Meeting Notes 2025 01 28 - Revision history

Mcint: /* D7: Charlenne atl */ updating name for ambiguous spellings

2025-03-05T03:55:46Z

D7: Charlenne atl: updating name for ambiguous spellings

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			Charlenne / Charlene?
	Has streamed to sexually explicit cam sites from noisebridge repeatedly, in such a way that other people in the space were caught in the background. Disregarding the type of content, this violates the principle of asking for consent for recording people at noisebridge. In particular, members may not want to be associated with particular types of content.		Has streamed to sexually explicit cam sites from noisebridge repeatedly, in such a way that other people in the space were caught in the background. Disregarding the type of content, this violates the principle of asking for consent for recording people at noisebridge. In particular, members may not want to be associated with particular types of content.

Mcint: still needs summary

2025-02-05T03:22:04Z

still needs summary

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-These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].
+These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 797th Meeting of Noisebridge].
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Mcint: /* Associate membership: Jameson */ adding context from meeting

2025-01-30T00:16:45Z

Associate membership: Jameson: adding context from meeting

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	Working on Buoy.fish, tracking network for commercial fishing gear (lost, stolen, everywhichthing), on Helium network.		Working on Buoy.fish, tracking network for commercial fishing gear (lost, stolen, everywhichthing), on Helium network.

			Long-time participant, now looking to use more and give back more.

	No one objects! Welcome new member!		No one objects! Welcome new member!

Mcint: /* top */ hide header to clear

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Mcint: /* Discussion Items */ update headers

2025-01-30T00:04:07Z

Discussion Items: update headers

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	== ~~(discussion item) 1~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D1: Writer's workshop -- annual workshop at NB ==
	From/Raised by: Judy		From/Raised by: Judy
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	Friday June 6th. We will put out a table at the front and ask for money. If folks want to come and work during that time it's totally ok but there will be a strongly suggested donation. We will need quiet downstairs during that time (no wood shop etc).		Friday June 6th. We will put out a table at the front and ask for money. If folks want to come and work during that time it's totally ok but there will be a strongly suggested donation. We will need quiet downstairs during that time (no wood shop etc).

	== ~~(discussion item) 2~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D2: Arena Magazine -- 3rd issue, launch event? ==
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	JD - points out we are not permitted as a nighttime entertainment venue and considering that we are currently in permit review before the planning and zoning commission with a noise complaint from the neighbors, it is recommended that proper permits for the event are obtained.		JD - points out we are not permitted as a nighttime entertainment venue and considering that we are currently in permit review before the planning and zoning commission with a noise complaint from the neighbors, it is recommended that proper permits for the event are obtained.

	== ~~(discussion item) 3~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D3: Makerhacks ==
	From/Raised by: Elan		From/Raised by: Elan
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	Conclusion: if there are people at NB who would be willing to supervise the 3D printers there's space to put them (hackatorium has space), though so far nobody from NB has stepped up to the task.		Conclusion: if there are people at NB who would be willing to supervise the 3D printers there's space to put them (hackatorium has space), though so far nobody from NB has stepped up to the task.

	== ~~(discussion item) 4~~: Hack Club Scrapyard ==		== D4: Hack Club Scrapyard ==
	From/Raised by: Walter, Ajith		From/Raised by: Walter, Ajith
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	- Maybe trained Noisebridge users can use the laser cutter or other dangerous equipment on behalf of attendees?		- Maybe trained Noisebridge users can use the laser cutter or other dangerous equipment on behalf of attendees?

	== ~~(discussion item) 5~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D5: Aj 86/atl? ==
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	== ~~(discussion item) 6~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D6: mischa 86 ==
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	== ~~(discussion item) 7~~: ~~[topic]~~ ==		== D7: Charlenne atl ==
	From/Raised by: Elle		From/Raised by: Elle
	Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]		Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]

Mcint: /* (discussion item) 4: Hack Club Scrapyard = */ fix header level

2025-01-30T00:01:34Z

(discussion item) 4: Hack Club Scrapyard =: fix header level

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	Conclusion: if there are people at NB who would be willing to supervise the 3D printers there's space to put them (hackatorium has space), though so far nobody from NB has stepped up to the task.		Conclusion: if there are people at NB who would be willing to supervise the 3D printers there's space to put them (hackatorium has space), though so far nobody from NB has stepped up to the task.

	= (discussion item) 4: Hack Club Scrapyard ==		== (discussion item) 4: Hack Club Scrapyard ==
	From/Raised by: Walter, Ajith		From/Raised by: Walter, Ajith
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	No one objects! Welcome new member!		No one objects! Welcome new member!


