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Meeting Notes 2020 11 17

2020-11-18T07:44:59Z

Noisebridge VR:

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/972291454
*Call: ###-###-#### (TODO: [[User:🗄|Escritoire ala Secretary 🗄]] ([[User talk:🗄|talk]]) 07:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC))

* Date: November 17th MMXX
* Note-takers: Pyconaut and others
* Moderators: pyconaut

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

Dan- Participation at noisebridge is using the sppace and be excelent while using the space. This can be talking a class, teaching a class, helping others. Even though we are closed, we still have a lot of ways people can help out. Including volunteering to help build out the new space.

But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems-
noisebridge slack- ask around
noisebridge discuss https://discuss.noisebridge.info/
noisebridge wiki https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/
noisebridge meetup https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/
noisebridge discord- ask around
noisebridge maling list- being redevolped

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

Philathropist is someone who donates to noisebridge, often money ($40-$80)
You must be a trusted person in the community.
You have to have One big M Member sign off on you.
At a tuesday meeting it will be discussed, and you will be questioned.
you get 24/7 access.
It can be revoked by the community if you are shown to be unexcellent.
You need to know how to open the space, close the space, give tours, and explain what noisebridge is.

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we be placed on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present (or by proxy) decide if they want to block you or not, if no Member blocks your membership application you become a Member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. If you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue and then reapply at a later time.

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

Pyconaut- he/ him - Doing VR, starting to help more with build out, worried about covid safety, and space privacy.
Mark- Bellingham washington makerspace, like to make clothing, and doing glasswork, learning FPGA programming.
Relay- he / him- Playing on linux, likes useful scripts, helping install linux, enjoys youtube download, ffmpeg
Jay- messing around with music, visual art, and working, learning Sequl and processing, and Hydra,
Mentar- From UK, used to be member and trustee of the London Hackspace(partly based on noisebridge) likes ebike hacking, hydroponics, programming, AI and firmware
Dan- interested in neurosciecne, machine learning, computer sciences, and other cool stuff
James- owes J a birthday present, doing ffmpeg, used o live in bellingham
Potato head- I wanted to check about how someone applies for membership during COVID closure ?
Gwen- I am into tinyHome for housing on slack.
Yantra-
Carl- Software developer, lavalamp.app, does flashen taschen, just made plasmajs.com
20:38
devil
Hi I'm one of the b33f'y Gaming VR computers on wheels in the hackitorium, available for video conferencing and general collaboration, useful for monitoring the driveway when behind the "curtain"
20:57
upstairs
I'm the computer otherwise known as FAA, a small cube in the front upstairs overlooking the driveway
20:58
temple
Another Game VR super COVID cruncking folding box, useable for making distancing ttrainin

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

5mof coming up this week at 8 on our jitsi find out more at 5mof.net will be at jitsi.noisebridge.io/5mof

Our Secure Scuttlebutt Pub server is back online and open for invites. Enjoy a totally decentralized, e2e-encrypted, offline-first Social Network for introverts.
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Pub

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

none

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

none

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

*cash-248,616.13
*crypt-97,035.01
*total-345,651.14
*Cash %-71.93%
*crypto %-28.07%

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

Capacity Cap on Capp
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"

|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

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| November 17, 2020
| fnord
| Capacity Cap at 272 Capp Under Construction and Further Restrictions in this Time of Contagion
|
0) '''Respecting (recently updated) SF requirements relating to coronavirus pandemic''', Noisebridge is temporarily closed for "business as usual". Whatever details, safe to say for the foreseeable future: '''no in-person "events"''' (classes, tours, parties, etc). And most activities related to the buildout should probably hold off for now - let's stick to '''Minimum Basic Operations''' to be on the safe side. Take a break folks!

1) Going forward, '''limit number of people indoors''' at 272 Capp to '''3 downstairs and 3 upstairs''' - whenever knowledgeable volunteers can safely get back to work building out the new space. "Buddy System" to encourage effective social distancing, masks and like seriously - '''no more indoor dining ffs please enjoy your snacks and drinks outside thanks'''.

2) Knowledgeable Volunteers are encouraged to facilitate safe and productive use of the space. '''Knowledgeable Volunteers schedule work in advance and coordinate efforts as much as humanly possible.''' Knowledgeable Volunteers are best volunteers! Because they schedule in advance and don't mess around in the space too much! '''Knowledgeable Volunteers are welcome''' and will be supported in their relentless pursuit of excellence.

3) Prioritize some projects to safely open the the space for more participants, such as '''ventilation''' and making good use of the '''outdoor space'''. Allocate funds and '''encourage donations''' for these "phase zero" buildout expenses - for example might could '''budget $1000''' for some of the fans and shop stuff (tbd, not going crazy with stuff here but should arrange to expedite any necessary purchases in the interest of Moving the Project Forward). Basic safety equipment such as '''fire extinguishers and exit lighting must be deployed''' as well, prior to any other significant work being done by volunteers in the physical space.

4) Autoexpiration: Unless re-affirmed at a later date, these extraordinary restrictions should be considered '''obsolete by (at the latest) March 14th 2021''' - and open to reasonable modifications at any point as things change. Probably should refresh details and reconfirm relevance at least every month or so. And we can take it from there to increase capacity as conditions permit.

Anyway. This proposal for (formal) Consensus claims to reflect the current state of affairs and a rough consensus of volunteers working to build out the space. It's been going great so far and we'd like to keep it rocking - safely. Further suggestions, questions, support (and moar volunteers!) from the broader Noisebridge community would be most welcome at this point.
| fnord
|-

|}

Dan- It should be self explanatory as to why we need this.

Dan- any questions

Mark- Question- our makerspace up here in is open to 20%

Dan- SF is doing ok, but our area of the mission is at much higher risk. We also figured out that it is safer to just close down our space, and allow for slow build out instead of going overboard.

(new restrictions were just added by the governor of CA as of yesterday... should check on this to confirm)

Curtains- keep in mind we finished moving during covid two weeks ago, and are just now starting to refocus on build out of the space, so we still have to setup a space to open, and manage current reality
Only a couple people were able to help move at a time to our new space. Absolutely excellent people helped out. Many are burned out now. It is hard for our space to function in the way we wish it could.

not burned out yet, 9 years, 11 months and 20 something days to go, for 272 ;+) it's a marathon for us all if we are lucky, sprints welcomed with consensus building

Pyconaut- I agree with everything

Jay- What are state of classes

Dan- We are trying to do online classes. We are trying to start recording tool use guides for ou new tools in the space. But if we say we are teaching classes, we have to do a lot of paperwork to make the city OK us on taching classes. We should not be having even a single student class in thhe space.

Jay- What online classes are hapening
weekly meeting
accessabilty meetings
Circuit hacking monday

Dan- Any concers, power tripping, private use of space, what should change

Pyconaut- Still wondering about teachers using the space for remote classes, and events that were going to be in the space. Things like sewing area for sewing class, VR computer for teaching, audio area for ableton.

curtains - I want to come back to that safety bit, in telepresence, and using the space to hang out by yourself

Pyconaut- I think a mistake I have been making is eating whiel running a few of the online events and have not gone outside to eat. I don't think it sets a good example. I will probably stop eating at noisebridge or find a way to monitor stuff from outside.

Dan- Eating outside can be goten used to.

Pyconaut- if we even want to have teachers come in, we need more protective gear, so they feel safe. And more ventalation.

Pyconaut- no other comments?

James- what about re-writing the time line to be "re-consense after three months" instead of in 2021.

Dan - Sounds good

Pyconaut- No Member blocks it?

Pyconaut- I don't hear any blocks. This goes to next week..

Dan- Talk to people and find out if anyone wants any changes.

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===
Basic space safety (with limited use)
*Buddy System (+Virtual)
*PPE
**Mask, modified Respirators (moderate stock)
**Gloves (well stocked)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Sanitizer (NEED MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Wipes (MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
*Distancing (Demonstration distancing marks needed)
*No indoor eating/drinking (Eat before/after visiting, use driveway/car)
Pyconaut - I will do better

=== Discussion Item 2 ===
Telepresence cameras
*Safety & Privacy
*Recording, re-broadcasting, scraping
*Access

Pyconaut - it was brought to my attention over the last couple weeks people have heard we have a jitsi server for NB always running with cameras connected. And people are concerned why are cameras connected and is there a danger of cameras recording / monitoring people. Where are the cameras? How easy are they to turn off?
Some context: we have been trying to setup telepresence in the space so people can take classes remotely - so we need telepresence setups in a couple classwrooms for when needed. We've set these up as testing instances. Monitor computer keyboard mouse and webcam are adequately labeled - easy to locate, none hidden - able to be turned off or on by any person in the space without much effort. Unclear if they can be turned on or off remotely. But the current use of them has mainly been during buildout to be a way of communicating between people seperated in different rooms - or to contact remote [advisors] for information about the space. For example when working on 3d printers or electronics room they can contact someone over jitsi to discuss what they need to do. This is important to communicate

Question:
Does the space include visible documentation on the cameras?
Is there a sign saying "Recording in Progress" or similar?

Pyconaut - yes but could be better. We could have bigger lighted signs indicating not only if jitsi is running on a computer, but also if camera or microphone is on. (Some systems run headless)

. Something like the ngalac has - a giant on-air button

Relay - are they constantly on?

You do see below..., could be, will be automated, dry erase and door glass for now.

Is it visibly clear which part of a room is being recorded via video? Example: step beyond this line and you are now live on the feed with chalk or crayon marks on the floor

Is it currently possible to opt out of being recorded in the space while in the space?
No, enter and you are recorded. Just clarifying. ;)

Is the external camera still that ring camera+light combo that was previously installed during move-in?

Theres a GIANT RED STOP LIGHT that says RECORDING, for potential of actual recording, and simpler signage for in house only could be added.

they are generally left on, staring at walls or cams (when the space is empty) and can be turned off physically and remotely
they've been on as much as possible to stress the system, not necessarily expected to be default mode long term

Where are the cameras located? (haven't been to capp to see; just write in below please).

Look at who's in this jitsi meetings, and the cameras that introduced themselves earlier. It changes constantlys depending on what if anything is happening, and who's comfortable with what level of activity.

J - are they always connected to the internet?

Pyconaut: Currently people who have been going to the space have been leaving them running. Possibly to help monitor gate etc. Any person in the space is able to turn off all of the telepresce setup

Dan- the setups are very obvious, and are connected to eachother (crazy echo). We know this can be very dagerous, but we are trying to be transparent, and trying to develop this so that it is safe, and will fix any issues.

James- Is it possible to opt out

Dan- absolutly

James- is there any way to opt out while entering the space

THERE IS NO RECORDING IN THE SPACE BY DEFAULT. You have to go in to a closed room and step in front a live camera. Does not cover what others who have access to the space physical or virtual want to do as well.

