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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{meetings}}  These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 721th Meeting of Noisebridge].   Date: 2023_04_25   This meeting is a -...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 721th Meeting of Noisebridge].&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: 2023_04_25&lt;br /&gt;
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This meeting is a - BRIDGE - d!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Meeting_Notes_2023_04_11|Previous Meeting]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Meeting_Notes_2023_05_02|Next Meeting]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Note-takers: Mark&lt;br /&gt;
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Moderators: Mark&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;NOTE:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Consider turning off fridge for the duration of the meeting. It is very loud and sometimes prevents people on video conference from hearing those in the space.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meeting Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST&lt;br /&gt;
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TLDR what happened at the meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
* Fundraising Update&lt;br /&gt;
* Announcements:&lt;br /&gt;
* Finances:&lt;br /&gt;
* New members:&lt;br /&gt;
* New philanthropists:&lt;br /&gt;
* Consensus Items: &lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion Items:&lt;br /&gt;
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= Introductions =&lt;br /&gt;
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People:&lt;br /&gt;
    Devon&lt;br /&gt;
    Mark&lt;br /&gt;
    TJ&lt;br /&gt;
    Max&lt;br /&gt;
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= Short announcements and events =&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspector coming Wednesday morning, be advised&lt;br /&gt;
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Gamebridge class should meet instead at this!&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.meetup.com/monthly-sf-game-development-community/events/292667148/&lt;br /&gt;
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Unreal Engine Hack Night Thursday May 4th! (see #games in discord)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fix for doorbell - by the power panel - ripped out from the panel&lt;br /&gt;
digital keypad instead of phone&lt;br /&gt;
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Also: Trello kiosk! Project that has been in progress for other weeks. Interface for creating and working on tasks that needs to be done. Hooked to our Trello board&lt;br /&gt;
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Works without login (or proposedly)!&lt;br /&gt;
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= Excellence =&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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(What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence! &lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.) TWO MINUTES MAX&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guilds ==&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;What are guilds - briefly describe&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (much like the previous section on &amp;quot;Excellence&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Members/Associate Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
What are they? Is anyone trying to become a Member or Associate Member? If not move on. No long discussions.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Financial Report =&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Funds in bank:&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):&lt;br /&gt;
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials&lt;br /&gt;
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Finances&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spending Needs ==&lt;br /&gt;
Gotta spend money on XYZ (i.e. Gate, wiring etc.). WHO CAN SIGN THE CHECK OR LEND THE CREDIT CARD!?!?! It doesn&amp;#039;t matter if we agree to do something and it can’t be paid for.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising Update ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;How&amp;#039;s it all going&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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= Big C Consensus Items =&lt;br /&gt;
Nobody likes 3 hour meetings, only explain if people ask. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[ Consensus Items ]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Only for talking about Big C consensus items, small c consensus items should be discussed with people at the space at the time of the change/new item.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Discussion =&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item 0 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gate Keypad&lt;br /&gt;
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Phone box is broken, some dude ripped it off from the outside and trashed it. Fix still in progress.&lt;br /&gt;
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People suggest implementing a digital keypad solution. Mark suggests working on that in parallel.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item 1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Designated Smoking Area/ Rules&lt;br /&gt;
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Need to have clarity - some ambiguity currently&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently, the website says: &amp;quot;If you&amp;#039;re going to smoke, smoke downstairs on the sidewalk, away from our doorway. This includes all substances, including tobacco and marijuana.  Do not smoke on the fire escape -- it affects everyone in the space, plus the ash falls down onto the fruit below, and the fire service gets mad at us.&amp;quot; - which is out of date. We don&amp;#039;t have a fire escape.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it:&lt;br /&gt;
    - In the back?&lt;br /&gt;
    - In front porch?&lt;br /&gt;
    - In front on the curb?&lt;br /&gt;
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Do people have qualms with being on the curb?&lt;br /&gt;
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Code says it should be on the curb&lt;br /&gt;
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No one objects to the idea in the meeting - we will publicizing the intent in various social channels - John and Sebastian volunteer to head up that discussion online&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item 2: A/V setup==&lt;br /&gt;
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From ryan (pyconaut):&lt;br /&gt;
    - Also I reconnected the subwoofer to the audio panel downstairs the other night (and tuned it to a degree) and tried to get the chrome cast and apple TV working with the projector.  Everything works except the hdmi splitter (somehow the wrong power adapter I think was used and messed it up).  I tested everything with my vr cart hdmi spliter and everything worked, but that splitter does not have an audio out. &lt;br /&gt;
I looked everywhere for the church or Turing projector setups but couldn&amp;#039;t find them (last year they were both in the rolling cabinet next to the stage).  Should I just order a new hdmi splitter (would probably be good to get a newer one anyways).&lt;br /&gt;
-2 inputs would handle much more equipement &lt;br /&gt;
Drawer full of splitters?&lt;br /&gt;
Wants to buy nice ones for Noisebridge / 8k streaming&lt;br /&gt;
PHD - push here dummy!&lt;br /&gt;
8k 4in x 2out switcher&lt;br /&gt;
Supports 4k 120 Hz, great AV&lt;br /&gt;
$160 &lt;br /&gt;
8k are cheaper, but can&amp;#039;t handle new games&lt;br /&gt;
