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Nthmost: Added link to 86 Speedrun cautionary tale showing what happens when ATL is refused

2026-01-05T13:36:24Z

Added link to 86 Speedrun cautionary tale showing what happens when ATL is refused

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	* [[Community Standards]]		* [[Community Standards]]
	* [[86]] - a list of people that are no longer welcome at Noisebridge		* [[86]] - a list of people that are no longer welcome at Noisebridge
			* [[86 Speedrun]] - What happens when you refuse to accept an Ask To Leave (a cautionary tale)

Audiodude: Remove link to other page, that is now merged with this page. Add nb.wtf link.

2024-08-12T17:47:32Z

Remove link to other page, that is now merged with this page. Add nb.wtf link.

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	* '''BACKING SOMEONE UP:''' If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.		* '''BACKING SOMEONE UP:''' If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.
	* '''REASSURING THOSE ASKED:''' Reassure the person being asked that it is considered excellent to leave when asked. It counts in your favor. Cooperation shows consideration for keeping the space peaceful and you can request [[Mediation]] to provide neutral [[Conflict Resolution]] support to try to clear whatever happened up later.		* '''REASSURING THOSE ASKED:''' Reassure the person being asked that it is considered excellent to leave when asked. It counts in your favor. Cooperation shows consideration for keeping the space peaceful and you can request [[Mediation]] to provide neutral [[Conflict Resolution]] support to try to clear whatever happened up later.
	* You can read ~~out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it~~ and give ~~them~~ this page link to read for themselves:		* You can read and give any parties a link to this page link to read for themselves. It is also available at [https://nb.wtf/atl nb.wtf/atl].

	== Community Members Currently On Leave ==		== Community Members Currently On Leave ==

2600:1700:9DA0:2480:58B5:90A6:A2D7:7D6F: Making the list of currently asked to leave ppl more obvious to see

2023-08-31T21:56:00Z

Making the list of currently asked to leave ppl more obvious to see

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	* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:		* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:

			== Community Members Currently On Leave ==
	Current long-term ask to leave requests in effect can be found at [[AskToLeave/Current]].		Current long-term ask to leave requests in effect can be found at [[AskToLeave/Current]].

Mcint: adding link to Current list

2023-08-30T05:23:53Z

adding link to Current list

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	* '''REASSURING THOSE ASKED:''' Reassure the person being asked that it is considered excellent to leave when asked. It counts in your favor. Cooperation shows consideration for keeping the space peaceful and you can request [[Mediation]] to provide neutral [[Conflict Resolution]] support to try to clear whatever happened up later.		* '''REASSURING THOSE ASKED:''' Reassure the person being asked that it is considered excellent to leave when asked. It counts in your favor. Cooperation shows consideration for keeping the space peaceful and you can request [[Mediation]] to provide neutral [[Conflict Resolution]] support to try to clear whatever happened up later.
	* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:		* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:

			Current long-term ask to leave requests in effect can be found at [[AskToLeave/Current]].

	== Tempering Conflict ==		== Tempering Conflict ==

Mcint: Mcint moved page AskedToLeave to AskToLeave: Unifying related pages into one. Preferring canonical simple active phrasing of the concept, most frequently mentioned form, used in conversation

2023-08-30T05:05:15Z

Mcint moved page AskedToLeave to AskToLeave: Unifying related pages into one. Preferring canonical simple active phrasing of the concept, most frequently mentioned form, used in conversation

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Mcint: merging in contents of "Ask to leave" page, plan to merge/unify pages

2023-08-30T05:02:45Z

merging in contents of "Ask to leave" page, plan to merge/unify pages

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	~~{{headerbox}}~~'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.
			'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.
	* '''COOPERATING IS EXCELLENT:''' It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.		* '''COOPERATING IS EXCELLENT:''' It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.
	* '''BACKING SOMEONE UP:''' If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.		* '''BACKING SOMEONE UP:''' If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.
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	* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:		* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:

			== Tempering Conflict ==
	1. If you're in an argument with somebody that seems irresolvable and		1. If you're in an argument with somebody that seems irresolvable and
	looks like it's escalating beyond attempts at dropping it or [[Conflict Resolution]], you or they can ask the other to leave.		looks like it's escalating beyond attempts at dropping it or [[Conflict Resolution]], you or they can ask the other to leave.
	It's okay for both sides to do that, because that gets the confrontation out of the space, and gives time for people to calm down.		It's okay for both sides to do that, because that gets the confrontation out of the space, and gives time for people to calm down.

			An argument about exclusionary use of the space.*

	2. It's considered excellent to leave. It counts in your favor.		2. It's considered excellent to leave. It counts in your favor.
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	More clarifying points 5-7 on this follow.		More clarifying points 5-7 on this follow.
	~~{{boxend}}~~

	See also:		=== See also ===
	* [[Unexcellent]] - A page to link to people (noisebridge.net/unexcellent) as you're walking them to the door after asking them to leave		* [[Unexcellent]] - A page to link to people (noisebridge.net/unexcellent) as you're walking them to the door after asking them to leave
	* [[Conflict Resolution]]		* [[Conflict Resolution]]
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	* [[86]] - a list of people that are no longer welcome at Noisebridge		* [[86]] - a list of people that are no longer welcome at Noisebridge

	~~{{ManualPage}}~~

	Noisebridge operates on an "Ask to Leave" policy. This means that anyone is empowered to ask anyone else to leave if they feel they're being unexcellent, and have first tried to resolve it through discussion.

