friends&lt;br /&gt;
 EHR - spacebridge&lt;br /&gt;
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= Short announcements and events =&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;60-second description per item in bulletpoint.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Copy-paste any pre-announcements for the upcoming meeting from [[Announcements]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;After announcements, copy them to the past [[Announcements]] list. Retire any from the Next Meeting list that aren&amp;#039;t marked ONGOING.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)&lt;br /&gt;
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* TOOOL - we-z - meetup coming up soon, if you like locks, keys, pins, picking. Thursday at 7?  Most likely in electronics.   See classes &amp;amp; meetups&lt;br /&gt;
* JD - laser still down, still figuring out filters&lt;br /&gt;
* Mark - cinema night, now thursdays, 8pm now maybe 7pm if people want (excepting [[Resident Electronic]] weeks)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Board election still open, re-annoucement, see [[Meeting Notes/2025 04 01]]&lt;br /&gt;
https://tinyurl.com/2vj6bz73&lt;br /&gt;
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* Limbolandia run this Saturday, 4/12, CoreyFro&lt;br /&gt;
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== Woodshop update ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
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* Cleared hurdles for getting permit done.&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to void previous permit. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Roof ladder cover -- landlord -- &lt;br /&gt;
** Roof repair didn&amp;#039;t work.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Excellence =&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &lt;br /&gt;
(Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Be kind.&lt;br /&gt;
* Don&amp;#039;t be a d*ck&lt;br /&gt;
* Treat this place, better than like your home. Like it&amp;#039;s your mom&amp;#039;s home (and you like her).&lt;br /&gt;
* Leave cool things that inspire future visitors to NB&lt;br /&gt;
* Clean up 120%&lt;br /&gt;
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What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence! &lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Harassment Policy &amp;amp; Community Standards of Excellence ==&lt;br /&gt;
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)&lt;br /&gt;
More approachable &amp;amp; specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards&lt;br /&gt;
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brief Kudos ==&lt;br /&gt;
Recent examples of excellent participation, say 3, unless the passion moves you.&lt;br /&gt;
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* To Elizabeth &amp;amp; Mary, for stepping in really quick (teaching) last week&lt;br /&gt;
* To Miko, for the knife class&lt;br /&gt;
* To Daniel, for giving a tour to swedish folks. Won&amp;#039;t bring the kids back, but will return himself.&lt;br /&gt;
* To Daniel, for helping with 3d printing work. Great new bridge&lt;br /&gt;
* To CoreyFro, for offering to do Limbolandia dump run with their truck&lt;br /&gt;
* To Jameson, for getting great filteration system for the woodshop. Helps a lot, circulates a lot. Complete air volume at 7 minutes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*  Kudos to WE-Z for losing a bet and as a result making a large donation to Noisebridge in return.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Big C Consensus Items =&lt;br /&gt;
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item or can be reserved for the discussion section of the meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Consensus Item: Right to refuse ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Right to refuse donations&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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We have existing norms about the excellence of donations (when, how, how much), in the interest of preventing unwanted dumping, and unmaintainable contributions. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;so let us ...?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[https://media.tenor.com/VXQU_KSpO4EAAAAM/obama-clear.gif To make abundantly clear that donations to Noisebridge are welcome but subject to acceptance.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is un-excellent to dump or force donations upon Noisebridge. Acceptance of donations is by consensus, in that, members may accept a donation on behalf of the organization unless another member objects. In which case, small c consensus must be reached before an item is accepted. Large items (larger than, say, a microwave) and items that may pose a physical danger to those on site must be accepted before being brought to Noisebridge. Unaccepted items, dumped items and items left on Noisebridge premises through any other un-excellent means, may be disposed of by Noisebridge with or without notice to the donor.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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= Discussion Items =&lt;br /&gt;
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It is recommended to post items for discussion ahead of time at https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting. (Check that the template for the meeting is in place already, and that last week&amp;#039;s notes have been moved to the wiki, of course)&lt;br /&gt;
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Item prompts should follow the format:&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: [your name here]&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking [decision/outcome/advice/something else]&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: [topic]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item: coworking area improvements ==&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: chris&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking temp check? budget?&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: coworking area improvements, want to make.  Lantern, LEDs, tables, comfy seating/chairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Want a more pleasant and warm environment upstairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Want to discuss area where DTG printer currently resides and whether it could be potentially relocated&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Would like a small budget of maybe a couple hundred bucks&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting loves the lights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many people raise concerns about lounge chairs displacing tools. Social hangout use distracts, conflicts with tools use, building, making.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris offers that lounge space might let the rest of the space serve its own purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
