Meeting Notes 2012 07 31 - Revision history

151.100.179.71: /* Proposals from last week */ link to prior discussions

2016-10-18T08:25:15Z

Proposals from last week: link to prior discussions

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	=== Proposals from last week ===		=== Proposals from last week ===
	''(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''		''(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

			====Thiel Money====
			:''[[Grants/tf2012\|Text of agreement]]. Previously discussed at meetings on [[Meeting Notes 2012 06 26\|June 26]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 03\|July 3]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 10\|July 10]], [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 17\|July 17]], and [[Meeting Notes 2012 07 24\|July 24]].

	Malaclyps: I would be worried if we spent 10K on party + sent someone to Singapore (like last time), I would feel guilty because I work w/ foundation. So this 10 grand will go to our prudent reserve. So I wouldn't want to spend it on specific projects, just two months' rent. The other objection that had been cited was that the Thiel foundation connected to Peter Thiel, and Peter Thiel connected to Palantir, which datamines for the state.		Malaclyps: I would be worried if we spent 10K on party + sent someone to Singapore (like last time), I would feel guilty because I work w/ foundation. So this 10 grand will go to our prudent reserve. So I wouldn't want to spend it on specific projects, just two months' rent. The other objection that had been cited was that the Thiel foundation connected to Peter Thiel, and Peter Thiel connected to Palantir, which datamines for the state.

JeffreyATW: Reverted edits by JohnyRadio (talk) to last revision by 199.188.193.145

2014-05-06T01:13:37Z

Reverted edits by JohnyRadio (talk) to last revision by 199.188.193.145

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	[[:Category:Meeting Notes\|The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]]		[[:Category:Meeting Notes\|The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]]

JohnyRadio at 00:15, 6 May 2014

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	[[:Category:Meeting Notes\|The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]]		[[:Category:Meeting Notes\|The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]]

199.188.193.145: were you at the meeting (I wasn't, but this seems legit) and are you saying this guy wasn't there, mr vinyl?

2012-08-18T09:24:36Z

were you at the meeting (I wasn't, but this seems legit) and are you saying this guy wasn't there, mr vinyl?

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	* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.		* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.
	* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.		* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.
			* Ryan -- lives in the mission. Startups. Crypto-Anarchy. I Pseudonymous reputation. Secure encrypted cloud backends. Bitcoin.

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	* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.		* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
	[[Category:Meeting Notes]]		[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
			[[Category:Pages with a Noisebridge Tiny URL]]

Eric Vinyl: uh, Can you do this? If he were here, wouldn't it have been recorded? Also, nburl points to piratepad

2012-08-17T22:54:39Z

uh, Can you do this? If he were here, wouldn't it have been recorded? Also, nburl points to piratepad

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	* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.		* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.
	* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.		* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.
	* Ryan -- lives in the mission. Startups. Crypto-Anarchy. I Pseudonymous reputation. Secure encrypted cloud backends. Bitcoin.

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	[[Category:Meeting Notes]]		[[Category:Meeting Notes]]
	~~[[Category:Pages with a Noisebridge Tiny URL]]~~

24.5.81.139: /* Introduction and Names */

2012-08-17T18:52:07Z

Introduction and Names

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	* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.		* Bruno -- from Vienna, doing startup with seven other people. Wants to talking about delegated voting.
	* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.		* Evan -- says don't use ArchLinux, whatever you do. A CONTENTIOUS POINT OF DISCUSSION.
			* Ryan -- lives in the mission. Startups. Crypto-Anarchy. I Pseudonymous reputation. Secure encrypted cloud backends. Bitcoin.

