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		<title>Maltman23 at 00:12, 12 February 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-12T00:12:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:12, 11 February 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Actions Items===  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Actions Items===  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Rachel, Andy, Matt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Rachel, Andy, Matt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Maltman23: typo</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-08T17:34:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;typo&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Actions Items===  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Actions Items===  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Rachel, Andy, Matt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Rachel, Andy, Matt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l26&quot;&gt;Line 26:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* LLC and non-profit is about the same effort in terms of filing the papers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* LLC and non-profit is about the same effort in terms of filing the papers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Mitch &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;as &lt;/del&gt;$221, he&amp;#039;s the treasure  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Mitch &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;has &lt;/ins&gt;$221, he&amp;#039;s the treasure  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Jake to talk to Armory owners, possible trade of community classes for reduced rent/free&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Jake to talk to Armory owners, possible trade of community classes for reduced rent/free&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Maltman23</name></author>
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		<title>SpammerHellDontDelete: New page:  === Actions Items===  * Rachel, Andy, Matt ** DBA of Mitch, Rachel, Jake, Matt ** Bank or credit union ** Deposit $221 ** Paypal  === Notes ===  * Club owner JWZ has blogged his lessons l...</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-08T16:58:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page:  === Actions Items===  * Rachel, Andy, Matt ** DBA of Mitch, Rachel, Jake, Matt ** Bank or credit union ** Deposit $221 ** Paypal  === Notes ===  * Club owner JWZ has blogged his lessons l...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== Actions Items=== &lt;br /&gt;
* Rachel, Andy, Matt&lt;br /&gt;
** DBA of Mitch, Rachel, Jake, Matt&lt;br /&gt;
** Bank or credit union&lt;br /&gt;
** Deposit $221&lt;br /&gt;
** Paypal&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes === &lt;br /&gt;
* Club owner JWZ has blogged his lessons learned on filing with the state/business paperwork&lt;br /&gt;
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* Jake is willing to start LLC with a few trusted people&lt;br /&gt;
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* California has $900/yr fee for an LLC or business, initial $400&lt;br /&gt;
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* Security deposit is likely to be 3x first months rent, need to raise money&lt;br /&gt;
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* We should talk to Gunner account non-profit &lt;br /&gt;
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* Keep looking for a space since we have people&lt;br /&gt;
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* If you have friends, ask them if they know of spaces&lt;br /&gt;
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* People see value in putting a bank account&lt;br /&gt;
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* LLC and non-profit is about the same effort in terms of filing the papers&lt;br /&gt;
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* Mitch as $221, he&amp;#039;s the treasure &lt;br /&gt;
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* Jake to talk to Armory owners, possible trade of community classes for reduced rent/free&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sliding scale with minimum &lt;br /&gt;
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* 501c3 is good for tax-write off for donations, but the paperwork aspect is high&lt;br /&gt;
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* do we want to decouple the space vs. membership fee&lt;br /&gt;
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* Corporate, state and federal status is needed, all 3 for true non-profit&lt;br /&gt;
** Likely $3k for fees and lawyer time to do this&lt;br /&gt;
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* Do we need to re-do contracts/name colusion so we dont have to redo insurance, landlord contract, other paperwork&lt;br /&gt;
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* We expenses already.. web hosting, VoIP, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Business cards&lt;br /&gt;
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* Suggestion not to advertise to more people, will take time to revisit all decisions&lt;br /&gt;
** Not closing off, but not recruiting&lt;br /&gt;
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* Have a fundraising party&lt;br /&gt;
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* Need a mechanism to pick the best consistent day, either software, Excel or manual somehow&lt;br /&gt;
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* Open biz account ASAP, under DBA of noisebridge with &amp;gt;3 people on the account, do we need a EIN&lt;br /&gt;
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* Open US Bank account or credit union (Redwood Credit Union), whatever is free on monthly fees&lt;br /&gt;
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* Setup a paypal account, see what the limit is for input of funds max per month, ~3% they take off&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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