Pyconaut- we do have a gate camera that is always running, and has not been put offline as we do not have a gate system up yet.

J- it is importaint to have a outdoor looking camera. But I dont think we should have any remotly accessable cameras that are online all the time, and could theoretiaccly be recorded by third parties.

You walk by several ring cameras on the way to capp st by the way if you aren't really really careful.

But, do we still also have the ring camera outside? Or a different camera?

we havern't identfied who's property is, it's pointed at the sky with tape over it and isn't actively connected. (thanks)

The driveway is also streaming, and has currently joined the jitsi (upstairs)

Relay- In the moment people could record very easily, includen what we are doing right now. this is public right now, as it is a meeting. But also while noisebridge is closed it seems like a good time to test these things, and that we will change them when we open.

J- how transparent is enough, and

How do you create instruction and classes without recording with a camera, for virtual out of space experience?

Mark is awesome right not making clothes on their home camera.

Pyconaut- I think there's been a lot of good questions. What? Oh. Yeah. Okay.
There's a few comments ... Another thing there are cameras on quite a few buildings near noisebridge so we could make a map where the cameras are in the neighborhood for people
coming to visit.

Could we put a button near the front door for people to turn off cameras when they come in

rasperry pi telepresense with a button that can sever everything when pressed.

put them in physical space. that way they can hit the button and turn off the jitsi instances other than i think the front gate secure, we should leave the one in the front open i dont' think it is being recorded. it is important to be able to make sure that nobody is trying to break in (it already happened)

Dan: im getting tired. Big picture words.

Dan- I completly agree with J and Relay, I am fed up with cameras especially what happened at thhe old space. We are currently doing this testing because noisebridge is closed, and is the only time we can test it. what matters is who is actually coming to the space's opinion.

Pyconaut: i think that we do have a group of people worried about not being able to enter the space securely. we should be able to accomodate those that want to come in not being recorded and let them in without being recorded. the person that lets them in can turn off the cameras. if people want to let us know when they are coming and they want no recording we'll turn them off.

Anyone present have an issue coming to the space with everything they've just heard?

I have been at the space for 100's of hours testing camera settings, and haven't had any issues that could not be reasonably accomidated.

It's been discussed in several meetings which has been re-discussed in other forums. This is also new and being documented as developed.

Question
James- Is documentation of our Capp location cameras publicly posted on the wiki or forum or mailing list?

we should make a wiki page for the telepresense that has not been updated with this new stuff. we don't have the locations up to date. none of them have a password. all are ascessable from the inside. One of the machine's password is ***************. X probaly knows the status and software of these computers.

How easy is it to do stuff? we want to make sure no keyloggers are on the system and sniffers. SOme unexcellent people did that in the past. we should make our system more secure. Some poeple did that to the VR earlier and made things unexcellent.

Then you all seriously need to stop using Windows on everything

Wait are their hackers at hackerspaces!? iz late, get'n later, ya'll want a show or what?

Dan: the monitoring of surveilence might be something to be concerned.

James:: there is no docuemtnation for something I invented tomorrow?, and it's a wiki documenta way.
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Dan: it is a work in progress. Thank you for your point though. it is not permenant.
If it was perminant it would absoluly need documentation.

(argument insues briefly)

It is an experiment that is controversial.

J- it should probably be documented already even as a temperary setup.

Dan: X did lots of documentation for the cameras. look at the wiki if you want to. Please try if you want to. it definately crossed some lines. thank you. Thank you for your patience

https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?search=jitsi+hackitorium&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

pyconaut: James wanted a direct answer that's all. It is very important to poeple here. People were going to publish a post that said that noisebridge is 1984'd distopia.

J from some people's perspective it is good to have security for those that want it now, but I don't agree with haveing a camera in the space. I understand it is for now, but it is a fine line and we are right on the line right now. Many fought against it. Poeple have been thrown out for putting cameras in the space. It seems to be a form of security, but i don't think it is good. It might be turned against us.

?? I love having tape to put on cameras where I go. thanks for coming out and huge shout out to mark working in the middle of a meeting. I want to underscore this is for getting there. A year ago we had meetings in person without masks.

This testing of the servers and telepresence infrastructure is only doable to during the time

We can remotly disable all of these,

we are trying to test stuff while it dosent invade anyones privacy. I have be a big security activist, and am trying to figure this out to so that it meets everyones security concerns.

J- it is a fine line, and I am concerened
X- we recently used this setup to record a guide to use a new noisebridge tool that was donated.

Dan- Hearing the concerns by people like j who is concerned and wants to help set up the space. We need to make the current space meet their concerns and others and take them down.

J- I am more concerned about the larger community, and what this means for the people who are concerned.

X- The notes are a shorthand version of the exact things talked about during this meeting,

X- This server for the meeting has ETE encription and is running on a noisebrige computer in the space, and anyone who wants to know how it is working they can talk to X.

X- I plan to remotly hard shut down all the computers with cameras right after the meeting and they can only be turned on in the space.

Pyconaut- I think the gate camera should be left on for security?

X- We should also move off of windows and secure the drives with encription, for when we do record classes

Dan- I want to hear the concerns of others who would tell people to stop supporting noisebridge.

Pyconaut- I am sorry to any readers, as there were very useful things said that me and others could not write up in easily.

X- Noisebridge is still a do-ocracy and can be changed by the community.

J- I want to help out, what stuff need work.

X- we have not forgotten about security and privacy.

X- a new thing I am testing a is giant stop light in the rooms that have a camera that is running, and a two way mirror blocking the camera from viewing anything other then itself.

X- how can we make it easier for systems that teachers can just come in and use the systems. Or even remote into the systems to use for a class, or for someone remotly to control a computer in the space to help someone use that computer (home teacher, in person student)

X- We want to be able to meet everyones needs and everyones concerns, but this requires testing.

J- I want people to be able to easily come into the space, and be able to quickly start using the gear in the space.

J having a camera in the space changes the dynamic, I do not agree with the principles that we should have cameras in the space.

X- We have always had events in the space and many have been streamed, and people are made aware.

J- can we have a feed right at the enterance, can we make it even more transparent about what cameras are on.

Dan- How can we keep people from being unaware about the cameras.

J- People have also come to me with concerns about the cameras.

J- this will not be end of the conversation

X- This has been an experamental setup,,, and is constantly changing based on feedback.

Dan- This is where it starts, this is not the end all be all, we need to have this conversation continue.

Dan- We are still a community, and are havingissues seting up the new physical space, and the cameras have helped trememdously.

Question
Is the Jitsi machine accessible from .info?
jitsi.noisebridge.io (aka: Vbox on cia.noise)
NO, it's not on Unicorn, it's in the physical space and physically accessable

Pyconaut- These notes do not answer all the quesions perfectly, and some things might be confusing. If you still have concerns please let someone you trust know, if you want you can message me on slack, discord, or discuss.

Didn't ask about Jitsi for discussion item; just asking.
== Discussion Item 3 ==
[Question] are all of our meetings to be on this Jitsi moving forward?
Pyconaut- Yes it has been stable enough
- We should add the ability for users to phone in via SIP
- Also, we can use Mumble VOIP to greatly alleviate bandwidth concerns in Jitsi. It is already installed at mumble.noisebridge.info and allows users to silently listen / audio-only join en masse for the Jitsi calls. Supports vastly more people (hundreds), allows easy anonymous participation, push-to-talk, txt-to-speech, low latency and you can see live examples at mumble.jupiterbroadcasting.org which are used daily for podcasting with 50 - 100 people participating. Very similar to Discord in design.
- just needs to be setup to integrate into the Jitsi calls.

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes 2020 11 17

2020-11-18T07:36:36Z

Noisebridge VR:

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/972291454
*Call: ###-###-#### (TODO: [[User:🗄|Escritoire ala Secretary 🗄]] ([[User talk:🗄|talk]]) 07:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC))

* Date: November 17th MMXX
* Note-takers: Pyconaut and others
* Moderators: pyconaut

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

Dan- Participation at noisebridge is using the sppace and be excelent while using the space. This can be talking a class, teaching a class, helping others. Even though we are closed, we still have a lot of ways people can help out. Including volunteering to help build out the new space.

But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems-
noisebridge slack- ask around
noisebridge discuss https://discuss.noisebridge.info/
noisebridge wiki https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/
noisebridge meetup https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/
noisebridge discord- ask around
noisebridge maling list- being redevolped

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

Philathropist is someone who donates to noisebridge, often money ($40-$80)
You must be a trusted person in the community.
You have to have One big M Member sign off on you.
At a tuesday meeting it will be discussed, and you will be questioned.
you get 24/7 access.
It can be revoked by the community if you are shown to be unexcellent.
You need to know how to open the space, close the space, give tours, and explain what noisebridge is.

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we be placed on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present (or by proxy) decide if they want to block you or not, if no Member blocks your membership application you become a Member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. If you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue and then reapply at a later time.

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

Pyconaut- he/ him - Doing VR, starting to help more with build out, worried about covid safety, and space privacy.
Mark- Bellingham washington makerspace, like to make clothing, and doing glasswork, learning FPGA programming.
Relay- he / him- Playing on linux, likes useful scripts, helping install linux, enjoys youtube download, ffmpeg
Jay- messing around with music, visual art, and working, learning Sequl and processing, and Hydra,
Mentar- From UK, used to be member and trustee of the London Hackspace(partly based on noisebridge) likes ebike hacking, hydroponics, programming, AI and firmware
Dan- interested in neurosciecne, machine learning, computer sciences, and other cool stuff
James- owes J a birthday present, doing ffmpeg, used o live in bellingham
Potato head- I wanted to check about how someone applies for membership during COVID closure ?
Gwen- I am into tinyHome for housing on slack.
Yantra-
Carl- Software developer, lavalamp.app, does flashen taschen, just made plasmajs.com
20:38
devil
Hi I'm one of the b33f'y Gaming VR computers on wheels in the hackitorium, available for video conferencing and general collaboration, useful for monitoring the driveway when behind the "curtain"
20:57
upstairs
I'm the computer otherwise known as FAA, a small cube in the front upstairs overlooking the driveway
20:58
temple
Another Game VR super COVID cruncking folding box, useable for making distancing ttrainin

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

5mof coming up this week at 8 on our jitsi find out more at 5mof.net will be at jitsi.noisebridge.io/5mof

Our Secure Scuttlebutt Pub server is back online and open for invites. Enjoy a totally decentralized, e2e-encrypted, offline-first Social Network for introverts.
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Pub

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

none

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

none

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

Capacity Cap on Capp
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"

|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

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| November 17, 2020
| fnord
| Capacity Cap at 272 Capp Under Construction and Further Restrictions in this Time of Contagion
|
0) '''Respecting (recently updated) SF requirements relating to coronavirus pandemic''', Noisebridge is temporarily closed for "business as usual". Whatever details, safe to say for the foreseeable future: '''no in-person "events"''' (classes, tours, parties, etc). And most activities related to the buildout should probably hold off for now - let's stick to '''Minimum Basic Operations''' to be on the safe side. Take a break folks!