	== Short Announcements ==		== Short Announcements ==

Eric Vinyl at 00:02, 8 August 2012

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	= Agenda =		= Agenda =
	[~~https~~:~~//www.noisebridge.net/wiki/~~Category:~~Meeting_Notes~~ The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]		[[:Category:Meeting Notes\|The 227th Meeting of Noisebridge]]

	Note-taker: [[User:Malaclyps\|Danny]] and the hordes on the etherpad		Note-taker: [[User:Malaclyps\|Danny]] and the hordes on the etherpad

Eric Vinyl: nburl

2012-08-08T00:01:50Z

nburl

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	Malaclyps: Heard last meeting that it was a sort of money-laundering tax dodge; this isn't how tax dodges work, he doesn't pay any less tax.		Malaclyps: Heard last meeting that it was a sort of money-laundering tax dodge; this isn't how tax dodges work, he doesn't pay any less tax.

	Leif: A charitable foundation is very much a tax shelter; that may be pejorative, it is legal, but it's true. He's a wealthy libertarian. All billionaries have nonprofits and it's not because they're all really nice people. The rule is they have to spend 5% of total ~~vlalue~~ and don't pay taxes on profit from investments so he can give away and invest in for-profit enterprises.		Leif: A charitable foundation is very much a tax shelter; that may be pejorative, it is legal, but it's true. He's a wealthy libertarian. All billionaries have nonprofits and it's not because they're all really nice people. The rule is they have to spend 5% of total value and don't pay taxes on profit from investments so he can give away and invest in for-profit enterprises.

	Eric: It doesn't actually work that way. For instance if I'm a 501(c)3 and you decide you're going to invest in a non-profit, there is intense shit you have to go through with the board. No, he doesn't pay taxes, but it's not really his money anymore, the board controls it, even if he gets a director's salary.<br> What Leif says, on multigenerational level, has merit but in single generation doesn't work that way.		Eric: It doesn't actually work that way. For instance if I'm a 501(c)3 and you decide you're going to invest in a non-profit, there is intense shit you have to go through with the board. No, he doesn't pay taxes, but it's not really his money anymore, the board controls it, even if he gets a director's salary.<br> What Leif says, on multigenerational level, has merit but in single generation doesn't work that way.
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Eric Vinyl at 14:03, 1 August 2012

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	Malaclyps: Proposes putting up for consensus.		Malaclyps: Proposes putting up for consensus.

	Carlos ~~asks~~ what Leif would do if it passed consensus.		Carlos: Asks what Leif would do if it passed consensus.

	Leif: Would not block, but would stop paying Noisebridge dues for 1 year. Will probably spend his personal surplus on nb projects		Leif: Would not block, but would stop paying Noisebridge dues for 1 year. Will probably spend his personal surplus on nb projects

	~~Zephyr~~: Proposals for next week...		Moderator: Proposals for next week...

	Malaclyps: No, no, no! Consensus! You need to do the magic words.		Malaclyps: No, no, no! Consensus! You need to do the magic words.
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	Malaclyps: Trying to find wording that makes us feel better about taking the money. Worried Leif + Carlos aren't happy.		Malaclyps: Trying to find wording that makes us feel better about taking the money. Worried Leif + Carlos aren't happy.

	Carlos: Agrees with Leif.		Carlos: Agrees with Leif.

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	Eric: It doesn't actually work that way. For instance if I'm a 501(c)3 and you decide you're going to invest in a non-profit, there is intense shit you have to go through with the board. No, he doesn't pay taxes, but it's not really his money anymore, the board controls it, even if he gets a director's salary.<br> What Leif says, on multigenerational level, has merit but in single generation doesn't work that way.		Eric: It doesn't actually work that way. For instance if I'm a 501(c)3 and you decide you're going to invest in a non-profit, there is intense shit you have to go through with the board. No, he doesn't pay taxes, but it's not really his money anymore, the board controls it, even if he gets a director's salary.<br> What Leif says, on multigenerational level, has merit but in single generation doesn't work that way.

	~~Zephyr~~: Have we arrived at any new conclusions about our stance?		Moderator: Have we arrived at any new conclusions about our stance?

	Carlos: Nothing against ... but believes Noisebridge can really succeed independently.		Carlos: Nothing against ... but believes Noisebridge can really succeed independently.

Eric Vinyl at 14:00, 1 August 2012

2012-08-01T14:00:32Z

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