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	* Jean-Jacques - professional handy man interested Solar Electric / printing		* Jean-Jacques - professional handy man interested Solar Electric / printing
	* Dawn - Software Engineer, first time in the space.		* Dawn - Software Engineer, first time in the space.
	* ~~Toms~~ - first meeting, programmer in the past		* Tom - first meeting, programmer in the past
	* Torrie - hack of all trades		* Torrie - hack of all trades
	* Ron - front end web development first meeting		* Ron - front end web development first meeting

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	* The name of the applicant, the week of their application, and their sponsors.

	Daniel Lewis - week 1 / no sponsors / not present		Daniel Lewis - week 1 / no sponsors / not present

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	Daniel Lewis - no sponsors not present		Daniel Lewis - week 1 / no sponsors / not present
	~~Tristram~~ Mosley - week 3 no sponsors not present
			Tristan Mosley - week 3 / no sponsors / not present

	'''Jarrod Hicks''' - has 2 sponsors and 4 weeks		'''Jarrod Hicks''' - has 2 sponsors and 4 weeks

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	= Short announcements and events =		= Short announcements and events =
	* ~~Bullet point list of announcements and events~~		* Naomi - The Great Reboot Party — this Friday, August 15th event!
	Naomi - The Great Reboot Party — this Friday, August 15th event!		* Matt - we need help on the floors all this week.
	Matt - we need help on the floors all this week.		* Naomi - movie screening (Die [Gstettensaga]) was supposed to be July 26th — end of the month?
	Naomi - movie screening (Die [Gstettensaga]) was supposed to be July 26th — end of the month?		* Naomi - [we are still fundraising!] Donations welcome.
	Naomi - we are still fundraising! Donations welcome.

	'''What is Consensus?'''		'''What is Consensus?'''

	Matt - consensus is alternative to majority votes. Point of consensus — not to change action but to give information. The member has a "last ditch" option to block — if they could "never live" with the consensus item. Close to "walking out the door".		Matt: consensus is alternative to majority votes.

			Point of consensus — not to change action but to give information. The member has a "last ditch" option to block — if they could "never live" with the consensus item. Close to "walking out the door".

	= [[ Membership Binder ]] =		= [[ Membership Binder ]] =

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These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 321st Meeting of Noisebridge].

Note-taker: Andy MC; Moderator: Naomi.

* '''Jarrod is now a Member'''

= Attendance =
* Andy - likes working and supporting Noisebridge
* Jay - tinker breaker and has truck
* Chris - 1st meeting hacker
* Matt - is #reboot ready
* Steve - physician musician
* Scott - 1st time here, local high school teacher (hardware prototype)
* Carlos - I like noisebridge
* Patrick - wants to make physical things
* Jean-Jacques - professional handy man interested Solar Electric / printing
* Dawn - Software Engineer, first time in the space.
* Toms - first meeting, programmer in the past
* Torrie - hack of all trades
* Ron - front end web development first meeting
* Bill - volunteered when moving into NB in 2009
* Kevin - painter of white walls — neural hacking wednesday night !
* Henner - software by day hacks hardware by night (access control)
* Naomi - member since Aug 2009, trying to just work on ONE THING (the payphones + PBX)

= Short announcements and events =
* Bullet point list of announcements and events
Naomi - The Great Reboot Party — this Friday, August 15th event!
Matt - we need help on the floors all this week.
Naomi - movie screening (Die [Gstettensaga]) was supposed to be July 26th — end of the month?
Naomi - we are still fundraising! Donations welcome.

'''What is Consensus?'''

Matt - consensus is alternative to majority votes. Point of consensus — not to change action but to give information. The member has a "last ditch" option to block — if they could "never live" with the consensus item. Close to "walking out the door".

= [[ Membership Binder ]] =
* The name of the applicant, the week of their application, and their sponsors.

Daniel Lewis - no sponsors not present
Tristram Mosley - week 3 no sponsors not present

'''Jarrod Hicks''' - has 2 sponsors and 4 weeks
* Q from matt “what do you define as excellent? “
* A "seeing the results of what I envisioned actually come to light”
* Q from Torrie "why so long to become a member ?”
* A mostly putting myself on the list because encouraged by other members.
* Q from Naomi "what do you see as the proper way to express disagreement in a consensus proposal"
* A "would take it up with the proposer directly”
* Jay —> “he did not want to be a full fledged member for such a long time”
* “he is really patient, especially with people who are not as emotionally intelligent”

'''Consensus passed''', overwhelming support and gratitude from community members and non-members.

= Financial Report =
* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):`

Danny is busy filing our taxes (due August 15th — go John Shutt, acquire the Treasuring cooties!)