	== Process ==		== Process ==
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	This overall process is described in our [[Mediation\|Mediation]] writeup. Please read it.		This overall process is described in our [[Mediation\|Mediation]] writeup. Please read it.

	~~{{ManualPage}}~~
	{{DocsWG}}		{{DocsWG}}

Mcint at 04:58, 30 August 2023

2023-08-30T04:58:00Z

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	Noisebridge operates on an "Ask to Leave" policy. This means that anyone is empowered to ask anyone else to leave if they feel they're being unexcellent, and have first tried to resolve it through discussion.		Noisebridge operates on an "Ask to Leave" policy. This means that anyone is empowered to ask anyone else to leave if they feel they're being unexcellent, and have first tried to resolve it through discussion.

	= Process =		== Process ==
	== Resolve Conflicts ==		=== Resolve Conflicts ===

	First attempt to resolve the situation through discussion.<br>		First attempt to resolve the situation through discussion.<br>
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	And weaponising "Ask to Leave" to fit your own personal priorities even more so.		And weaponising "Ask to Leave" to fit your own personal priorities even more so.

	== Discuss with others ==		=== Discuss with others ===

	If someone is being unexcellent in the space, and you can't reach a resolution with them, first discuss with others in the space to double-check your feelings on the matter. If you're worried about confronting this person alone, gather others present around the space together to help assist you to make your case.		If someone is being unexcellent in the space, and you can't reach a resolution with them, first discuss with others in the space to double-check your feelings on the matter. If you're worried about confronting this person alone, gather others present around the space together to help assist you to make your case.

	== Asking someone to leave ==		=== Asking someone to leave ===

	It's important when asking someone to leave to '''not invite them to a Tuesday meeting'''. Tuesday meetings are not a place for drama to be hashed out in front of the community, they're a productive time for non-drama.		It's important when asking someone to leave to '''not invite them to a Tuesday meeting'''. Tuesday meetings are not a place for drama to be hashed out in front of the community, they're a productive time for non-drama.

	== Further Mediation ==		=== Further Mediation ===

	If you feel like the situation can be resolved through mediation, seek a sponsor in the community willing to mediate the conflict and ask the [[Safe Space Working Group]] to schedule a meeting.<br>		If you feel like the situation can be resolved through mediation, seek a sponsor in the community willing to mediate the conflict and ask the [[Safe Space Working Group]] to schedule a meeting.<br>

Mcint at 04:57, 30 August 2023

2023-08-30T04:57:08Z

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 * [[Community Standards]]
 * [[86]] - a list of people that are no longer welcome at Noisebridge
 ==Guidelines==

Lxpk at 19:39, 1 March 2022

2022-03-01T19:39:04Z

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	{{headerbox}}'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.		{{headerbox}}'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.
	* '''COOPERATING IS EXCELLENT:''' It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.		* '''COOPERATING IS EXCELLENT:''' It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.

Lxpk at 07:33, 25 December 2021

2021-12-25T07:33:00Z

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	{{gettingalong}}		{{gettingalong}}
	{{headerbox}}'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.		{{headerbox}}'''Ask To Leave Policy:''' If someone behaves in a way that makes you feel unsafe or attempts at diffusing an argument fail and it escalates, you can ask a person to leave.
	* It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.		* '''COOPERATING IS EXCELLENT:''' It is excellent of someone asked to leave to cooperate to diffuse things till it can be discussed and resolved later when people are calmer.
	* If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.		* '''BACKING SOMEONE UP:''' If someone asks for someone to leave, even if you don't understand the reasons, it is usually excellent to back the person asking up and to take the person asked aside to diffuse the face-to-face conflict between them.
	* Reassure the person being asked that ~~their cooperation~~ shows ~~compassion~~ for ~~how~~ the ~~person asking feels~~ and ~~counts in their favor~~.		* '''REASSURING THOSE ASKED:''' Reassure the person being asked that it is considered excellent to leave when asked. It counts in your favor. Cooperation shows consideration for keeping the space peaceful and you can request [[Mediation]] to provide neutral [[Conflict Resolution]] support to try to clear whatever happened up later.
	* You can read out the ~~full~~ [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it:		* You can read out the basic [[AskedToLeave]] policy if anyone is confused about it and give them this page link to read for themselves:

	1. If you're in an argument with somebody that seems irresolvable and		1. If you're in an argument with somebody that seems irresolvable and
	looks like it's escalating, you or they ~~should~~ ask the other to leave.		looks like it's escalating beyond attempts at dropping it or [[Conflict Resolution]], you or they can ask the other to leave.
	It's okay for both sides to do that, because that gets the		It's okay for both sides to do that, because that gets the confrontation out of the space, and gives time for people to calm down.
	confrontation out of the space, and gives time for people to calm down.

	2. It's considered excellent to leave. It counts in your favor.		2. It's considered excellent to leave. It counts in your favor.