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		<title>Mpmckenna8: Meeting notes for today</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Meeting notes for today&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the notes from the The ???th Meeting of Noisebridge. Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE Note-taker: Xander Johnson (@metasyn); Moderators: Matt McKenna (@mpmckenna8).&lt;br /&gt;
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** NOTE : Sorry if I fucked up your name or pronouns - (Xander)&lt;br /&gt;
https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the notes from the The ???th Meeting of Noisebridge. Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE Note-taker: Xander Johnson; Moderators: Matt McKenna (@mpmckenna8).&lt;br /&gt;
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** NOTE : Sorry if I fucked up your name or pronouns - (Xander)&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt is here. He does web development stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
Rassul is here too. He knows python and does cool stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
Ben is here too! He is web developer. He hacks on random open source stuff. Wikipedia FTW - and has a meetup about it.&lt;br /&gt;
Elisa is here. They do new (she thinks). And does 2D art. &lt;br /&gt;
Tyler is also here! So many people here. They love the awesome people and crazy projects; web dev, word working (but not limited to)&lt;br /&gt;
Katherine (sp) - is here - third time here. Is an artist - does sculpture&lt;br /&gt;
Izzy (she/her) ; C, C++, Rust, Python - Compuster Science FTW (NO GOLANG OR JAVA POR FAVOR); available to answer stuff on C++ --&amp;gt; down to electrical stuff&lt;br /&gt;
Xander is here too! He is very new.&lt;br /&gt;
Ryan (he/him) helps take care of things - does research on ERRYTHANG. In charge of makerfaire &lt;br /&gt;
Michael (he/him) - loves noise bridge ; helps restore faith in humanity - audio/video/web stuff&lt;br /&gt;
Freddy - originally from italy - left for a few months but is back. Data science - data stuff, python, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
riley - learning programming &lt;br /&gt;
ayre has been here... 17 times? They&amp;#039;re in love this with this place after being away for a long time; quantum mechanics and math; wants to share projects&lt;br /&gt;
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Discussion moved to talking about what noisebridge generally is (in case people do not know):&lt;br /&gt;
    Riley mentions: hackerspace, teaching, tools, distribution of knowledge, for free, for those that desire&lt;br /&gt;
    for anyone to build anything; do-ocracy, we try to make the future that we want to see, rather than waiting for others to do it for us&lt;br /&gt;
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    Rule #1: Be excellent to each other&lt;br /&gt;
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Different types of participation:&lt;br /&gt;
    Philanthropist - you&amp;#039;ve made a commitment to come here regularly and take care of the space - this comes with responsibility, as well as 24/7 access - checking lights, setting things up, making a general monthly contribution to noisebridge (depending on what you can afford)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Membership - big &amp;quot;M&amp;quot; membership is for the most part not something to strive towards; but rather something you become if it benefits noisebridge for the most part - you become part of the immune system and gain responsibility for keeping communication channels open, ensuring we don&amp;#039;t burn everything in a mad fit of rage etc - its a hard process because you need to apply for it - after people know you really well and after 4 weeks its brought up at Tuesday night general meetings - (on the 4th) if there is quorum - the person will leave and the members can decide if giving that individual membership makes sense. Consensu based (if no one blocks) - but bave 2 weeks &amp;quot;grace period&amp;quot; where they can be blocked again and go back from being a member to being a philantropist.&lt;br /&gt;
    ** Caveat: we&amp;#039;re all members (little &amp;quot;m&amp;quot;) membership - so lets all encourage each other to be involved&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
    Consider talking/thinking about how to get more people involved in the future&lt;br /&gt;
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    Anyone can ask for the memberlist - but, there isn&amp;#039;t an official count on the number of members, but it is small.&lt;br /&gt;
    Don&amp;#039;t feel like you need to be limited though - be yourself and do whatever you want (anarchy ftw)&lt;br /&gt;
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    &amp;quot;Membership is like having kids&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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    Philantropists and Members can give out RFID tokens that give you access to the space&lt;br /&gt;
