Meeting Notes 2011 11 15 - Revision history

Malaclyps: /* Cleaners experiment */

2011-11-16T07:38:19Z

Cleaners experiment

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	Shannon says it seems cleaner.		Shannon says it seems cleaner.

	It is felt that we should put it up for consensus, this time for six months.		It is felt that we should put it up for consensus for a further period, this time for six months.

	Shannon asks can we get the mice to clean up? That works in fairy tales right?		Shannon asks can we get the mice to clean up? That works in fairy tales right?

Malaclyps: precise treasurers report

2011-11-16T07:35:11Z

precise treasurers report

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	lickle screen. Google Hangout crashes. We continue via a phone.		lickle screen. Google Hangout crashes. We continue via a phone.

	Kelly says it is the coolest thing ever. SHe gives a treasurer report. We've got our $20K buffer as usual.		Kelly says it is the coolest thing ever. SHe gives a treasurer report. We've got our $20K buffer as usual. (To be precise: $21,104.81. )

	==== Noisetor ====		==== Noisetor ====

Malaclyps: /* C Study Group? Talk to Jim = */

2011-11-16T06:39:12Z

C Study Group? Talk to Jim =

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	"Is Machine Learning still happening?" asks Kaya. Yes! Get in contact with Zephyr or Max to continue it on Monday. There is also the Stanford AI study group on Wednesdays: see https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/ml/2011-November/000700.html		"Is Machine Learning still happening?" asks Kaya. Yes! Get in contact with Zephyr or Max to continue it on Monday. There is also the Stanford AI study group on Wednesdays: see https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/ml/2011-November/000700.html

	==== C Study Group? Talk to Jim =====		==== C Study Group? Talk to Jim ====
	Josh says that the C study group isn't happening right now. Others disagree. Talk to Jim on nb-discuss if you'd like to know more.		Josh says that the C study group isn't happening right now. Others disagree. Talk to Jim on nb-discuss if you'd like to know more.

Malaclyps at 06:38, 16 November 2011

2011-11-16T06:38:41Z

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	=== New or Stale Events ===		=== New or Stale Events ===
			==== 5MOF ====

	[http://www.5mof.net/ 5MOF] is happening this week! Submit a talk.		[http://www.5mof.net/ 5MOF] is happening this week! Submit a talk.

			==== Yes we have Machine Learning ====
	"Is Machine Learning still happening?" asks Kaya. Yes! Get in contact with Zephyr or Max to continue it on Monday. There is also the Stanford AI study group on Wednesdays: see https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/ml/2011-November/000700.html		"Is Machine Learning still happening?" asks Kaya. Yes! Get in contact with Zephyr or Max to continue it on Monday. There is also the Stanford AI study group on Wednesdays: see https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/ml/2011-November/000700.html

			==== C Study Group? Talk to Jim =====
			Josh says that the C study group isn't happening right now. Others disagree. Talk to Jim on nb-discuss if you'd like to know more.

			==== Perl Study Class ====
			Kaya says there's new Perl class. NEW PERL. NEW CENTURY. Meets at 1PM every Sunday.
			https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/PerlStudy

			==== Replicator Wednesdays ====

			Replicator Wednesdays is going gangbusters!


	=== Financial Report ===		=== Financial Report ===

			==== Three Month Buffer A-OK ====
	Rubin says our treasurer is in DC. She is ferried into the meeting virtually on a tiny		Rubin says our treasurer is in DC. She is ferried into the meeting virtually on a tiny
	lickle screen. Google Hangout crashes. We continue via a phone.		lickle screen. Google Hangout crashes. We continue via a phone.
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	Kelly says it is the coolest thing ever. SHe gives a treasurer report. We've got our $20K buffer as usual.		Kelly says it is the coolest thing ever. SHe gives a treasurer report. We've got our $20K buffer as usual.

			==== Noisetor ====
	Shannon is from Noisetor, but he doesn't know		Shannon is from Noisetor, but he doesn't know
	how much money we make. Kelly says that Noisetor		how much money we make. Kelly says that Noisetor
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	have a 30 day reserve. Shannon is now yanked		have a 30 day reserve. Shannon is now yanked
	into the conspiracy to fix the finances.		into the conspiracy to fix the finances.

	~~Josh says that the C study group isn't happening right now.~~

	~~Kaya says there's new Perl class. NEW PERL. NEW CENTURY. Meets at 1PM every Sunday.~~
	~~https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/PerlStudy~~

	~~Replicator Wednesdays!~~

	~~Brewery is important too!~~

	=== Membership Binder ===		=== Membership Binder ===

Malaclyps: /* Short Announcements */

2011-11-16T06:36:01Z

Short Announcements

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	=== Short Announcements ===		=== Short Announcements ===

	~~Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short!~~		==== Ilya ====

	Ilya passed away. Liz noted that if anyone else is depressed and would like to talk, many others at Noisebridge have experience with this. Mitch and Danny are specifically happy to talk about their experiences and help.		[[Ilya Zhitomirskiy]] passed away. Liz noted that if anyone else is depressed and would like to talk, many others at Noisebridge have experience with this. Mitch and Danny are specifically happy to talk about their experiences and help.