	= Do-ocratic Task Board =		= Do-ocratic Task Board =

Mcint: create, no edits, no summary

2025-01-30T00:01:09Z

create, no edits, no summary

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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

-> Date / Note-taker / Moderator // Prev + Next links / Summary

UPDATE meeting number above where it says the XXXth meeting of Noisebridge (by checking previous meetings)

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! Note-takers
| Julius, Anh, Walter YOUR NAME HERE?
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| PUT THEIR NAME HERE
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ALSO EDIT PREVIOUS AND NEXT DATES IN THE WIKI LINKS BELOW

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| [[Meeting_Notes_2025_MONTH_DAY|Previous Meeting]] {{last meeting}}
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* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST/SLACK/DISCORD
Include:
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New associates:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Ask people to share their '''name, access needs, and preferred gender pronouns''' what they do at noisebridge

Anh - Been here for a couple months, do random work. Sometimes Spacebridge, or take a class

Adrian - Showed up yesterday. Now I;m here as well. Still tyring to figure out what i can contribute

Jamison- Came a long time ago and hacked on wood/leather projects. Quit my job and doing a startup.

Eric - I do a lot of random stuff here. Learning, take classes, stuff like that. Been coming for a very long time. At least ten years

Josh - Tends to be here on prime-numbered meetings for some reason

Ajit - Just showed up here today. Low altitude aeronautics. Rocketry and random projects

Walter - Second time here. First time was sunday. Counterculture Labs, Sudo Room. Checking out the space and the equipment.

Jack - First time here. Just came with Ajit to come explore. Very excited

Atoun (sic) - Writer and editor of Arena Magazine, would like to host event here

Judy - Organizer of writer's workshop. We meet every week on Tuesday. Working on another idea - create a cross-disciplinary discussion here about building resistance to the current regime.

Cynthia - the person who hung around the kitchen and tried to keep it hygenic (a lost cause). Retired physician. Help people research ideas

Ken - Been involved with NB for a few years. Associated with wood shop/sewing but I like to get involved with all kinds of projects.

Loren - Treasurer

= Short announcements and events =
* '''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''
* '''Copy-paste any pre-announcements for the upcoming meeting from [[Announcements]].'''
* '''After announcements, copy them to the past [[Announcements]] list. Retire any from the Next Meeting list that aren't marked ONGOING.'''
* (See https://www.noisebridge.net/ and https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Events for events, and welcoming people)

Frank Binom has been ill. I would love to just call and say hi from Noisebridge.

Judy - SF writer's workshop has run a little fundraiser for Noisebridge for the last two years (Friday June 6th). Let's check in with Elan on making a thread on event support.

= Excellence =
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(On first Tuesdays, seek a few definitions. Other Tuesday, give a 1-3 sentence summary.)

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

== Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence ==
Noisebridge has an [[Anti-Harassment Policy]] https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Anti-Harassment_Policy
Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.) TWO MINUTES MAX
More approachable & specific guidelines, https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Community_Standards
https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Slack.

== Brief Kudos ==
Recent examples of excellent behavior, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

To Jules -- for showing around new curious members.

Taking out the Trash, taking ownership, stewardship. Kevin on Monday, Sergio, coming back to.

Eric -- showing jules how to use the bamboo, easiest 3d printing I've ever done

= Guilds =
* '''What are [[guilds]] - briefly describe''' (much like the previous section on "Excellence")
''What are guilds? Science has yet to discover''

= New Members/Associate Members =
What are they? Is anyone trying to become a Member or Associate Member? If not move on. No long discussions.

Jamison - associate member application - Loren is sponsor. Circling back once form is complete

= Financial Report (first Tuesday of month only) =
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''
Loren - sent out some reimbursements. Starting to track those on the reimbursments post on the finance forum on discord. $2000 for new filters for the laser cutter. 200-300 to Ken for wood shop wall lumber. Made a post about internal balance transfers. The reason I'm going into this much detail is to solicit interest from folks who want to be involved in finance. DM me (mcint) or post in finance forum
$118,000 in cash on hand. Transferred enough for rent (auto pays 10k at the end of the month). We can be updating the wiki with financial statments. Would love help with that. There is an account on coinbase. We are setting up shared custody.

* Monthly revenue, expenses. Big projects. Big fundraising events. Reserves in bank.
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances

== Spending Needs ==
Gotta spend money on XYZ (i.e. Gate, wiring etc.). WHO CAN SIGN THE CHECK OR LEND THE CREDIT CARD!?!?! It doesn't matter if we agree to do something and it can’t be paid for.

* Build plate in Bamboo -- deep scratches -- no adhesion. Talk in #3d-printing in discord.