        * Sometime around 10 or 11 in the morning to sometime in the evening like 10 or something?&lt;br /&gt;
        &lt;br /&gt;
    Doners, and &amp;quot;Super Philantropists++&amp;quot; exist.&lt;br /&gt;
    There is a form; althought it also matters to become well known by the other people in the space.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Philantropy Applications ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Cass Grant - are you here?&lt;br /&gt;
* Sponsored by Lady Red&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ken Adler - are you here?&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently sponsorless&lt;br /&gt;
* They is a farmer; and is a maybe a member already? Maybe wants to restart donations?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are going to apply - try to come to the meetings *or* have someone represent you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside: sometimes meetings can take a long time - but sometimes questions are good too &lt;br /&gt;
 * &amp;quot;unmeetings&amp;quot; can take longer because we don&amp;#039;t got none of those scheduled topics&lt;br /&gt;
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Ryan is mentioning that everyone is focused on the new space, so because of that, some of the normal functions in the meeting might not be happening.&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes its hard to get things officiated when there are not a ton of members present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Freddy asked about the binder and applications:&lt;br /&gt;
    Matt mentioned - There is a binder; usually by the front door (there are applications also on the wiki) - so if you want to become a philantropist - you need to have a member sign off on you and bring it to a meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
There are more details on the wiki if you want to read more about it. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Announcements ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Freddy wants to start a SQL class for anyone interested - lots of people are interested in data and wants to share his knowledge&lt;br /&gt;
* Charlie - the camera was not working in the front. They helped set it up - if the camera stops, try jiggling the cable (or re-connecting it) - it can get loose.&lt;br /&gt;
* Matt - Its not noise bridge releated - but afterhours at the exploriorium this week (Thursday) has a bike related thing going on and has FREE bike valet parking (but is $20, or 45$ for a year of After Dark)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ben is helping others learn about Wikipedia and Wikimedia; its at the Wikimedia Foundation ( Look up &amp;quot;bay area wiki salon&amp;quot;) - its at 6:00 PM - RSVP if possible (on the wikipedia event page)&lt;br /&gt;
* Pinard(sp?) teaches blockchain things and has an event coming up tomorrow (Wednesday) - come to learn about smart contracts and deploying them on blockchain - what about creating a noisebridge coin? There is one, but we could always have another! There is a lot of potential for fundraising.&lt;br /&gt;
* Izzy - participates in C / C++ communities - there is a deadline in Colonge for features in C++20-something - She has written 17 papers in very few hours!! Maybe there is a small function that should be part of the standard library - C++ is easier than C but reach out to Izzy if you&amp;#039;re interested in doing that / learning.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael - (who did the visuals at the gala) - has a bunch of videos on the poliwat youtube channel - he is organizing a show - if you&amp;#039;re interested in doing a show/music - in the near future (this month)&lt;br /&gt;
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Discussion topics:&lt;br /&gt;
    - gala update (riley) - we net $3000 after expenses - there are details on discuss&lt;br /&gt;
    ryan menttions a probelem:&lt;br /&gt;
a lot of people were distracted during the auction&lt;br /&gt;
e.g. VR is pretty distracting and didn&amp;#039;t help the auction per se&lt;br /&gt;
Next time - lets try to keep people more focused somehow?&lt;br /&gt;
We didn&amp;#039;t have high level unique investors - we&amp;#039;re hoping to find people who can really help noisebridge out financially&lt;br /&gt;
A lot of the bids were from other people at noisebridge; where our rich snobs/VC/philanthropic people at !? We need you!&lt;br /&gt;
Freddy asks about donatation box by the VR station (just a thought)&lt;br /&gt;
That can be problematic because people thing they&amp;#039;re dontating to a VR thing but it might be more needed for the space in general&lt;br /&gt;
Charlie: the gala vibe was a party-esque thing but maybe we can ask for more general donations&lt;br /&gt;
It wasn&amp;#039;t incredibly focused on fundrasing - but maybe that is ok that isn&amp;#039;t sterotypical?&lt;br /&gt;
