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	Funds in bank: $~~216?~~.??		Funds in bank: $21,623.58
	Paypal has eased up a bit ~~and says something is~~ now ~~ok. We can withdraw more than $500~~ without ~~a ss~~# ~~now have EIN~~. ~~yay~~
			Paypal has eased up a bit. NB now has EIN without SS#. Things will proceed.

	=== Membership Binder ===		=== Membership Binder ===

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	Josh is now a member. Beer provided was Corona and limes were also ~~provided~~.		Josh is now a member. Beer provided was Corona and limes were also supplied.

	=== Consensus items ===		=== Consensus items ===

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	Funds in bank: $216?.??		Funds in bank: $216?.??
	Paypal has eased up a bit and says something is now ok. We can withdraw more than 500 without a ss # now have EIN. yay		Paypal has eased up a bit and says something is now ok. We can withdraw more than $500 without a ss# now have EIN. yay

	=== Membership Binder ===		=== Membership Binder ===

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	* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the ~~convenient solution where no~~ work ~~actually needs~~ to ~~be done and if you~~ want to ~~see~~ the ~~results of trading~~ a ~~little bit~~ of ~~convenience~~ for ~~undesired work open your eyes in~~ the ~~morning~~. Consensus ~~is your job and you should~~ be ~~eternally grateful you have it~~ /soapbox.		* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is a system where individuals do not invest the work required for consensus. Rather than invest said (sometimes boring) work someone is appointed to do the work instead. The end result being the people who did not want to invest in the (sometimes boring) work do not have their interests represented and sacrifice a disproportionately large section of whatever was up for consensus. If you think it's a drudge consider the alternatives. Representative Consensus PoC ended, will not be implemented, inherently flawed. /soapbox

	=== Short Announcements ===		=== Short Announcements ===

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Introduction and Names

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	* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the convenient solution where no work actually needs to be done and if you want to see the results of trading a little bit of work ~~for convenience~~ open your eyes in the morning. Consensus is your job and you should be eternally grateful you have it /soapbox.		* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the convenient solution where no work actually needs to be done and if you want to see the results of trading a little bit of convenience for undesired work open your eyes in the morning. Consensus is your job and you should be eternally grateful you have it /soapbox.

	=== Short Announcements ===		=== Short Announcements ===

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	Michael Monarchy: I thought that i was b=going tone left behind w computers… woodwork n sewing. Can donate and knowledge transfers week 1 no sponsors yet		Michael Monarchy: I thought that i was b=going tone left behind w computers… woodwork n sewing. Can donate and knowledge transfers week 1 no sponsors yet

	Josh J: Concerned about software n hardware quality/freedom n civil rights and justice, great sponsor Leif NB is purest form of these ideals		Josh J: Concerned about software n hardware quality/freedom n civil rights and justice, great sponsor Leif NB is purest form of these ideals

	Michael M: hacking is way of life and love contributing week4 2 sponsors ready		Michael M: hacking is way of life and love contributing week4 2 sponsors ready

	Brian K; NB is tight 1. sponsor week 3		Brian K; NB is tight 1. sponsor week 3

	Erica L: here all times and likes contributing 2 sponsors week 3		Erica L: here all times and likes contributing 2 sponsors week 3

	Ada: NB is awesome. Doer 2 sponsor Joghen and k week 4		Ada: NB is awesome. Doer 2 sponsor Joghen and k week 4

	Max W: NB is the shiet 2 sponsor week 4		Max W: NB is the shiet 2 sponsor week 4

	Jeff S: stuck in 2011 world without time machine: wants to build way back. 1 sponsor week 4		Jeff S: stuck in 2011 world without time machine: wants to build way back. 1 sponsor week 4

	Katlyn M: Graphics technology and games n media week 1		Katlyn M: Graphics technology and games n media week 1

	Stephen B : NB is best hackerpsace in bay area starting a company collaboration 2 sponsor week 4		Stephen B : NB is best hackerpsace in bay area starting a company collaboration 2 sponsor week 4
	Josh: joined EFF and shirt is in the mail; mac relics, writes software, works on projects that… most of the things i work on will be used by nobody or lead great change. Mac relics is posix layer on system calls so take untrusted 16k code and only have access to… lost track, 64 k emulator, taking new perspective on emulator that does not boot mac os into window in current environment rather emulate ac toolbox calls so app will be at same level as mac native apps (like Wine but… ) furthet off io future curious about running untrusted 4th party code. Ex… 4th party is ad layer. What if age auth does not trust adverts on page? How to implement… since already using 16k … pay cost of emulation once the virtualsation.. design principle of unix is hierarchy.
			Josh: joined EFF and shirt is in the mail; mac relics, writes software, works on projects that… most of the things i work on will be
			used by nobody or lead great change. Mac relics is posix layer on system calls so take untrusted 16k code and only have access to… lost track, 64 k emulator, taking new perspective on emulator that does not boot mac os into window in current environment rather emulate ac toolbox calls so app will be at same level as mac native apps (like Wine but… ) furthet off io future curious about running untrusted 4th party code. Ex… 4th party is ad layer. What if age auth does not trust adverts on page? How to implement… since already using 16k … pay cost of emulation once the virtualsation.. design principle of unix is hierarchy.
	No silver bullet on social contracts. The people who implement the system are key to the system. Would block consensus IF item under consideration was detrimental to community. (does that warrant blocking consensus)		No silver bullet on social contracts. The people who implement the system are key to the system. Would block consensus IF item under consideration was detrimental to community. (does that warrant blocking consensus)
	Appreciates value of reality check but blocking… a block means something requires further discussion or		Appreciates value of reality check but blocking… a block means something requires further discussion or