= Consensus items =

== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==

=== Reciprocal Banning with Sudo Room ===

Proposal: "If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is immediately and automatically banned from Noisebridge."

* Torrie described Sudo room situation about very bad safety - stalking situation
* Naomi: "For reasons of safety"... must define
* Matt : safety
* Andy : what is "principled objection” vs “personality difference”
* Kevin: sounds great bridge to build — improve both of our filters — proxy block from Cory
* Matt : Feeling good about “reciprocal” … needs to be specific for what the banning is for
* Naomi: reviewing sudo room's problems
* Matt : get this defined internally?
* Carl: I’m concerned about automatic banning. Possibly temporary banning, need some sort of review.
* Torrie : Not a permanent final ban. The ban could be undone through a consensus item.
* Matt : need to distinguish Sexual harassment / Stalking / Safety
* Carl : procedurally, we can review the ban on a case by case basis
* Matt : we need to understand their parameters for banning ( Sudo Room)
* Torrie : sudo room “follows the rules until they dont make sense” .. sudo room is evolution
* Matt : safe space security working group is encouraged to handle bans
* Naomi: we probably need to develop this in more detail, I don't see a consensus forming here.
* Matt : violence, sexual, harassment are obvious ban

== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==

Proposal: "If the Sudo Room hackerspace in Oakland bans a person from their space for reasons of safety, that person is immediately and automatically banned from Noisebridge."

= Discussion Notes =

== potential CCC members have 6 month waiting period ==

Andy and Matt: CCC disallows even the application for membership until 6 months have passed.

Naomi: I'm for this. Members have the ability to block consensus which is really disruptive when abused. NB has done a poor job bringing people into a real Consensus process; misunderstanding the "block" is a huge part of that.

Henner: "At some point when not enough people know each other, things can degenerate”

Jay: Community trust . . . takes time. In support of 6 months (or more) to build trust.

?: Having lived in a coop … support the sentiment

Jean Jacques: it takes time to form community ties, understanding (voiced support)

Torri: Speaking about cultural preservation

Carl: we have already 4 weeks, should it be longer?

Naomi: is there a growing body of people who recognize this person after 6 months? (consensus)

Torri: again voiced support — inverts the power dynamic in a good way.

Matt: hand in application, disappear 6 months, then return? No.

What does CCC expect from their members ?

Matt: cost benefit analysis — is this person a net positive for the community ?

Tom: some way to track contributions? (Certificates ?)

Jay: (direct response) — you don't need to be asked. People wont even have to ask — it will be visible.

Henner: 6 months … so many times after 3 weeks we review the member binder and that person isn’t here.

Naomi: names in the binder should be familiar to everyone before the vote, people should actually know your name.

Bill: pictures in the book?

Torrie: (direct response) shouldn’t be necessary.

Naomi: the “soft c” consensus sounds like we shouldn’t push people to become members right away.

Patrick: what about associate members?

Naomi: there's no clear community understanding of associate membership

Torrie: the power vacuums might entice certain people … we can spot them by eager associate membership grabbing

Andy: (direct response) like a spam detection system? (Torrie nods)

Jade: nothing stopping non-members from donating

Andy: (direct response) in support of Jade’s comment

Carl: I like the idea of 3 months … people can come and demonstrate that they are a good fit for the community. It depends on the individual and how.

Scott: Stay with 6 months. Why not a year? When you know people in the community, your voice is heard whether you vote or not.

Kevin: 3 months? 6 months? X days. Starting when?

Naomi: (direct response) when reading the binder, everyone should know who member applicants are.

Kevin: (direct response) excellent as a concept.

Torrie: its more of a cultural thing than a hard and fast rule.

Scott: a lot of people should know that person. “Long enough”

Matt: the only objection we need some sort of signal that someone actually wants membership. WIKI page is start date?

=== Scott from HackAway ===

Scott: possibility of high school classes next week? (HACKAWAY)

middle school and high school students

chrome books on linux

bring equipment

15 week course one hour a week

pay what you can model

encourage all $$ incomes to participate

Time: 4:00-5:30

No more than 12 students

@matt: what ages, and who is responsible
* (direct response) middle school ages 10-18 I (scott) would be responsible
* insurance up to a million dollars
* also has parent-signed waivers

Tom: do they have to be enrolled in middle school?
Scott: (direct response) age group 10-14, generally inclusive

=== Random Extra Items ===

Torri: cleaning the floor tomorrow night ! Help wanted.

Jean Jacques: joe black

Matt: (direct response) not for this meeting (other working group)

Torri: 3D printer working … pieces and parts

Naomi: (direct response) Purchased some 3D printer replacement parts

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