Overall, Ryan mentions it didn&amp;#039;t feel all the way right&lt;br /&gt;
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Ben was asking about what has been done in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
Matt mentions a group that does some of the fundraising together (which includes Ryan)&lt;br /&gt;
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RAISE BILLIONS BABY&lt;br /&gt;
- New space (real estate)&lt;br /&gt;
    Lease runs out in august&lt;br /&gt;
-New Home! (narrowed down to the top two)&lt;br /&gt;
2021 Folsom (~$8k :: 4,500 sqft)&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&amp;amp;v=VCj-m4kaA9Q&lt;br /&gt;
potentially less w/ tennant improvements.&lt;br /&gt;
668 Guerrero (~$10k :: 7,200 sqft)&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7KKSp1VG-g&lt;br /&gt;
owner looking to sell eventually, so maybe lease to buy.&lt;br /&gt;
A bunch of other options with details and media on discuss https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/all-the-listing-go-watch-the-videos/671.&lt;br /&gt;
would like members to be attending weekly meetings. have more of a plan,&lt;br /&gt;
Copy on website needs update. (Front page. &amp;quot;.. next year&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
- makerfaire&lt;br /&gt;
  - NB has booth for sure, at least 10x20 ft, corner spot.&lt;br /&gt;
  - Projects going are: ordibooth, flaschentaschen, vr cart, other thing maybe led table, need volunteers!!! &lt;br /&gt;
  - May 17-19 https://makerfaire.com/bay-area/&lt;br /&gt;
Need to move four projects: ngalac, ordibooth, flaschentaschen, vr booth (no need to move computer, can run from ryans laptop)&lt;br /&gt;
Help out days: tuesday (pack noisebridge), wednesday (set up @ maker faire), &lt;br /&gt;
Can get a full pass if help out for at least 6 hrs&lt;br /&gt;
Can help out on ngalac on fridays (9pm)&lt;br /&gt;
Can help out on ordibooth any day until makers fair&lt;br /&gt;
Need help to improve UI for flaschentaschen&lt;br /&gt;
Volunteer signup: nb vr  https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/maker-faire-2019-volunteer-sign-ups/535&lt;br /&gt;
need 10 people per day (at least 8, 10-12 is better)&lt;br /&gt;
each sub-booth needs to be staffed for the entire day&lt;br /&gt;
please list ALL of the available hours you can help out (not just the ones you want to work)&lt;br /&gt;
Best place to get involved: look on discuss.noisebridge.info, come to maker meetings, talk to ryan personally&lt;br /&gt;
Can be a great fundraising opportunity and good to spread out the word for nb needing a new house soon&lt;br /&gt;
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  Ryan mentioned something about makerfair&lt;br /&gt;
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- elevator stuff&lt;br /&gt;
Old style elevator, literally build in 1920s, breaks a lot. Parts seem not be sold anymore. (Discussion on making this piece ourselves, but landlord may take care of it)&lt;br /&gt;
Elevator people are waiting for a roller-piece-thing&lt;br /&gt;
Three doors we are not in charge of, one of those broke (first floor far back side)&lt;br /&gt;
Need the elevator to move ngalac&lt;br /&gt;
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- Financial reporting - matt wants to help&lt;br /&gt;
Talk to tyler to get access to financial data,  &lt;br /&gt;
Paypal, Stripe, Patreon (have APIs)&lt;br /&gt;
Banks 20 years behind, hard to get automated &lt;br /&gt;
Benivoty (outaded too)&lt;br /&gt;
Idea for creating funds to donate to&lt;br /&gt;
noisetor costs a lot, hard to really see revenue it brings in.&lt;br /&gt;
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- bringing down barriers to participating at noisebrdige&lt;br /&gt;
- tyler, intro page with basic info, like with link to discuss, and How to NB&lt;br /&gt;
- Makerfaire a great oportunity to bring in new people.&lt;br /&gt;
- Updating the wiki, &lt;br /&gt;
- How to edit, &lt;br /&gt;
- wiki guild was discussed, Ryan has a lot of info on stuff that needs to be updated that he knows of.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wiki needs updates&lt;br /&gt;
broken links, out of date meetings/shops, front page for .net needs to be fixed (move out august of &amp;quot;next year&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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New Home! (narrowed down to the top two)&lt;br /&gt;
2021 Folsom (~$8k :: 4,500 sqft)&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&amp;amp;v=VCj-m4kaA9Q&lt;br /&gt;
668 Guerrero (~$10k :: 7,200 sqft)&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7KKSp1VG-g&lt;br /&gt;
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FYI: Noisebridge.net front page needs minor correction. Says, &amp;quot;We plan to leave our current location by August of next year.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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