	discussion…		discussion…

	discussion….		discussion….

	money….		money….

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Introduction and Names

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	* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."		* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
	* Round of introductions:		* Round of introductions:

	Danny: moderating, hacks and leads social engineering group		Danny: moderating, hacks and leads social engineering group

	Marko: from Toronto, wants to		Marko: from Toronto, wants to

	Anonymous: expect me		Anonymous: expect me

	Josh: hack on software ethernet, arduino on door		Josh: hack on software ethernet, arduino on door

	Nick: makes web games, plays on servers		Nick: makes web games, plays on servers

	Rummmrm pizza		Rummmrm pizza

	Erica: Pretends to be working		Erica: Pretends to be working

	Jesse: member of biocurious		Jesse: member of biocurious

	Justin: random stuff hive76 philly		Justin: random stuff hive76 philly

	Rayce: moves everything quickly		Rayce: moves everything quickly

	Zephyr:		Zephyr:

	Andrew: Hacks on things and sometimes gets burned by things		Andrew: Hacks on things and sometimes gets burned by things

	Ramone:		Ramone:

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Introduction and Names

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	* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."		* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
	* Round of introductions:		* Round of introductions:
	1. Danny: moderating, hacks and leads social engineering group		Danny: moderating, hacks and leads social engineering group
	2. Marko: from Toronto, wants to		Marko: from Toronto, wants to
	3. Anonymous: expect me		Anonymous: expect me
	4. Josh: hack on software ethernet, arduino on door		Josh: hack on software ethernet, arduino on door
	5. Nick: makes web games, plays on servers		Nick: makes web games, plays on servers
	6. Rummmrm pizza		Rummmrm pizza
	7. Erica: Pretends to be working		Erica: Pretends to be working
	8. Jesse: member of biocurious		Jesse: member of biocurious
	9. Justin: random stuff hive76 philly		Justin: random stuff hive76 philly
	~~10.~~ Rayce: moves everything quickly		Rayce: moves everything quickly
	~~11.~~ Zephyr:		Zephyr:
	~~12.~~ Andrew: Hacks on things and sometimes gets burned by things		Andrew: Hacks on things and sometimes gets burned by things
	~~13.~~ Ramone:		Ramone:

	* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the convenient solution where no work actually needs to be done and if you want to see the results of trading a little bit of work for convenience open your eyes in the morning. Consensus is your job and you should be eternally grateful you have it /soapbox.		* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the convenient solution where no work actually needs to be done and if you want to see the results of trading a little bit of work for convenience open your eyes in the morning. Consensus is your job and you should be eternally grateful you have it /soapbox.

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	[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 191st Meeting of Noisebridge]		[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 191st Meeting of Noisebridge]

	Note-taker: ~~FIXME YOUR NAME HERE~~		Note-taker: Ben

	Moderator: ~~FIXME THEIR NAME HERE~~		Moderator: Danny


	=== Introduction and Names ===		=== Introduction and Names ===
	* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."		* [[Noisebridge_Vision\|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
	* Round of introductions: ~~What's your name~~, ~~what do you do~~, ~~and if you are new~~, ~~how did you hear about Noisebridge? Start with the moderator~~ and ~~go left~~.		* Round of introductions:
	* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: ~~We agree~~ and so should you~~! Only paid-up members can block consensus~~.		1. Danny: moderating, hacks and leads social engineering group
			2. Marko: from Toronto, wants to
			3. Anonymous: expect me
			4. Josh: hack on software ethernet, arduino on door
			5. Nick: makes web games, plays on servers
			6. Rummmrm pizza
			7. Erica: Pretends to be working
			8. Jesse: member of biocurious
			9. Justin: random stuff hive76 philly
			10. Rayce: moves everything quickly
			11. Zephyr:
			12. Andrew: Hacks on things and sometimes gets burned by things
			13. Ramone:

			* [[Consensus Process\|A brief primer on consensus process]]: Consensus is a process for proposals where any concerns about the proposals are examined by the group and adjusted until the group agrees on the proposal. It is the note-taker's opinion that the contrast to consensus is the convenient solution where no work actually needs to be done and if you want to see the results of trading a little bit of work for convenience open your eyes in the morning. Consensus is your job and you should be eternally grateful you have it /soapbox.