	Josh wondered if we should have a way of [http://bluehackers.org/ depressed hackers] to work together. We decided to enter it into the notes to see if we can pull something together.		Josh wondered if we should have a way of [http://bluehackers.org/ depressed hackers] to work together. We decided to enter it into the notes to see if we can pull something together.

			==== Our Algorithmic Platform ====

	Zephyr says the "We are the 1%" algorithmic trading platform (see last meetin) is not doing so well. Talk to Zephyr, Alex or Rayc if you'd like to help and know math.		Zephyr says the "We are the 1%" algorithmic trading platform (see last meetin) is not doing so well. Talk to Zephyr, Alex or Rayc if you'd like to help and know math.

			==== A Bigger Lasercutter, and Other Lasercuttery Notices ====

	Andrew says that he's been doing a lot of stuff		Andrew says that he's been doing a lot of stuff

Malaclyps: /* Membership Binder */

2011-11-16T06:33:39Z

Membership Binder

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	=== Membership Binder ===		=== Membership Binder ===

			==== Kaya is a Member! ====
	The Consensus is Kaya is a member! Welcome, Kaya!		The Consensus is Kaya is a member! Welcome, Kaya!

Malaclyps: /* Discussion Items */

2011-11-16T06:33:11Z

Discussion Items

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	=== Discussion Items ===		=== Discussion Items ===

	~~Plan~~ to build out the classrooms + workshop.		==== Soundproofing classrooms and workshops ====

			Danny says there is a plan to build out the classrooms + workshop on Thanksgiving weekend.

	Miloh is worried about legality.		Miloh is worried about legality.
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	Liz suggests we put this to the wiki.		Liz suggests we put this to the wiki.

	~~Possibly~~ swapping the shop and Turing		Rayc suggests possibly swapping the shop and Turing.

	Miloh is not against it as ~~quick~~ as ~~possibl~~.		Miloh is not against it, and wants it done as quickly as possible.

	Jorgen was worried about the curtain being unsafe.		Jorgen was worried about the curtain being unsafe.
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	Danny asks if we should postpone		Danny asks if we should postpone

	Miloh says we shouldn't postpone, but it would take 1K		Miloh says we shouldn't postpone, but it would take $1K to do, and maybe that $1K should go on fixing up the kitchen.

			CAMEO APPEARENCE OF JAKE APPELBAUM WHO SAYS: hi. He's really glad that we're still talking about tearing down walls after all this time. (Noone has heart to tell him we're talking about building walls even higher, and sealing them to prevent anyone from hearing what happens on the other side.)

	~~Other Jake says: hi~~. ~~He's really glad that we're still talking about tearing down walls~~.		Shannon would like to facilitate a discussion to do it the weekend after Thanksgiving. Probably need $500, Friday - to plan and buy, Saturday -- to frame, Sunday -- and sheetrock.

	~~Shannon would like to facilitate a discussion~~ to do it the ~~weekend after Thanksgiving. Probably need $500, Friday - to plan and buy, Saturday -- to frame, Sunday -- and sheetrock~~.		It is asked who might be around to do this. It is uncovered that the following would be:
			* Miloh
			* Shannon
			* Liz
			* Danny
			* Liz's dad
			* Rayc
			* Zephyr
			* Kaya + her truck.

	~~Miloh~~		Ben appears, and is very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very happy this is happening.
	~~Shannon~~
	~~Liz~~
	~~Danny~~
	~~Liz's dad~~
	~~Rayc~~
	~~Zephyr~~
	~~Kaya + her truck~~.

	~~Ben is very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very happy.~~		==== Kaya now in charge of the drink machine ====

	Kaya asks: someone (no longer here) was taking liberties with the drink machine. We took $34.75 from the machine. She took possession the key. Now we have $75. Should she keep the key?		Kaya asks: someone (no longer here) was taking liberties with the drink machine. We took $34.75 from the machine. She took possession the key. Now we have $75. Should she keep the key?
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	Rayc would like to point out that the vending machine works by asking you to donate to Noisebridge and offering a free gift of a soda.		Rayc would like to point out that the vending machine works by asking you to donate to Noisebridge and offering a free gift of a soda.