1) Going forward, '''limit number of people indoors''' at 272 Capp to '''3 downstairs and 3 upstairs''' - whenever knowledgeable volunteers can safely get back to work building out the new space. "Buddy System" to encourage effective social distancing, masks and like seriously - '''no more indoor dining ffs please enjoy your snacks and drinks outside thanks'''.

2) Knowledgeable Volunteers are encouraged to facilitate safe and productive use of the space. '''Knowledgeable Volunteers schedule work in advance and coordinate efforts as much as humanly possible.''' Knowledgeable Volunteers are best volunteers! Because they schedule in advance and don't mess around in the space too much! '''Knowledgeable Volunteers are welcome''' and will be supported in their relentless pursuit of excellence.

3) Prioritize some projects to safely open the the space for more participants, such as '''ventilation''' and making good use of the '''outdoor space'''. Allocate funds and '''encourage donations''' for these "phase zero" buildout expenses - for example might could '''budget $1000''' for some of the fans and shop stuff (tbd, not going crazy with stuff here but should arrange to expedite any necessary purchases in the interest of Moving the Project Forward). Basic safety equipment such as '''fire extinguishers and exit lighting must be deployed''' as well, prior to any other significant work being done by volunteers in the physical space.

4) Autoexpiration: Unless re-affirmed at a later date, these extraordinary restrictions should be considered '''obsolete by (at the latest) March 14th 2021''' - and open to reasonable modifications at any point as things change. Probably should refresh details and reconfirm relevance at least every month or so. And we can take it from there to increase capacity as conditions permit.

Anyway. This proposal for (formal) Consensus claims to reflect the current state of affairs and a rough consensus of volunteers working to build out the space. It's been going great so far and we'd like to keep it rocking - safely. Further suggestions, questions, support (and moar volunteers!) from the broader Noisebridge community would be most welcome at this point.
| fnord
|-

|}

Dan- It should be self explanatory as to why we need this.

Dan- any questions

Mark- Question- our makerspace up here in is open to 20%

Dan- SF is doing ok, but our area of the mission is at much higher risk. We also figured out that it is safer to just close down our space, and allow for slow build out instead of going overboard.

(new restrictions were just added by the governor of CA as of yesterday... should check on this to confirm)

Curtains- keep in mind we finished moving during covid two weeks ago, and are just now starting to refocus on build out of the space, so we still have to setup a space to open, and manage current reality
Only a couple people were able to help move at a time to our new space. Absolutely excellent people helped out. Many are burned out now. It is hard for our space to function in the way we wish it could.

not burned out yet, 9 years, 11 months and 20 something days to go, for 272 ;+) it's a marathon for us all if we are lucky, sprints welcomed with consensus building

Pyconaut- I agree with everything

Jay- What are state of classes

Dan- We are trying to do online classes. We are trying to start recording tool use guides for ou new tools in the space. But if we say we are teaching classes, we have to do a lot of paperwork to make the city OK us on taching classes. We should not be having even a single student class in thhe space.

Jay- What online classes are hapening
weekly meeting
accessabilty meetings
Circuit hacking monday

Dan- Any concers, power tripping, private use of space, what should change

Pyconaut- Still wondering about teachers using the space for remote classes, and events that were going to be in the space. Things like sewing area for sewing class, VR computer for teaching, audio area for ableton.

curtains - I want to come back to that safety bit, in telepresence, and using the space to hang out by yourself

Pyconaut- I think a mistake I have been making is eating whiel running a few of the online events and have not gone outside to eat. I don't think it sets a good example. I will probably stop eating at noisebridge or find a way to monitor stuff from outside.

Dan- Eating outside can be goten used to.

Pyconaut- if we even want to have teachers come in, we need more protective gear, so they feel safe. And more ventalation.

Pyconaut- no other comments?

James- what about re-writing the time line to be "re-consense after three months" instead of in 2021.

Dan - Sounds good

Pyconaut- No Member blocks it?

Pyconaut- I don't hear any blocks. This goes to next week..

Dan- Talk to people and find out if anyone wants any changes.

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===
Basic space safety (with limited use)
*Buddy System (+Virtual)
*PPE
**Mask, modified Respirators (moderate stock)
**Gloves (well stocked)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Sanitizer (NEED MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Wipes (MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
*Distancing (Demonstration distancing marks needed)
*No indoor eating/drinking (Eat before/after visiting, use driveway/car)
Pyconaut - I will do better

=== Discussion Item 2 ===
Telepresence cameras
*Safety & Privacy
*Recording, re-broadcasting, scraping
*Access

Pyconaut - it was brought to my attention over the last couple weeks people have heard we have a jitsi server for NB always running with cameras connected. And people are concerned why are cameras connected and is there a danger of cameras recording / monitoring people. Where are the cameras? How easy are they to turn off?
Some context: we have been trying to setup telepresence in the space so people can take classes remotely - so we need telepresence setups in a couple classwrooms for when needed. We've set these up as testing instances. Monitor computer keyboard mouse and webcam are adequately labeled - easy to locate, none hidden - able to be turned off or on by any person in the space without much effort. Unclear if they can be turned on or off remotely. But the current use of them has mainly been during buildout to be a way of communicating between people seperated in different rooms - or to contact remote [advisors] for information about the space. For example when working on 3d printers or electronics room they can contact someone over jitsi to discuss what they need to do. This is important to communicate

Question:
Does the space include visible documentation on the cameras?
Is there a sign saying "Recording in Progress" or similar?

Pyconaut - yes but could be better. We could have bigger lighted signs indicating not only if jitsi is running on a computer, but also if camera or microphone is on. (Some systems run headless)

. Something like the ngalac has - a giant on-air button

Relay - are they constantly on?

You do see below..., could be, will be automated, dry erase and door glass for now.

Is it visibly clear which part of a room is being recorded via video? Example: step beyond this line and you are now live on the feed with chalk or crayon marks on the floor

Is it currently possible to opt out of being recorded in the space while in the space?
No, enter and you are recorded. Just clarifying. ;)

Is the external camera still that ring camera+light combo that was previously installed during move-in?

Theres a GIANT RED STOP LIGHT that says RECORDING, for potential of actual recording, and simpler signage for in house only could be added.

they are generally left on, staring at walls or cams (when the space is empty) and can be turned off physically and remotely
they've been on as much as possible to stress the system, not necessarily expected to be default mode long term

Where are the cameras located? (haven't been to capp to see; just write in below please).

Look at who's in this jitsi meetings, and the cameras that introduced themselves earlier. It changes constantlys depending on what if anything is happening, and who's comfortable with what level of activity.

J - are they always connected to the internet?

Pyconaut: Currently people who have been going to the space have been leaving them running. Possibly to help monitor gate etc. Any person in the space is able to turn off all of the telepresce setup

Dan- the setups are very obvious, and are connected to eachother (crazy echo). We know this can be very dagerous, but we are trying to be transparent, and trying to develop this so that it is safe, and will fix any issues.

James- Is it possible to opt out

Dan- absolutly

James- is there any way to opt out while entering the space

THERE IS NO RECORDING IN THE SPACE BY DEFAULT. You have to go in to a closed room and step in front a live camera. Does not cover what others who have access to the space physical or virtual want to do as well.

Pyconaut- we do have a gate camera that is always running, and has not been put offline as we do not have a gate system up yet.

J- it is importaint to have a outdoor looking camera. But I dont think we should have any remotly accessable cameras that are online all the time, and could theoretiaccly be recorded by third parties.

You walk by several ring cameras on the way to capp st by the way if you aren't really really careful.

But, do we still also have the ring camera outside? Or a different camera?

we havern't identfied who's property is, it's pointed at the sky with tape over it and isn't actively connected. (thanks)

The driveway is also streaming, and has currently joined the jitsi (upstairs)

Relay- In the moment people could record very easily, includen what we are doing right now. this is public right now, as it is a meeting. But also while noisebridge is closed it seems like a good time to test these things, and that we will change them when we open.

J- how transparent is enough, and

How do you create instruction and classes without recording with a camera, for virtual out of space experience?

Mark is awesome right not making clothes on their home camera.

Pyconaut- I think there's been a lot of good questions. What? Oh. Yeah. Okay.
There's a few comments ... Another thing there are cameras on quite a few buildings near noisebridge so we could make a map where the cameras are in the neighborhood for people
coming to visit.

Could we put a button near the front door for people to turn off cameras when they come in

rasperry pi telepresense with a button that can sever everything when pressed.

put them in physical space. that way they can hit the button and turn off the jitsi instances other than i think the front gate secure, we should leave the one in the front open i dont' think it is being recorded. it is important to be able to make sure that nobody is trying to break in (it already happened)

Dan: im getting tired. Big picture words.

Dan- I completly agree with J and Relay, I am fed up with cameras especially what happened at thhe old space. We are currently doing this testing because noisebridge is closed, and is the only time we can test it. what matters is who is actually coming to the space's opinion.

Pyconaut: i think that we do have a group of people worried about not being able to enter the space securely. we should be able to accomodate those that want to come in not being recorded and let them in without being recorded. the person that lets them in can turn off the cameras. if people want to let us know when they are coming and they want no recording we'll turn them off.

Anyone present have an issue coming to the space with everything they've just heard?

I have been at the space for 100's of hours testing camera settings, and haven't had any issues that could not be reasonably accomidated.

It's been discussed in several meetings which has been re-discussed in other forums. This is also new and being documented as developed.

Question
James- Is documentation of our Capp location cameras publicly posted on the wiki or forum or mailing list?

we should make a wiki page for the telepresense that has not been updated with this new stuff. we don't have the locations up to date. none of them have a password. all are ascessable from the inside. One of the machine's password is ***************. X probaly knows the status and software of these computers.

How easy is it to do stuff? we want to make sure no keyloggers are on the system and sniffers. SOme unexcellent people did that in the past. we should make our system more secure. Some poeple did that to the VR earlier and made things unexcellent.

Then you all seriously need to stop using Windows on everything

Wait are their hackers at hackerspaces!? iz late, get'n later, ya'll want a show or what?

Dan: the monitoring of surveilence might be something to be concerned.