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

= Big C Consensus Items =
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if new people are present. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.

Further discussion under Stewards
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= Discussion Items =
== Template... [num]: [topic-short] ==
From/Raised by:
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:

== (discussion item) 1: [topic] ==
From/Raised by: Judy
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:Writer's Workshop wants to do their annual workshop at Noisebridge
Friday June 6th. We will put out a table at the front and ask for money. If folks want to come and work during that time it's totally ok but there will be a strongly suggested donation. We will need quiet downstairs during that time (no wood shop etc).

== (discussion item) 2: [topic] ==
From/Raised by:
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic:Arena Magazine wants to debut their third issue mid/late February 22nd Saturday at 7-10 PM. We would like the whole space. Aiming for 100 people. There will be a bar.

Arena - celebrating the new. Championing civilization, technology, and capitalism.

Julius - Let's make an event support topic and solicit more members to help organize

Judy - Check meetup to make sure

JD - points out we are not permitted as a nighttime entertainment venue and considering that we are currently in permit review before the planning and zoning commission with a noise complaint from the neighbors, it is recommended that proper permits for the event are obtained.

== (discussion item) 3: [topic] ==
From/Raised by: Elan
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic: Makerhacks Feb 1st/2nd

Phanikrishna - first ever highschool maker hackathon Feb 1st/2nd at 45 Fremont Street. The venue doesn't allow 3d printers for security reasons. We want to set up some printers at NB during the event.

Julius - who will be at NB running the printers?

P -

Conclusion: if there are people at NB who would be willing to supervise the 3D printers there's space to put them (hackatorium has space), though so far nobody from NB has stepped up to the task.

= (discussion item) 4: Hack Club Scrapyard ==
From/Raised by: Walter, Ajith
Seeking: advice/[?]
On topic: Hack Club is running an event called Scrapyard from Mar 15-16, would Noisebridge be a good place to host it?

Nonprofit org across the world. Coding clubs for highschoolers. CS, tech, make stuff. They run events. Large scale, simultaneous. Scrapyard

March 15th-16th. Interest in this space in particular due to open nature and availability of equipment, parts, etc.

Problem: liability for teenagers who attend, handling legal responsability and behavior
- Hack Club has all attendees and parents fill out liability waivers before they can participate, maybe that can integrate w/ Noisebridge
- The Scrapyard team can also bring in responsible adults and team members to supervise
- Mark has helped organize/hosted(?) an event similar to Scrapyard in the past w/ high school participants, maybe we can figure something out with his prior experience

Problem: community participation, age restriction
- Noisebridge users will be able to build in tandem w/ (and mentor) Srapyard attendees, though won't be able to submit to Hack Club HQ for global ranking and prizes
- Will need to check in with Hack Club HQ for all the details

Problem: equipment that requires prior training or authorization (ex: laser cutter, sewing room)
- Can be easily locked off from attendee usage
- Maybe trained Noisebridge users can use the laser cutter or other dangerous equipment on behalf of attendees?

== (discussion item) 5: [topic] ==
From/Raised by: Julius
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic: AJ 86/atl

86-ing AJ who threw eggs at Noisebridge and was asked to clean it up but refused

Wheezy asked Eric for help getting AJ to leave. More concerning was that he came in and left with a big bag of stuff. It is possible that he is removing noisbridge property from the space.

We will discuss further on discord. In the meantime, AJ has been formally asked to leave pending final action.

2nd
by wheezy

== (discussion item) 6: [topic] ==
From/Raised by: Julius
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic: Proposing 86 for Mischa

Mischa was observed being negligent/abusive towards two dogs in the space. He let them poop and urinate on the floors and was resistant to cleaning up after them. He was also observed sleeping in the space, and reacted with hostility when he was told that this was not allowed. He continued to escalate on the discord until he was timed-out.

He has engaged in misleading communication with members of noisebridge and seems to consider his relationship with the community to be primarily extractive. For these reasons, it seems unlikely that mediation will lead to positive outcomes.

== (discussion item) 7: [topic] ==
From/Raised by: Elle
Seeking: decision/outcome/advice/[?]
On topic: Charlenne atl

Has streamed to sexually explicit cam sites from noisebridge repeatedly, in such a way that other people in the space were caught in the background. Disregarding the type of content, this violates the principle of asking for consent for recording people at noisebridge. In particular, members may not want to be associated with particular types of content.

==Associate membership: Jameson==
Sponsor by Loren

Working on Buoy.fish, tracking network for commercial fishing gear (lost, stolen, everywhichthing), on Helium network.

No one objects! Welcome new member!

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.) https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Last_meeting&redirect=no
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

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