			==== Humane mousetrapping ====

	Ada says she has put four mousetraps down, map is on the fridge, please check them to catch the mice.		Ada says she has put four mousetraps down, map is on the fridge, please check them to catch the mice.

			https://plus.google.com/111164228693257897305/posts/2SnVtSbpR9M

	Ramon rats on the mice's behaviour. Ramon says we don't have a rice or a rat problem, we have a cat deficiency.		Ramon rats on the mice's behaviour. Ramon says we don't have a rice or a rat problem, we have a cat deficiency.
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	Mike says its not be efficient to catch the mice. We have stuff that mice like to eat on the floor. Mice do not like empty spaces. If nothing is on the floor than mice will not come.		Mike says its not be efficient to catch the mice. We have stuff that mice like to eat on the floor. Mice do not like empty spaces. If nothing is on the floor than mice will not come.

	Ada says: for dealing with the mice, we could		(People hopefully expect that Mike will use this opportunity to announce his anti-gravity device. It is not to be. Maybe next week.)
	"loan" them to people who have snakes who eat
	mice.		Ada says: for dealing with the mice, we could loan them to people who have snakes who eat mice. Some discussion about whether this would technically be a loan.

	Shannon suggests the construction of a rat-a-pult, that will fling small mammals a distance of more than one mile.		Shannon suggests the construction of a rat-a-pult, that will fling small mammals a distance of more than one mile.

	Josh suggests we merge ~~this~~ with Spacebridge.		Josh suggests we merge the rat-a-pult with Spacebridge.

	Ada responds to the ratapult idea by saying that particularly clever and fast hawks might catch the mice in mid-air.		Ada responds to the ratapult idea by saying that particularly clever and fast hawks might catch the mice in mid-air.
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	Danny offers to mail spacebridge to ask them.		Danny offers to mail spacebridge to ask them.

	~~----~~		==== Cleaners experiment ====

	Will says that we're at the end of our three month experiment with cleaners. How do people feel about that?		Will says that we're at the end of our three month experiment with cleaners. How do people feel about that?
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	Shannon says it seems cleaner.		Shannon says it seems cleaner.

	It is felt that we should put it up for six months.		It is felt that we should put it up for consensus, this time for six months.

	Shannon asks can we get the mice to clean up? That works in fairy tales right?		Shannon asks can we get the mice to clean up? That works in fairy tales right?
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	Rayc suggests we make Second Saturday cleaning day, and make it more fun, like punch and pie, etc.		Rayc suggests we make Second Saturday cleaning day, and make it more fun, like punch and pie, etc.

	Kaya says we should encourage people who make a		Kaya says we should encourage people who make a mess to clean up their stuff.
	mess to clean up their stuff.

			Claudia asks about the roaches.

	~~Claudia asks about the roaches~~.		Shannon suggests we can collect them to make joints.

	~~Shannon suggests we can collect them to make jioints.~~		==== Github ====

	Zephyr would like Noisebridge to have its own github account. He is encouraged to do-acratically make it so.		Zephyr would like Noisebridge to have its own github account. He is encouraged to do-acratically make it so.

			FIN

	=== End of Meeting ===		=== End of Meeting ===

Malaclyps: /* Membership Binder */

2011-11-16T06:24:52Z

Membership Binder

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	=== Membership Binder ===		=== Membership Binder ===

	The Consensus is Kaya is a member!		The Consensus is Kaya is a member! Welcome, Kaya!


	* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a check on every open application.

	* Anyone up for joining this week (ie have four checks by their name + have two sponsors) should introduce themselves then leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime) for the rest of the group. The rest of the meeting should consense on whether they may join.

	=== Consensus items ===		=== Consensus items ===

Malaclyps: one day i will learn markup

2011-11-16T06:22:48Z

one day i will learn markup

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	[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 187th Meeting of Noisebridge]		[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 187th Meeting of Noisebridge]

	Note-taker: [User:Malaclyps\|Danny]		Note-taker: [[User:Malaclyps\|Danny]]

	Moderator: [User:Rayc\|Rayc]		Moderator: [[User:Rayc\|Rayc]]

98.210.11.79: /* Discussion Items */

2011-11-16T06:17:40Z

Discussion Items

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	Claudia says the mice should be donated to Wells-Fargo downtown.		Claudia says the mice should be donated to Wells-Fargo downtown.

	Jake says that cats are evil. He would rather have mice.		Jake says that cats are evil. He would rather have mice. The mice aren't hurting anyone and should not be imprisoned unjustly.

	Miloh wants to help block a door.		Miloh wants to help block a door.
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	Josh suggests we merge this with Spacebridge.		Josh suggests we merge this with Spacebridge.

			Ada responds to the ratapult idea by saying that particularly clever and fast hawks might catch the mice in mid-air.

	Will offers his two kittens.		Will offers his two kittens.