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Drawer full of splitters? Not good enough&lt;br /&gt;
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Sebastian reccomends: Botin foundation scholarship? Don&amp;#039;t invest in software, recommend lifespan of technology, won&amp;#039;t give grants to recurring asks. Very specific audio setup + order double to account for lifespan&lt;br /&gt;
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pyconaut also recommends surround speakers. Look at #totally-secret-cabal... for more info&lt;br /&gt;
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Wishlist / Donation list ?&lt;br /&gt;
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TJ will follow up / pin message somewhere from last week&lt;br /&gt;
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Cool to buy vs. wishlist&lt;br /&gt;
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Also list on companies &lt;br /&gt;
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Separate big things from small ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Pinned message that leaks to document in #totally-secret-cabal...  / Noisebridge wiki page&lt;br /&gt;
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Considered using dedicated tool for asset management (SnipeIT)?&lt;br /&gt;
asset management and stock tracking&lt;br /&gt;
Parts database is there, but shortcomings are abound&lt;br /&gt;
TJ , @devoz&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Item 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Update on trash bin pricing&lt;br /&gt;
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048755553108770967/1098738416956493894/image.png&lt;br /&gt;
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Update from Recycology&lt;br /&gt;
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We currently pay $342 / month for 3 bins (NOT $600)&lt;br /&gt;
If we wanted larger bin (currently have 64 gallon), 64-&amp;gt;96 $470/month&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is it that much?&lt;br /&gt;
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Anything we can do to lower costs? Produce less trash&lt;br /&gt;
Non profit argument didn&amp;#039;t work&lt;br /&gt;
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LXPK: shredding to reduce waste?&lt;br /&gt;
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Lot of trash generated by laser cutter / woodshop, hard to break down&lt;br /&gt;
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Wood can be burned, but not practical&lt;br /&gt;
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Wood shredder? corey? No response&lt;br /&gt;
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Max is skeptical&lt;br /&gt;
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Impractical to keep up that much wood generated&lt;br /&gt;
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Could woodshop raise money to adapt to monthly cost&lt;br /&gt;
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I can do a dump run every two weeks for extra wood (also costs $120 / month)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe we can limit what goes into the space?&lt;br /&gt;
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Policy: Don&amp;#039;t bring in without checking where it would go&lt;br /&gt;
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Can put current things in Limbo Landia, i.e. things headed for the dump&lt;br /&gt;
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Where to put the stuff for preparing the partition for woodshop, what will happen once partition is finished?&lt;br /&gt;
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Need to determine what is and isn&amp;#039;t project on case by case basis&lt;br /&gt;
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How to create stronger enforcement of where is good place to leave project? Better dedicated project space? Step 1 could be cleaning up abanded projects, put up dividers. &lt;br /&gt;
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Mark: Recommendations and vigilance&lt;br /&gt;
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???: Need to separate into large and small . Small can fit in boxes, large can be more useful.&lt;br /&gt;
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John : exists designated sizes&lt;br /&gt;
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???: 4x4 plywood. But could put in stall, that can be stored more efficiently.&lt;br /&gt;
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???: What do we do as we grow?&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark : instill better culture&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark: breakdown of bill?&lt;br /&gt;
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Max: percent recycling/compost to trash. If increasing recycling, significantly cheaper than cost. Quoting from recology: &amp;quot;Diversion discount, a landfill diversion discount equal to the diversion volume percentage less 25% is then subtracted. Diversion volume percentage equals recycling and composting volume divided by total volume.&lt;br /&gt;
Right now you have 64g trash 2x a week, if you decrease the cart or decrease to one a day a week your rate will go down.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Max: Can&amp;#039;t get compacter, that&amp;#039;s a safety concern? &lt;br /&gt;
*actually, $100 appliance that remains closed when operating*&lt;br /&gt;
Max : So this isn&amp;#039;t industrial&lt;br /&gt;
*potentially on craigslist*&lt;br /&gt;
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Devon; Untreated lumber scraps, places to place it &lt;br /&gt;
???: Rarely clean lumber.&lt;br /&gt;
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John : extra trash bin, not used / accessed in past couple weeks. So got rid of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&amp;#039;s a Slack channel called #finance-wg, they will give you money for stuff&lt;br /&gt;
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Find breakdown of costs (Mark)&lt;br /&gt;
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No increased plan yet&lt;br /&gt;
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Incinerators? (ehhhhh)&lt;br /&gt;
Needs further research&lt;br /&gt;
Legal / zoning issue?&lt;br /&gt;
Is it safe?&lt;br /&gt;
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More?&lt;br /&gt;
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List of questions for inspector? Slack thread in #general&lt;br /&gt;
Ken will be here tomorrow (most likely)&lt;br /&gt;
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= Do-ocratic Task Board =&lt;br /&gt;
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it&amp;#039;s a great way to show you are contributing! &lt;br /&gt;
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= End of Meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Note taker posts the notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.&lt;br /&gt;
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.&lt;br /&gt;
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.) https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Last_meeting&amp;amp;redirect=no&lt;br /&gt;
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.&lt;br /&gt;
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.&lt;br /&gt;
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.&lt;br /&gt;
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fun things to do after==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom&lt;br /&gt;
* Have some beers on the patio&lt;br /&gt;
* Prepare the next weeks&amp;#039; meeting notes &lt;br /&gt;
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them&lt;br /&gt;
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)&lt;br /&gt;
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