James:: there is no docuemtnation for something I invented tomorrow?, and it's a wiki documenta way.
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Dan: it is a work in progress. Thank you for your point though. it is not permenant.
If it was perminant it would absoluly need documentation.

(argument insues briefly)

It is an experiment that is controversial.

J- it should probably be documented already even as a temperary setup.

Dan: X did lots of documentation for the cameras. look at the wiki if you want to. Please try if you want to. it definately crossed some lines. thank you. Thank you for your patience

https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?search=jitsi+hackitorium&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

pyconaut: James wanted a direct answer that's all. It is very important to poeple here. People were going to publish a post that said that noisebridge is 1984'd distopia.

J from some people's perspective it is good to have security for those that want it now, but I don't agree with haveing a camera in the space. I understand it is for now, but it is a fine line and we are right on the line right now. Many fought against it. Poeple have been thrown out for putting cameras in the space. It seems to be a form of security, but i don't think it is good. It might be turned against us.

?? I love having tape to put on cameras where I go. thanks for coming out and huge shout out to mark working in the middle of a meeting. I want to underscore this is for getting there. A year ago we had meetings in person without masks.

This testing of the servers and telepresence infrastructure is only doable to during the time

We can remotly disable all of these,

we are trying to test stuff while it dosent invade anyones privacy. I have be a big security activist, and am trying to figure this out to so that it meets everyones security concerns.

J- it is a fine line, and I am concerened
X- we recently used this setup to record a guide to use a new noisebridge tool that was donated.

Dan- Hearing the concerns by people like j who is concerned and wants to help set up the space. We need to make the current space meet their concerns and others and take them down.

J- I am more concerned about the larger community, and what this means for the people who are concerned.

X- The notes are a shorthand version of the exact things talked about during this meeting,

X- This server for the meeting has ETE encription and is running on a noisebrige computer in the space, and anyone who wants to know how it is working they can talk to X.

X- I plan to remotly hard shut down all the computers with cameras right after the meeting and they can only be turned on in the space.

Pyconaut- I think the gate camera should be left on for security?

X- We should also move off of windows and secure the drives with encription, for when we do record classes

Dan- I want to hear the concerns of others who would tell people to stop supporting noisebridge.

Pyconaut- I am sorry to any readers, as there were very useful things said that me and others could not write up in easily.

X- Noisebridge is still a do-ocracy and can be changed by the community.

J- I want to help out, what stuff need work.

X- we have not forgotten about security and privacy.

X- a new thing I am testing a is giant stop light in the rooms that have a camera that is running, and a two way mirror blocking the camera from viewing anything other then itself.

X- how can we make it easier for systems that teachers can just come in and use the systems. Or even remote into the systems to use for a class, or for someone remotly to control a computer in the space to help someone use that computer (home teacher, in person student)

X- We want to be able to meet everyones needs and everyones concerns, but this requires testing.

J- I want people to be able to easily come into the space, and be able to quickly start using the gear in the space.

J having a camera in the space changes the dynamic, I do not agree with the principles that we should have cameras in the space.

X- We have always had events in the space and many have been streamed, and people are made aware.

J- can we have a feed right at the enterance, can we make it even more transparent about what cameras are on.

Dan- How can we keep people from being unaware about the cameras.

J- People have also come to me with concerns about the cameras.

J- this will not be end of the conversation

X- This has been an experamental setup,,, and is constantly changing based on feedback.

Dan- This is where it starts, this is not the end all be all, we need to have this conversation continue.

Dan- We are still a community, and are havingissues seting up the new physical space, and the cameras have helped trememdously.

Question
Is the Jitsi machine accessible from .info?
jitsi.noisebridge.io (aka: Vbox on cia.noise)
NO, it's not on Unicorn, it's in the physical space and physically accessable

Pyconaut- These notes do not answer all the quesions perfectly, and some things might be confusing. If you still have concerns please let someone you trust know, if you want you can message me on slack, discord, or discuss.

Didn't ask about Jitsi for discussion item; just asking.
== Discussion Item 3 ==
[Question] are all of our meetings to be on this Jitsi moving forward?
Pyconaut- Yes it has been stable enough
- We should add the ability for users to phone in via SIP
- Also, we can use Mumble VOIP to greatly alleviate bandwidth concerns in Jitsi. It is already installed at mumble.noisebridge.info and allows users to silently listen / audio-only join en masse for the Jitsi calls. Supports vastly more people (hundreds), allows easy anonymous participation, push-to-talk, txt-to-speech, low latency and you can see live examples at mumble.jupiterbroadcasting.org which are used daily for podcasting with 50 - 100 people participating. Very similar to Discord in design.
- just needs to be setup to integrate into the Jitsi calls.

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes 2020 11 17

2020-11-18T07:36:14Z

Noisebridge VR:

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/972291454
*Call: ###-###-#### (TODO: [[User:🗄|Escritoire ala Secretary 🗄]] ([[User talk:🗄|talk]]) 07:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC))

* Date: November 17th MMXX
* Note-taker:
* Moderators: pyconaut

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

Dan- Participation at noisebridge is using the sppace and be excelent while using the space. This can be talking a class, teaching a class, helping others. Even though we are closed, we still have a lot of ways people can help out. Including volunteering to help build out the new space.

But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems-
noisebridge slack- ask around
noisebridge discuss https://discuss.noisebridge.info/
noisebridge wiki https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/
noisebridge meetup https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/
noisebridge discord- ask around
noisebridge maling list- being redevolped

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

Philathropist is someone who donates to noisebridge, often money ($40-$80)
You must be a trusted person in the community.
You have to have One big M Member sign off on you.
At a tuesday meeting it will be discussed, and you will be questioned.
you get 24/7 access.
It can be revoked by the community if you are shown to be unexcellent.
You need to know how to open the space, close the space, give tours, and explain what noisebridge is.

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we be placed on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present (or by proxy) decide if they want to block you or not, if no Member blocks your membership application you become a Member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. If you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue and then reapply at a later time.

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

Pyconaut- he/ him - Doing VR, starting to help more with build out, worried about covid safety, and space privacy.
Mark- Bellingham washington makerspace, like to make clothing, and doing glasswork, learning FPGA programming.
Relay- he / him- Playing on linux, likes useful scripts, helping install linux, enjoys youtube download, ffmpeg
Jay- messing around with music, visual art, and working, learning Sequl and processing, and Hydra,
Mentar- From UK, used to be member and trustee of the London Hackspace(partly based on noisebridge) likes ebike hacking, hydroponics, programming, AI and firmware
Dan- interested in neurosciecne, machine learning, computer sciences, and other cool stuff
James- owes J a birthday present, doing ffmpeg, used o live in bellingham
Potato head- I wanted to check about how someone applies for membership during COVID closure ?
Gwen- I am into tinyHome for housing on slack.
Yantra-
Carl- Software developer, lavalamp.app, does flashen taschen, just made plasmajs.com
20:38
devil
Hi I'm one of the b33f'y Gaming VR computers on wheels in the hackitorium, available for video conferencing and general collaboration, useful for monitoring the driveway when behind the "curtain"
20:57
upstairs
I'm the computer otherwise known as FAA, a small cube in the front upstairs overlooking the driveway
20:58
temple
Another Game VR super COVID cruncking folding box, useable for making distancing ttrainin

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

5mof coming up this week at 8 on our jitsi find out more at 5mof.net will be at jitsi.noisebridge.io/5mof

Our Secure Scuttlebutt Pub server is back online and open for invites. Enjoy a totally decentralized, e2e-encrypted, offline-first Social Network for introverts.
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Pub

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

none

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

none

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

Capacity Cap on Capp
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"

|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

|-
| November 17, 2020
| fnord
| Capacity Cap at 272 Capp Under Construction and Further Restrictions in this Time of Contagion
|
0) '''Respecting (recently updated) SF requirements relating to coronavirus pandemic''', Noisebridge is temporarily closed for "business as usual". Whatever details, safe to say for the foreseeable future: '''no in-person "events"''' (classes, tours, parties, etc). And most activities related to the buildout should probably hold off for now - let's stick to '''Minimum Basic Operations''' to be on the safe side. Take a break folks!

1) Going forward, '''limit number of people indoors''' at 272 Capp to '''3 downstairs and 3 upstairs''' - whenever knowledgeable volunteers can safely get back to work building out the new space. "Buddy System" to encourage effective social distancing, masks and like seriously - '''no more indoor dining ffs please enjoy your snacks and drinks outside thanks'''.

2) Knowledgeable Volunteers are encouraged to facilitate safe and productive use of the space. '''Knowledgeable Volunteers schedule work in advance and coordinate efforts as much as humanly possible.''' Knowledgeable Volunteers are best volunteers! Because they schedule in advance and don't mess around in the space too much! '''Knowledgeable Volunteers are welcome''' and will be supported in their relentless pursuit of excellence.

3) Prioritize some projects to safely open the the space for more participants, such as '''ventilation''' and making good use of the '''outdoor space'''. Allocate funds and '''encourage donations''' for these "phase zero" buildout expenses - for example might could '''budget $1000''' for some of the fans and shop stuff (tbd, not going crazy with stuff here but should arrange to expedite any necessary purchases in the interest of Moving the Project Forward). Basic safety equipment such as '''fire extinguishers and exit lighting must be deployed''' as well, prior to any other significant work being done by volunteers in the physical space.

4) Autoexpiration: Unless re-affirmed at a later date, these extraordinary restrictions should be considered '''obsolete by (at the latest) March 14th 2021''' - and open to reasonable modifications at any point as things change. Probably should refresh details and reconfirm relevance at least every month or so. And we can take it from there to increase capacity as conditions permit.

Anyway. This proposal for (formal) Consensus claims to reflect the current state of affairs and a rough consensus of volunteers working to build out the space. It's been going great so far and we'd like to keep it rocking - safely. Further suggestions, questions, support (and moar volunteers!) from the broader Noisebridge community would be most welcome at this point.
| fnord
|-

|}

Dan- It should be self explanatory as to why we need this.

Dan- any questions

Mark- Question- our makerspace up here in is open to 20%

Dan- SF is doing ok, but our area of the mission is at much higher risk. We also figured out that it is safer to just close down our space, and allow for slow build out instead of going overboard.

(new restrictions were just added by the governor of CA as of yesterday... should check on this to confirm)

Curtains- keep in mind we finished moving during covid two weeks ago, and are just now starting to refocus on build out of the space, so we still have to setup a space to open, and manage current reality
Only a couple people were able to help move at a time to our new space. Absolutely excellent people helped out. Many are burned out now. It is hard for our space to function in the way we wish it could.

not burned out yet, 9 years, 11 months and 20 something days to go, for 272 ;+) it's a marathon for us all if we are lucky, sprints welcomed with consensus building

Pyconaut- I agree with everything

Jay- What are state of classes

Dan- We are trying to do online classes. We are trying to start recording tool use guides for ou new tools in the space. But if we say we are teaching classes, we have to do a lot of paperwork to make the city OK us on taching classes. We should not be having even a single student class in thhe space.