	=== Short Announcements ===		=== Short Announcements ===

	~~Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!~~		Rayce has converted the refrigerator into a giant whiteboard. Go and bask in the food prep area at the fruits of labors.

	=== New or Stale Events ===		=== New or Stale Events ===

	~~Is there anything new happening~~ at ~~the space?~~		Replicator Wednesdays is at Hacker Dojo this week.
	~~Is there anything that has stopped happening at the space?~~

	=== Financial Report ===		=== Financial Report ===
	Funds in bank:		Funds in bank: $216?.??
			Paypal has eased up a bit and says something is now ok. We can withdraw more than 500 without a ss # now have EIN. yay

			=== Membership Binder ===
			Michael Monarchy: I thought that i was b=going tone left behind w computers… woodwork n sewing. Can donate and knowledge transfers week 1 no sponsors yet
			Josh J: Concerned about software n hardware quality/freedom n civil rights and justice, great sponsor Leif NB is purest form of these ideals
			Michael M: hacking is way of life and love contributing week4 2 sponsors ready
			Brian K; NB is tight 1. sponsor week 3
			Erica L: here all times and likes contributing 2 sponsors week 3
			Ada: NB is awesome. Doer 2 sponsor Joghen and k week 4
			Max W: NB is the shiet 2 sponsor week 4
			Jeff S: stuck in 2011 world without time machine: wants to build way back. 1 sponsor week 4
			Katlyn M: Graphics technology and games n media week 1
			Stephen B : NB is best hackerpsace in bay area starting a company collaboration 2 sponsor week 4
			Josh: joined EFF and shirt is in the mail; mac relics, writes software, works on projects that… most of the things i work on will be used by nobody or lead great change. Mac relics is posix layer on system calls so take untrusted 16k code and only have access to… lost track, 64 k emulator, taking new perspective on emulator that does not boot mac os into window in current environment rather emulate ac toolbox calls so app will be at same level as mac native apps (like Wine but… ) furthet off io future curious about running untrusted 4th party code. Ex… 4th party is ad layer. What if age auth does not trust adverts on page? How to implement… since already using 16k … pay cost of emulation once the virtualsation.. design principle of unix is hierarchy.
			No silver bullet on social contracts. The people who implement the system are key to the system. Would block consensus IF item under consideration was detrimental to community. (does that warrant blocking consensus)
			Appreciates value of reality check but blocking… a block means something requires further discussion or
			discussion…
			discussion….
			money….

	~~=== Membership Binder ===~~		Josh is now a member. Beer provided was Corona and limes were also provided.
	* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a ~~check on every open application~~.
	* Anyone up for joining this week (ie have four checks by their name + have two sponsors) should introduce themselves then leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and ~~a lime) for the rest of the group. The rest of the meeting should consense on whether they may join~~.

	=== Consensus items ===		=== Consensus items ===
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	=== Discussion Items ===		=== Discussion Items ===

			President is up for election:
			Discussion about previous selection processes.
			Next president should be MC Hawking: Michael Charlie Hawking is nominated
			Election postponed to after 12.01.01?

	=== End of Meeting ===		=== End of Meeting ===

Secretaribot: Secretaribot says its time for the 191st Noisebridge notes

2011-12-07T08:10:13Z

Secretaribot says its time for the 191st Noisebridge notes

New page

== HOWTO run a meeting. ==

Pick a moderator, and a note-taker. The note-taker should:

* write notes in this page, put them back up online when they're done,
* edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is decided to be up for consensus next week (stuff raised for consensus this week should be publicised for a final decision next week)
* edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was consensed or failed to consense this week.
* tell treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members.

Moderator should:
* make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
* speak minimally themselves
* keep the meeting moving! you're in charge of summarising the consensus, and/or suggesting things that need to be done!
* get the membership binders and ensure they are returned to the black desk

== Agenda ==

[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 191st Meeting of Noisebridge]

Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE

Moderator: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE

=== Introduction and Names ===
* [[Noisebridge_Vision|What Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* Round of introductions: What's your name, what do you do, and if you are new, how did you hear about Noisebridge? Start with the moderator and go left.
* [[Consensus Process|A brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.

=== Short Announcements ===

Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!

=== New or Stale Events ===

Is there anything new happening at the space?
Is there anything that has stopped happening at the space?

=== Financial Report ===
Funds in bank:

=== Membership Binder ===
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a check on every open application.
* Anyone up for joining this week (ie have four checks by their name + have two sponsors) should introduce themselves then leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime) for the rest of the group. The rest of the meeting should consense on whether they may join.

=== Consensus items ===

''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

=== Discussion Items ===

=== End of Meeting ===
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
* Put back the membership binder in the black desk.
* Save the meeting notes to the wiki.
* Send a copy of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
* Copy the [[Meeting Notes Template]] for next week's agenda and update the main wiki page's link to it.
* Enjoy a cocktail with your fellow hacker or robot.

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]