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We-z all lounge space.  DTG printer might be better somewhere else.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lighting agreement?  No -- no to mood lighting. Yes to task lighting.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Too Lounge-y -- becomes a safety issue.  More people hanging out. Turns certain people away.&lt;br /&gt;
** Chris offers, more loungey space attractive to membership.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Josh -- 2 thoughts.  Downstairs video game area.  Out in open, close to entrance, not nested deeply like, e.g. music room.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Daniel A -- see both sides: 1) don&amp;#039;t want people sleeping 2) really hate flourescent lighting  3) downstairs not used, too cold.  4) &lt;br /&gt;
* loren -- benches.   &amp;quot;perches&amp;quot; / leaning.  stools, light folding chairs&lt;br /&gt;
** JD - we have some lounge chairs downstairs we can try.&lt;br /&gt;
* daniel irl - we can improve lights&lt;br /&gt;
* elan - re: concern about sleeping places. Address with bringing back &amp;quot;mute mary&amp;quot; poppins, after closing, beeping.&lt;br /&gt;
* we-z - please use wording everyone can get along with&lt;br /&gt;
* Question: Isn&amp;#039;t our zoning based on us being a workshop and not a social lounge?&lt;br /&gt;
** JD, inspector (CoreyT) -- determined that the space is a workshop, appropraite for light industral zoning &lt;br /&gt;
* mark - wanted to suggest being last on tonight&amp;#039;s stack.  want to assemble comments online.&lt;br /&gt;
** loren -- let&amp;#039;s jit.si&lt;br /&gt;
* elle - would be faster and more effective to improve NB by just cleaning the space.&lt;br /&gt;
** loren -- need a project day soon&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item: the fence ==&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: elle&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking --- discuss, improve&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: the fence -- the structure, concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fundraising committee will be talking soon about this. But we&amp;#039;ve been talking about a grant thats opening real soon from the city, for exterior improvements that are already in process. We need evidence for them that weve already moved forward on the project.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two things we want improved: the fence, and the awning.&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we be talking to a fence contractor at this time?&lt;br /&gt;
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Loren: not sure if fence improvement is needed for zoning yet?&lt;br /&gt;
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JD: nothing official yet, but we were forewarned by someone who came to inspect the shop wall.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe I should just broach the subject with Michael Steiner the architect who was working on other stuff for us...&lt;br /&gt;
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Main concern: needs to be able to withstand wind loads.&lt;br /&gt;
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May need an engineer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Timeline on grant?  Not sure, not released yet, as of a few days ago, week and a half ago. Checking again.&lt;br /&gt;
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We need to be in process, have pulled a permit.  Or perhaps just applied for. Need to find out which. And what the deadline for grant application is. Bureaucracy task force, and fundraising meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item: growbridge ==&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: Daniel&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking temp check&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: grow bridge: growing plants of all storts.&lt;br /&gt;
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We could have a general hydroponics system.  Temp check -- when cannibis is federally legal?&lt;br /&gt;
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 Loren: Could grow in front yard, against the wall (can&amp;#039;t attach to), but concrete fence post.&lt;br /&gt;
 Elan: similar idea, terrace at the same spot.&lt;br /&gt;
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might just be planters then, not hydroponics.&lt;br /&gt;
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farley: fish hydroponics or GTFO.  aquaponics &lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item: digital art workshop ==&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: Tin  (david)&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking temp check&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: digital art workshop&lt;br /&gt;
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Who&amp;#039;s interested? -- (at least)&lt;br /&gt;
 David (online)&lt;br /&gt;
 Mark&lt;br /&gt;
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Generalist? or focus on animation? sculpture?&lt;br /&gt;
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David -- have run gamebridge in the past.  (Mark: come to gamebridge on wednesdays!) David is busy wednesdays :(&lt;br /&gt;
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Elle - embroidery machine art?  or DTG printer for shirts.  Inkscape works for all.  Amenable to teaching as well? &lt;br /&gt;
* Tin: vector art -- just outside my expertise. I know ToonBoom Studio, or other vector...3d.&lt;br /&gt;
* David says: yes it can be done.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cloud: tin &amp;amp; david, fyi, you are both in the gamebridge [discord server?] community already.  Tin:  I&amp;#039;ve been, it was all code. Seeking art-focused.  @Tin on discord.&lt;br /&gt;
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JD: real need for classes for vector based graphics stuff.  Laser, embroidery, general drafting, CAD stuff. Vinyl cutter.&lt;br /&gt;
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Loren -- NB logos. Shirts, embroidery, vinyl. trinkets commemerative to celebrate&lt;br /&gt;
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David: best day?&lt;br /&gt;
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Tin: might join -- same night, different room (mostly) as gamebridge. &lt;br /&gt;
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Loren:  could host once a month.  Vector graphics, multimedia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tin: my skills really focused on asset production for games.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item: workshop-workshop ==&lt;br /&gt;
From/Raised by: elle&lt;br /&gt;
Seeking temp check, guage interest.&lt;br /&gt;
On topic: workshop on workshops&lt;br /&gt;
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Pitch is: what if we had a separate event, for people who didn&amp;#039;t know they&amp;#039;re ready to host a workshop. &lt;br /&gt;
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elle: pixel art workshop. example, someone seemed nearly ready to, but weren&amp;#039;t ready to follow through when suggested, offered.&lt;br /&gt;
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= End of Meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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