Jay- What online classes are hapening
weekly meeting
accessabilty meetings
Circuit hacking monday

Dan- Any concers, power tripping, private use of space, what should change

Pyconaut- Still wondering about teachers using the space for remote classes, and events that were going to be in the space. Things like sewing area for sewing class, VR computer for teaching, audio area for ableton.

curtains - I want to come back to that safety bit, in telepresence, and using the space to hang out by yourself

Pyconaut- I think a mistake I have been making is eating whiel running a few of the online events and have not gone outside to eat. I don't think it sets a good example. I will probably stop eating at noisebridge or find a way to monitor stuff from outside.

Dan- Eating outside can be goten used to.

Pyconaut- if we even want to have teachers come in, we need more protective gear, so they feel safe. And more ventalation.

Pyconaut- no other comments?

James- what about re-writing the time line to be "re-consense after three months" instead of in 2021.

Dan - Sounds good

Pyconaut- No Member blocks it?

Pyconaut- I don't hear any blocks. This goes to next week..

Dan- Talk to people and find out if anyone wants any changes.

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===
Basic space safety (with limited use)
*Buddy System (+Virtual)
*PPE
**Mask, modified Respirators (moderate stock)
**Gloves (well stocked)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Sanitizer (NEED MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
**Wipes (MORE)
Pyconaut bringin more
*Distancing (Demonstration distancing marks needed)
*No indoor eating/drinking (Eat before/after visiting, use driveway/car)
Pyconaut - I will do better

=== Discussion Item 2 ===
Telepresence cameras
*Safety & Privacy
*Recording, re-broadcasting, scraping
*Access

Pyconaut - it was brought to my attention over the last couple weeks people have heard we have a jitsi server for NB always running with cameras connected. And people are concerned why are cameras connected and is there a danger of cameras recording / monitoring people. Where are the cameras? How easy are they to turn off?
Some context: we have been trying to setup telepresence in the space so people can take classes remotely - so we need telepresence setups in a couple classwrooms for when needed. We've set these up as testing instances. Monitor computer keyboard mouse and webcam are adequately labeled - easy to locate, none hidden - able to be turned off or on by any person in the space without much effort. Unclear if they can be turned on or off remotely. But the current use of them has mainly been during buildout to be a way of communicating between people seperated in different rooms - or to contact remote [advisors] for information about the space. For example when working on 3d printers or electronics room they can contact someone over jitsi to discuss what they need to do. This is important to communicate

Question:
Does the space include visible documentation on the cameras?
Is there a sign saying "Recording in Progress" or similar?

Pyconaut - yes but could be better. We could have bigger lighted signs indicating not only if jitsi is running on a computer, but also if camera or microphone is on. (Some systems run headless)

. Something like the ngalac has - a giant on-air button

Relay - are they constantly on?

You do see below..., could be, will be automated, dry erase and door glass for now.

Is it visibly clear which part of a room is being recorded via video? Example: step beyond this line and you are now live on the feed with chalk or crayon marks on the floor

Is it currently possible to opt out of being recorded in the space while in the space?
No, enter and you are recorded. Just clarifying. ;)

Is the external camera still that ring camera+light combo that was previously installed during move-in?

Theres a GIANT RED STOP LIGHT that says RECORDING, for potential of actual recording, and simpler signage for in house only could be added.

they are generally left on, staring at walls or cams (when the space is empty) and can be turned off physically and remotely
they've been on as much as possible to stress the system, not necessarily expected to be default mode long term

Where are the cameras located? (haven't been to capp to see; just write in below please).

Look at who's in this jitsi meetings, and the cameras that introduced themselves earlier. It changes constantlys depending on what if anything is happening, and who's comfortable with what level of activity.

J - are they always connected to the internet?

Pyconaut: Currently people who have been going to the space have been leaving them running. Possibly to help monitor gate etc. Any person in the space is able to turn off all of the telepresce setup

Dan- the setups are very obvious, and are connected to eachother (crazy echo). We know this can be very dagerous, but we are trying to be transparent, and trying to develop this so that it is safe, and will fix any issues.

James- Is it possible to opt out

Dan- absolutly

James- is there any way to opt out while entering the space

THERE IS NO RECORDING IN THE SPACE BY DEFAULT. You have to go in to a closed room and step in front a live camera. Does not cover what others who have access to the space physical or virtual want to do as well.

Pyconaut- we do have a gate camera that is always running, and has not been put offline as we do not have a gate system up yet.

J- it is importaint to have a outdoor looking camera. But I dont think we should have any remotly accessable cameras that are online all the time, and could theoretiaccly be recorded by third parties.

You walk by several ring cameras on the way to capp st by the way if you aren't really really careful.

But, do we still also have the ring camera outside? Or a different camera?

we havern't identfied who's property is, it's pointed at the sky with tape over it and isn't actively connected. (thanks)

The driveway is also streaming, and has currently joined the jitsi (upstairs)

Relay- In the moment people could record very easily, includen what we are doing right now. this is public right now, as it is a meeting. But also while noisebridge is closed it seems like a good time to test these things, and that we will change them when we open.

J- how transparent is enough, and

How do you create instruction and classes without recording with a camera, for virtual out of space experience?

Mark is awesome right not making clothes on their home camera.

Pyconaut- I think there's been a lot of good questions. What? Oh. Yeah. Okay.
There's a few comments ... Another thing there are cameras on quite a few buildings near noisebridge so we could make a map where the cameras are in the neighborhood for people
coming to visit.

Could we put a button near the front door for people to turn off cameras when they come in

rasperry pi telepresense with a button that can sever everything when pressed.

put them in physical space. that way they can hit the button and turn off the jitsi instances other than i think the front gate secure, we should leave the one in the front open i dont' think it is being recorded. it is important to be able to make sure that nobody is trying to break in (it already happened)

Dan: im getting tired. Big picture words.

Dan- I completly agree with J and Relay, I am fed up with cameras especially what happened at thhe old space. We are currently doing this testing because noisebridge is closed, and is the only time we can test it. what matters is who is actually coming to the space's opinion.

Pyconaut: i think that we do have a group of people worried about not being able to enter the space securely. we should be able to accomodate those that want to come in not being recorded and let them in without being recorded. the person that lets them in can turn off the cameras. if people want to let us know when they are coming and they want no recording we'll turn them off.

Anyone present have an issue coming to the space with everything they've just heard?

I have been at the space for 100's of hours testing camera settings, and haven't had any issues that could not be reasonably accomidated.

It's been discussed in several meetings which has been re-discussed in other forums. This is also new and being documented as developed.

Question
James- Is documentation of our Capp location cameras publicly posted on the wiki or forum or mailing list?

we should make a wiki page for the telepresense that has not been updated with this new stuff. we don't have the locations up to date. none of them have a password. all are ascessable from the inside. One of the machine's password is ***************. X probaly knows the status and software of these computers.

How easy is it to do stuff? we want to make sure no keyloggers are on the system and sniffers. SOme unexcellent people did that in the past. we should make our system more secure. Some poeple did that to the VR earlier and made things unexcellent.

Then you all seriously need to stop using Windows on everything

Wait are their hackers at hackerspaces!? iz late, get'n later, ya'll want a show or what?

Dan: the monitoring of surveilence might be something to be concerned.

James:: there is no docuemtnation for something I invented tomorrow?, and it's a wiki documenta way.
\
Dan: it is a work in progress. Thank you for your point though. it is not permenant.
If it was perminant it would absoluly need documentation.

(argument insues briefly)

It is an experiment that is controversial.

J- it should probably be documented already even as a temperary setup.

Dan: X did lots of documentation for the cameras. look at the wiki if you want to. Please try if you want to. it definately crossed some lines. thank you. Thank you for your patience

https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?search=jitsi+hackitorium&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

pyconaut: James wanted a direct answer that's all. It is very important to poeple here. People were going to publish a post that said that noisebridge is 1984'd distopia.

J from some people's perspective it is good to have security for those that want it now, but I don't agree with haveing a camera in the space. I understand it is for now, but it is a fine line and we are right on the line right now. Many fought against it. Poeple have been thrown out for putting cameras in the space. It seems to be a form of security, but i don't think it is good. It might be turned against us.

?? I love having tape to put on cameras where I go. thanks for coming out and huge shout out to mark working in the middle of a meeting. I want to underscore this is for getting there. A year ago we had meetings in person without masks.

This testing of the servers and telepresence infrastructure is only doable to during the time

We can remotly disable all of these,

we are trying to test stuff while it dosent invade anyones privacy. I have be a big security activist, and am trying to figure this out to so that it meets everyones security concerns.

J- it is a fine line, and I am concerened
X- we recently used this setup to record a guide to use a new noisebridge tool that was donated.

Dan- Hearing the concerns by people like j who is concerned and wants to help set up the space. We need to make the current space meet their concerns and others and take them down.

J- I am more concerned about the larger community, and what this means for the people who are concerned.

X- The notes are a shorthand version of the exact things talked about during this meeting,

X- This server for the meeting has ETE encription and is running on a noisebrige computer in the space, and anyone who wants to know how it is working they can talk to X.

X- I plan to remotly hard shut down all the computers with cameras right after the meeting and they can only be turned on in the space.

Pyconaut- I think the gate camera should be left on for security?

X- We should also move off of windows and secure the drives with encription, for when we do record classes

Dan- I want to hear the concerns of others who would tell people to stop supporting noisebridge.

Pyconaut- I am sorry to any readers, as there were very useful things said that me and others could not write up in easily.

X- Noisebridge is still a do-ocracy and can be changed by the community.

J- I want to help out, what stuff need work.

X- we have not forgotten about security and privacy.

X- a new thing I am testing a is giant stop light in the rooms that have a camera that is running, and a two way mirror blocking the camera from viewing anything other then itself.

X- how can we make it easier for systems that teachers can just come in and use the systems. Or even remote into the systems to use for a class, or for someone remotly to control a computer in the space to help someone use that computer (home teacher, in person student)

X- We want to be able to meet everyones needs and everyones concerns, but this requires testing.

J- I want people to be able to easily come into the space, and be able to quickly start using the gear in the space.

J having a camera in the space changes the dynamic, I do not agree with the principles that we should have cameras in the space.

X- We have always had events in the space and many have been streamed, and people are made aware.

J- can we have a feed right at the enterance, can we make it even more transparent about what cameras are on.

Dan- How can we keep people from being unaware about the cameras.

J- People have also come to me with concerns about the cameras.

J- this will not be end of the conversation

X- This has been an experamental setup,,, and is constantly changing based on feedback.

Dan- This is where it starts, this is not the end all be all, we need to have this conversation continue.

Dan- We are still a community, and are havingissues seting up the new physical space, and the cameras have helped trememdously.

Question
Is the Jitsi machine accessible from .info?
jitsi.noisebridge.io (aka: Vbox on cia.noise)
NO, it's not on Unicorn, it's in the physical space and physically accessable

Pyconaut- These notes do not answer all the quesions perfectly, and some things might be confusing. If you still have concerns please let someone you trust know, if you want you can message me on slack, discord, or discuss.

Didn't ask about Jitsi for discussion item; just asking.
== Discussion Item 3 ==
[Question] are all of our meetings to be on this Jitsi moving forward?
Pyconaut- Yes it has been stable enough
- We should add the ability for users to phone in via SIP
- Also, we can use Mumble VOIP to greatly alleviate bandwidth concerns in Jitsi. It is already installed at mumble.noisebridge.info and allows users to silently listen / audio-only join en masse for the Jitsi calls. Supports vastly more people (hundreds), allows easy anonymous participation, push-to-talk, txt-to-speech, low latency and you can see live examples at mumble.jupiterbroadcasting.org which are used daily for podcasting with 50 - 100 people participating. Very similar to Discord in design.
- just needs to be setup to integrate into the Jitsi calls.

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes Template

2020-11-18T04:20:59Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Jitsi:https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium

* Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE
* Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
* Moderators: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''

(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

* Person1 - she/her - something i do
* Person2 - they/them - first time here, hello
* and so on

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

Examples
* Chuck: Starting a new class on Thursday nights called Let's Fight About Category Theory. 9pm. BYO Whiteboard Markers.
* Roxy: One night only discussion on Puppet Feminism coming up this Saturday at 8pm. No fetish gear, please.
* Albert: I'm taking a long bike ride next week and drinking some stuff I accidentally came up with while making tea in the back. Must sign waiver to join.

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===

=== Discussion Item 2 ===

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meetings

2020-11-18T03:30:28Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{meetings}}
{{box}}
'''We meet ''almost'' every Tuesday at 8:00 PM/20:00 US/Pacific at [[Getting Here|2169 Mission St., San Francisco]]''' and on [[Jitsi]] live-streaming using [[Pad]] note-taking.

''Almost'' every week, Noisebridge meets to discuss issues relevant to our community. The meeting is for members and non-members alike: everyone is welcome. At Meetings you can introduce yourself, apply to [[joining|join]] Noisebridge, bring up discussion topics, and debate [[consensus]] proposals.
{{boxend}}

Agenda items tend to typically include introductions, updates on projects happening in the space, upcoming events, and active discussion of decisions that most impact both the Noisebridge space as well as its visitors. Meetings normally end with general socializing and separate discussion of any topics brought up earlier. If you have a topic that you'd like to discuss at next week's meeting, you are entirely welcome to add it to the [[Next_meeting|agenda]].

Meetings -- like all things -- at Noisebridge operate by [[consensus]]. If you've never witnessed consensus in action, you will probably find your first meeting much less perplexing by reviewing and getting an essential grasp of our [[Consensus Process|consensus process]] beforehand.

* '''Make sure''' to look at [[meeting instructions]]! These contain the agenda, and plenty of tips for making things run smoothly.

* Please be aware that Regular Members may or may '''not''' decide to attend any particular meeting at their own discretion and/or as their schedules permit.

= Livestream =
Meetings are held by live stream at the [https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium Jitsi stream].

= Meeting Notes =

At every meeting, someone takes notes so that we have some idea what's happened. [[Secretaribot]] should do this automatically, but if there isn't a page for next week's meeting, ''Use the [[Meeting Notes Template]] to create a new agenda for next week.''

* Previous meeting notes: [[Last_meeting]]
* Next meeting agenda:
* ... (more in the [[:Category:Meeting Notes|Meeting Notes Archive]])

Meetings

2020-11-18T03:30:01Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{meetings}}
{{box}}
'''We meet ''almost'' every Tuesday at 8:00 PM/20:00 US/Pacific at [[Getting Here|2169 Mission St., San Francisco]]''' and on [[Jitsi]] live-streaming using [[Pad]] note-taking.

''Almost'' every week, Noisebridge meets to discuss issues relevant to our community. The meeting is for members and non-members alike: everyone is welcome. At Meetings you can introduce yourself, apply to [[joining|join]] Noisebridge, bring up discussion topics, and debate [[consensus]] proposals.
{{boxend}}

Agenda items tend to typically include introductions, updates on projects happening in the space, upcoming events, and active discussion of decisions that most impact both the Noisebridge space as well as its visitors. Meetings normally end with general socializing and separate discussion of any topics brought up earlier. If you have a topic that you'd like to discuss at next week's meeting, you are entirely welcome to add it to the [[Next_meeting|agenda]].

Meetings -- like all things -- at Noisebridge operate by [[consensus]]. If you've never witnessed consensus in action, you will probably find your first meeting much less perplexing by reviewing and getting an essential grasp of our [[Consensus Process|consensus process]] beforehand.

* '''Make sure''' to look at [[meeting instructions]]! These contain the agenda, and plenty of tips for making things run smoothly.

* Please be aware that Regular Members may or may '''not''' decide to attend any particular meeting at their own discretion and/or as their schedules permit.

= Livestream =
Meetings are held by live stream at the [jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium Jitsi stream].

= Meeting Notes =

At every meeting, someone takes notes so that we have some idea what's happened. [[Secretaribot]] should do this automatically, but if there isn't a page for next week's meeting, ''Use the [[Meeting Notes Template]] to create a new agenda for next week.''

* Previous meeting notes: [[Last_meeting]]
* Next meeting agenda:
* ... (more in the [[:Category:Meeting Notes|Meeting Notes Archive]])

Category:Events

2020-11-18T03:12:28Z

Noisebridge VR: /* Upcoming Events edit */

{{events}}

{{boxstart}}
Official, Semi-Official, one-off and other events at the Noisebridge space.
{{boxend}}

= '''''THIS EVENTS LISTING MAY BE OUT OF DATE''''' =

Please also check our [https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/ Noisebridge Meetup page] (https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge) to avoid scheduling conflicts.,

=Event Calendar=



<onlyinclude>

'''''Not all events make it onto this calendar.''' And some of the listings here may be out of date.'' 
Many events only make it to the [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/ Discussion] or [https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-announce/ Announcements] mailing lists, [[IRC]], our '''[https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/ Noisebridge Meetup page <https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge>]''', or in person at [[Meetings | Tuesday meetings]]. Best of all, Noisebridge is about people getting together at the space in San Francisco to do stuff. DO pay attention, as some eventSs just arise organically from the bottom up!

'''Want to host your event at Noisebridge?''' We like seeing classes and talks on interesting things pertaining to various subjects of hacking. Most of all, we like seeing familiar faces. Please participate in the space and our [[Meetings|weekly Tuesday meetings]] to see if we're the right audience for what you want to share before announcing a new event. Additionally, please see our [[Hosting an Event|events hosting page]] for suggestions on how to use Noisebridge for your event/class/workshop.

'''Resources For Hosting Events'''
*[[Hosting an Event]]
*[[:Category:Events Support|Events Support]]


 
 

=== Upcoming Events [https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Category:Events&action=edit&section=3 edit] ===








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=== Recurring Events [https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Category:Events&action=edit&section=4 edit] ===
 
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'''--COVID-19 UPDATE--''' ==
 
Noisebridge is closed right now (for saftey, following the Governer's order) but many classes are '''still happening online'''! Come check out the [https://discuss.noisebridge.info/ new discuss forum] and connect with us to check out [https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/classes/29 cool new classes]
 


{{Template:Recurring}} - Every week. 
{{Template:RecurringNumbered|1st}} - Certain weeks, e.g. 1st week only. 
{{Template:RecurringException|-2nd}} - Except certain weeks, or other schedule exceptions.

==== Mondays ====
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''[[House_Keeping#Trash_and_Recycling|Take Out the Trash Night]]''' - Be sure to put bins out by midnight as the trash truck comes between 1:30 to 2:30am.

* 3rd Mondays is the original '''[https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/circuit-hacking-mondays-meeting-link/1832 Circuit Hacking Mondays]'''. Learn to solder! And make cool things with electronics. People can bring kits-for-purchase to make cool, hackable things for all skill levels that you can bring home after you make them! Many designed for '''absolute beginners'''! Bring your own projects to hack! Bring things to fix! All ages. All are welcome! See the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss Discuss list] and the [https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-announce Announce list] for weekly updates.

* {{Template:Recurring}} <strike>7:00 pm to 9:00 pm '''[[PyClass|Intermediate Python with PyClass]]''' - Crash course in the Python standard library. Monday session is held in Church Classroom.</strike>

==== ''Super'' Tuesdays! ====

* {{Template:Recurring}} '''8:00 pm [[Meetings|Noisebridge Weekly Meeting]]''' - Introducing new people and events to the space, general discussion, and decision-making on key issues. '''This is your space, folks. Come on out here in person to express what you think about what's going on with it!'''
*{{Template:Recurring}} <strike>'''11am to 6pm [[freeCodeCamp|freeCodeCamp Workshop]]''' - Come code with us! Learn full stack web development with JavaScript, HTML, CSS. Everyone is welcome!</strike>

==== Wednesdays ====
* {{Template:Recurring}} <strike>'''3:00 pm to 7:00 pm - [https://gitlab.com/BerniceChua/Whiteboarding_And_Algorithms_Workshop_-_Wednesday_Edition#whiteboarding-and-algorithms-workshop-wednesday-edition Whiteboarding & Algorithms Workshop - Wednesday Edition]''' - Let's practice whiteboarding, algorithms, and other interviewing techniques together!! =D This event will be in the Hackitorium!! ^_^ (This is also a support group for job</strike>
* {{Template:Recurring}} ''' 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm [[DreamTeam| Dream Team Neuro Hackery]] (in an abundance of coronavirus caution - on Hiatus until Further Notice) ''' - EEG research & development project with general interest in sleep, dreaming, creative intelligence, and many loosely related topics such as: neurophysiology, signal processing, cognitive neuroscience, and (especially) hacking code and devices for data acquisition and analysis. Join us at the [[CollaborationStation]] (near the Hackatorium). Expect general discussion around 8 PM - usually moving along by 9 PM to focus on more technical aspects of current project.
* {{Template:Recurring}} <strike>'''8:00 pm to 11:00 pm [[Gamebridge|Gamebridge Unityversity Digital Art Wednesdays]]''' - Beginner-friendly game development class and meetup, learn and share 2D/3D art. We will explore a variety of tools and techniques for digital visual art creation. Learn how to mentor and help teach game dev. (@ the Noise Square Table).</strike>

==== Thursdays ====
* {{Template:Recurring}} [[House_Keeping#Trash_and_Recycling|Trash Night -- Round Two]] - Take out the trash for Friday morning! Do it by midnight as truck comes ~1:30am to 2:30am.
* {{Template:RecurringNumbered|3rd}}{{Template:Recurring}} '''8:00 pm to 9:00pm [[Five Minutes of Fame]]''' a.k.a. 5MoF - Ten 5min talks in an hour, on any topic on the 3rd Thursday of the month.
* {{Template:RecurringNumbered|last}}{{Template:Recurring}} <strike>'''6:00 PM – 9:00 PM -- Queer Game Dev Meetup (QGDM)''' in the Noisebridge HackItorium -- ''Come check out the next Queer Game Dev Meetup, in the Mission District in San Francisco. Here you will find other queer game devs, game-making enthusiasts, and be a part of an inclusive community that welcomes everyone who is interested in creating games. With language support in English, Español, and Português!''</strike>

==== Fridays ====

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* {{Template:Recurring}} ''' 7:00 pm to 8:00 am ''' Hacknights happens every friday rain or shine, its the magical night when Noisebridge is open to the public ALL NIGHT LONG!! Meet in [[Hackitorium]] RSVP by following this link https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/254878863/
* {{Template:Recurring}}''' 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm [[Technology]] & [[Computerology]] & [[Systemology]] ''' --- [[Technology]]: The study of creating, use, evolution and history of things. [[Computerology]]: The study of computers, or any kind of work with computers; computing. [[Systemology]]: The study and evolution of systems.
* {{Template:Recurring}} ''' 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm [[FUN Tutoring]] ''' in [[Church]] or [[CollaborationStation]]
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==== Saturdays ====

==== Sundays ====
* {{Template:Recurring}} From Hack to Cash!
'''7pm - 8:15pm Sunday''' 
Monetizing and crowdfunding your next project! 
Taught by Kobby, a successful CEO and electronics hobbyiest who raised >$130K via kickstarter. 
More info [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VmlZqjJcorRV_zi2i0wZxacjU9jeU_DrZFc4JhhiEbQ/edit here].

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If you'd like to contact somebody at Noisebridge regarding these Events or even the Noisebridge Wiki itself, then please send an email message to one of the Board members listed in the [[Contacts]] list, e.g., <secretary@noisebridge.net> or <treasurer@noisebridge.net>

=== Orphaned Events ===
These events appear to be dormant or extinct.

*{{Template:Recurring}} '''7:00 pm to 8:30 pm [https://github.com/maniqin/noisebridge_sql Noisebridge SQL Class]''' - Wondering why SQL is so popular and used even though it has been around for decades? Come find out @ Noisebridge SQL class! This class is an intro / intermediate level class on SQL—the backbone language to any relational database around. ([[Church]] classroom).

* SAT 10:15 - 12:10 [[Juggling with Judy!]] Note: next class is scheduled for Saturday June 29th. Attention juggling fans! Judy will be at the 2013 World Juggling Day celebration Saturday June 15th at Ripley's Believe It Or Not Odditorium in San Francisco Fisherman's Warf - free event begins at 1. Come check it out!
* THU 18:00 - 21:00 '''[[Privacy Bay]]''' - A monthly meetup for Bay Area folks interested in privacy. Meets in Church on the last Thursday of the month.
* FRI 19:00 - 21:00 [[Anarchy_101|Anarchy 101]] - a class/seminar on what anarchy is and is not, and how it impacts us as individuals and as discrete groups.
* 20:00 - 22:00 [[Noise~_Wednesday | Noise~ Wed]] - Graphical media programming with Max/MSP/Jitter
* 19:00 [[Tahoe-LAFS]] - Occasional meetup of users and/or developers of the Least Authority File System.
* 14:00 - 16:00 Android Developer Support Group - Meet up with other app developers in the library for a lightly structured knowledge-share.
* {{Template:Recurring}} '''5:00 pm to 7:30 pm [[Songbridge|Songbridge Music Making Tuesdays]]''' - Beginner-friendly music making and mentoring meetup with Ableton/GarageBand/Logic tutorials for beginners and peer collabs. ([[Noise Square Table]]).

OrphanSed as of 2017-10-31:
* (Wednesday) {{Template:Recurring}} 2:00 pm to 3:30 pm Build a Solar Lab Kit with SpyCamp - Starting June 14th to August 16th, at 2:00pm sharp Natalie (errcat) will be leading a solar charger kit lab for kids! Friends and family are invited to come with their kids and build a solar charger along side kids from SpyCamp. Kits are sold at the door for 20 dollars for whoever wishes to participate (5 dollars from each kit are donated to Noisebridge).
* (Wednesday) {{Template:RecurringException|alternating monthly}} 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm - '''[[Cyberspectrum|Cyberspectrum: Software Defined Radio Meetup]]''' in the Hackatorium(''new''): A place to learn and exchange ideas about SDR. Presentations on concepts, mystery signals, hardware/software and cool applications. Event alternates monthly between SF and the South Bay.
* (Wednesday) {{Template:RecurringNumbered|1st}} Wednesday of every month, 7:30-9. '''[[with Software; Art()]]''' Present your personal and expressive art made with software/hardware of your own making and get feedback and critical dialogue from fellow artist/technologists. ON HIATUS TILL OCTOBER! [Last updated August 2, 201S7].
* (Wednesday) {{Template:Recurring}} 7:30 pm to 9:00 pm - Career Change: How to kickstart your new career in web development
* (Thursday) {{Template:Recurring}} 7:30 pm to 10:00 pm The [[Go]] group meets up on Wednesdays and Thursdays to play.
* (Sunday) {{Template:Recurring}} 3:00 pm [[Go]] - Playing of the Go board game. On nice days we often take the boards to Dolores Park and play there.
* (Sunday) {{Template:Recurring}} 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm .impact Workathons in Turing classrom. Work on projects that will help humanity & beyond.

=== Proposed Future Events and Classes ===
:'''(TBD)''': [[Audio Show and Tell]] Let's meetup this November 19th, Sunday at noon in the Hackitorium to share our audio projects for an hour! Bring your project/art, hardware or software ...if interested contact and confirm you can attend michael@kzsu.stanford.edu
:'''(TBD)''': [[Sound Science]] A potential monthly lecture/demonstration series on the little known science behind sound reproductionTopics to include: Transducer Physics(speakers and mics), Room Acoustics, Signal Path and Cabling,Loudspeaker design 101, Music Production Tips for Big Sound, and How to make a small system sound SHUGEEach session to include hands on projects like making speakers from stuff lying around, Non-Newtonian bass monsters, and ez speaker mods for anyoneIf interested contact the new guy-> MattLong8 at gmail dot com, 805 four five three - six zero nine seven
:'''(TBD)''': [[Modular Synthesis]] a bi-weekly (or monthly) group devoted to modular synthesizers> workshop will include modular sound synthesis styles and techniques, a study of different modules and their functions, ie voltage controlled oscillator, voltage controlled filter, low frequency oscillator, envelope generator ect and how these modules interact with each other, what control voltage and triggers are..... as well as one on one time for each student with the modular, which is a 60 space large format Moog style modular synthesizer with big knobs and 1/4 jacks including performance and other awesomeness by Douglas. contact Douglas at greenshoos at gmail dotcom
:'''(TBD)''': [[VideoHacking]] a weekly video/video art devoted hacker group, including experiments in the 3D vr realm...if interested contact julialc4@gmail.com
:Wednesdays at 21:00 [[Brewing Bridge]] - Malakkar Proposal: Learn how to make your drinks fun AND antibacterial, using yeastThis will be recurring if enough interest or need is presentAssociated items - what to do with brewing leftovers, and brewers sample hour, etc.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Probability]] - Weekly probability study group based on [http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electSrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-041-probabilistic-systems-analysis-and-applied-probability-spring-2006/related-resources/ Fundamentals of Applied Probability Theory] by Al Drake
:'''(TBD)''': [[Mandarin Corner|Mandarin]] - Learn or practice Mandarin, all levels. Also currently on hiatus. Get on the mailing list.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Movie Night!]] - [[User:ThOMG|Thom]] wants to build community through nerdy sci-fi! (+Bill+Ted+Excellence++) (how about a Friday hacker movie night? -[[User:Carl|Carl]])
:'''(TBD)''': [[Introduction to the AVR Microcontroller]] - [[User:Mightyohm|Jeff]] and [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]] are planning an introductory class for people wanting to make cool projects with AVRs.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Basic Chemistry Lab Techniques]]
:'''(TBD)''': [[Cuddle Puddle for the Economy]] - Stress-hacking with informal massage exchange.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Milk and Cookies]] - Come read your favorite selections out loud With Milk and Cookies (and yeah, probably beer too).
:'''(TBD)''': [[Processing Workshop 2]] - [[User:Scmurray|Scott]] is interested in teaching this, and is busy thinking about what, where, when, why, and how.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Hack your Hardware]] -- We call BS on "no user-serviceable parts inside"
:'''(TBD)''': [[Homebrew Instruction Class]] - The Wort (pt 1/3)
:'''(TBD)''': [[Trip to Shooting Range]] - Field trip to a shooting range, to shoot guns Express interest at [[Trip to Shooting Range]]
:'''(TBD)''': [[Surface Mount Soldering Workshop]] - Learn how to solder cicuits with small surface mount parts [[User:maltman23|Mitch Altman]] and Martin Bogomolni and others will show their tricks [[User:maltman23|Mitch]] will bring hackable kits that uses surface mounts for you to solder<-YES! (mattlong8 at gmail dot com)
:'''(TBD)''' - [[Locksport and Lockpicking]]Turing
:'''(TBD)''' - [[Version control tutorial]]
:'''(TBD)''' - [[Foreign language learning for rocket scientists]] - I'm near-native (fool people when I try) in (French and) Japanese, and a pro trans/terpreter and will share my shortcuts (skill-order, vocab, speed/articulation, translation≅grammar) No expertise on tonal languages yet..so if you know how to remember tones or how tone-sandhi interacts with speed and/or how nuances of speaker attitude are expressed in them (what we do with rythm/inflection/sentence-intonation and stress in Eng., and with particles and ??? in e.g. Cantonese) please chime in or call me (415-608-0564) so I can convey your wisdom [also looking for a from-scratch Arabic partner]
:'''(TBD)''': [[Getting started with Arduino]]
:'''(TBD)''': [[Distributed Databases]]
:'''(TBD)''': [[Node.js Beginners Session]] - Interested in learning about Node.js? I amMaybe these guys want to teach it: http://www.meetup.com/Joyent-Butt-User-Group/events/81311542/

:'''(TBD)''': [[Scrum Club]] - I though I'd test the waters and see if anyone was interested in a noisebridge scrum club details are here http://scrumclub.org/scrum-clubs/ if inturested hit me up twitter: @theabcasian, facebook: http://www.facebook.com/theabcasian
:'''(TBD)''': [[CNC Mill Workshop]] - Who wants to make stuff on the [[MaxNCMill]]?
:'''(TBD)''': [[Math & Science Help]] - If you would like some math, science or engineering help, I'm down to lend a hand.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Cyborg Group|Cyborg Group / Sensebridge]] - Work on projects like artificial senses Someone needs to lead this!
:'''(TBD)''': [[OpenEEG]] - Brain techHas historically met on Sundays, at the behest of interested parties.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Programming_for_Poets | Programming for Poets]] - Gentle intro to programming using Processing
:'''(TBD)''': [[World Builders & Simgineers]] - Work together to create a beautiful & open virtual world & platform.
:'''(TBD)''': [[PlunderBridge]] - Metal detecting, detector technology & treasure hunting expeditions.
:'''(TBD)''': [[Ruby Mining]] - Ruby on Rails basics, interactive working group
:'''(TBD)''': [[MoinMoin Wiki]] - MoinMoin Wiki (details see there)
:'''(TBD)''': [[Noisebridge Fundraiser 2013]]

= Past Events =
===2019===
*{{event
|time = Friday, February 22, 2019, 19:00
|title = [[Noisebridge_Gaming_Archivists|Road Rash 2]]
|description = Friday, February 22, 2019, 19:00 -- Come play Road Rash 2 with the Noisebridge Gaming Archivists live on NGALAC or watch us online at twitch.tv/noisebridge.
}}

*{{event
|time = Friday, January 25, 2019, 5:00pm
|title = Global Game Jam 2019
|description = Friday, January 25, 2019, 5:00pm to Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/257921084/
}}
 

===2018===
*{{event
|time = Friday, January 26, 2018, 5:00pm
|title = Global Game Jam 2018
|description = Friday, January 26, 2018, 5:00pm to Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/246695235/
}}
 

===2017===
*{{event
|time = Saturday, September 09, 2017, 10:00am
|title = Noisebridge 10 Year Anniversary Exhibition and Ball
|description = Saturday, September 09, 2017, 10:00am to Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:00pm -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/241834198/; and Tuesday, September 12th, 8:00pm for the special guest event -- https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/243097404/
}}
 

===2016===
*{{event
|time = Saturday, June 18th, 2016, 1pm
|title = Noisebridge picnic-potluck gathering 1pm-3pm
|description = Bring #{food, drink} whatever you want to share, potluck style! All Noisebridge folks and friends are welcome! Let's leave from NB 15min before or meet under the palm trees, South-East corner of Dolores Park near the Playground (20th & Church) in San Francisco, CA 94114: https://goo.gl/maps/8jmcnCMayoD2
}}
 
{{event
|time = Saturday, May 28th, 2016, 1pm
|title = Noisebridge picnic-potluck gathering 1pm-3pm
|description = Bring #{food, drink} whatever you want to share, potluck style! All Noisebridge folks and friends are welcome! Let's meet under the palm trees, South-East corner of Dolores Park near the Playground (20th & Church) in San Francisco, CA 94114: https://goo.gl/maps/8jmcnCMayoD2
}}
 
{{event
|time = Thursday, February 25th, 2016, 7pm
|title = SF Amateur Mathematicians
|description = Differential Geometry and Wide-Angle Photography with Chad Fong. In Church Room. See [http://www.meetup.com/SF-Amateur-Mathematicians/events/228761849/ Meetup page]. SF Amateur Mathematicians is a math club open to everyone interested in learning more about math. Topics and talks generally assume some collegiate mathematical background.
}}
 
{{event
|time = Sunday, February 7th, 2016, 11:00am
|title = HackTheLeft
|description = [[HackTheLeft|Hack the Left]] is an ''anticapitalist'' hackathon, going on for the entire long weekend of February 5th-7th at Noisebridge. This is an experiment to see what happens when you get a bunch of leftists in a room for a weekend with the intention to advance liberatory and ''anticapitalist'' projects using technology. This includes software projects like Tor and Signal, art projects like the Anti-Eviction Mapping Project and Men in Grey, hardware projects like mesh networks and signal jammers, and tools for rad organizations like Anti Police-Crimethink Project and Food Not Bombs. It's clear that there's a huge amount of opportunity for liberatory technology. It's up to us to build it. 

*Hackathon participants should be able to get into Noisebridge by [[Hours | its 11:00 AM opening hour]], if not earlier, for both weekend days.
}}

===2014===
*{{event
|time = Sunday, September 23, 5:00pm
|title = How to Start a Startup MOOC Lecture Viewings
|description = We would get together to watch the lectures together and conduct discussion and networking afterwards. http://startupclass.samaltman.com/
|}}

===2013===
*{{event
|time = Friday, August 9, 5:00pm
|title = Noisebridge Party Setup
|description = Volunteers will be preparing the space for Saturday's show. There are no scheduled conflicts; you might be asked to move multiple times by someone pushing a broom and assembling a raised stage simultaneously.
|}}

*{{event
|time = Saturday, August 10, 4:00pm
|title = Noisebridge "______ the Bridge" Party
|description = a summer fundraising party for Noisebridge, which YOU are invited to!
|suggested donation = $10, but no one turned away for lack of funds
|}}

*{{event
|time = Sunday, August 11, 2:00pm
|title = Bay Area Hackers' Association Meeting
|description = Jon Callas presenting on [[BAHA/2013-08-11|Secure Communications, Privacy, Counter-Surveillance]].
|}}

* '''Wednesday, May 22, 7.00 pm: Instructables Build Night''' - Bare Conductive, Instructables will supply Bare Conductive paint pens and pizza. Come experiment with the paint and post some Instructables. This is a FREE event.

===2012===
* '''December 20, Thursday, 20:00 - 22:00 - [[5MoF|5 Minutes of Fame]]''' - Following up on its triumphant return in November, 5MoF is back with another showcase of lightning talks & other good stuff, with your host Sir Danny O'Brien! Details TBA
*'''Tuesday Feb14th, 18:00 to 20:00''' ZiP MegaZine releases its inaugural issue with '''My Noisy Valentine''' Zine Release Microparty in the Noisebridge cafeFor more info follow [[zine | this]] link.
* '''Wednesday, Jan30, 20:00-22:00''' [[zine|ZiP]] meeting for zine-makers & others with an interest in printing & self-publishingThe meeting 1/30/13 is our first since mid-2012We plan to hold them regularly from now on at this time (Wednesday 8pm)This meeting will be informal & will probably take place in the printing/lasercutter area of the hackerspace.

===2011===

* '''September 11th 14:00 to 17:00''' - The San Francisco Chapter of the Open Organisation Of Lockpickers and Bay Area Hacker's Association present a joint meeting on [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Locksport locksport]
*'''August 4, 7PM, Thursday''' - [http://zeidman.net Bob Zeidman] will be giving a talk on video games and intellectual property, hosted by TheMADEHe will also speak about IP infringement cases.
*'''August 9, 6:30PM, Tuesday''' - [http://www.meetup.com/makesf/events/26413241/ Make:SF] - Chris Jefferies will speak about the wireless sensor kit he is developing and we are brinunderstanding and using computersging back our all star soldering kits.

* '''April 13th, 19:00''' - Kombucha fermentation class with [[BioBridge]]
*'''April 7th, 20:00''' - [[In-Depth|Noisebridge: In-Depth]] Our monthly lecture and round tableThis month's speaker will be Aragorn! his lecture will be "Anarchism & technology: An unbridgeable chasm"
*'''April 4th, 20:00''' - Camp KDE PartyCome and meet part of the KDE North America community and get a quick overview of this year's [http://camp.kde.org/ Camp KDE] conferenceThere will be beer
*'''April 3rd, 16:00''' - NoiseCaching: Meet-up to build some geocaches, and talk about making geocoinsThen we'll head out to find some local caches and place caches we made[http://www.geocaching.com More info about Geocaching here]
* '''March 20th, 19:00''' [[Hack Politics]] meetup -- the first meetup to figure out how we in the hacker community can effectively mobilize and create meaningful change in these interesting times
* '''March 12th, 12:00-18:00 - Noisebridge Hackathon!''' Second Saturday Hackathon is a casual monthly event dedicated to working on the space or relevant projects and building community This is a great time to get feedback or help on any projects you have been considering that center around the space, culture, and infrastructure of Noisebridge You can also help with existing projects and find out ways to get involved.
* '''March 10, Thursday, 19:00 - Group Grammar Clinic''' - Church Classroom - Donations gladly accepted - A clinic for grammar and writing evaluationPlease bring your web/social or technical writing for us to evaluateBring your laptop as well Collaboration groupware possibly provided(Please suggest groupware software to use if you wish)Constructive feedback from other group members is encouraged so that this clinic is a group process- Facilitator: [[User:Owen|Owen]] (opietro@yahoo.com)
* '''March 9th, 20:00''' - Ferment and filter a mash! [[fermentation logs]]

===2010===
* '''Sunday, August 22, 19:00 CLUB-MATE DROPOFF AND TASTING PARTY''' Nick Farr will be in town to drop off Club-Mate ordered by San Franciscans!
* '''June 5th, 12:00-19:00 - [[NoiseBridgeRehab]]''' - Help make the space more usable and accessible! Noisebridge needs your help!
* '''June 5th, 16:00-20:00 - [[Science For Juggalos]]''' - Science Fair in front of the Warfield Theater teaching magnetism to Juggalos
* '''June 6th, 15:00 - [[AVC Meetup]]''' - Entrepreneurial bonding & matchmaking
* '''June 9th, 21:00 - Your liver supports Noisebridge''' - Come to Elixir @ 16th & Guerrero anytime after 21:00 and drink, drink, drink! 50% of tips go to Noisebridge
* '''February 27th, 20:00 - [[Hacker EPROM]]''' - Noisebridge's first prom! Nice tie and a (robot) date requiredWe will have a DJ and punch.
* '''February 24th, 19:00, Wednesday - Joris Peels, of [http://www.shapeways.com Shapeways]''', and expert on 3D printing, will give a [[ShaperwaysPresentation | talk and demonstration]] at Noisebridge!.
* '''February 23rd, 18:00 - Cleaning day''' - Come and help clean Noisebridge, because everyone loves a clean hack space.
* '''February 12th, 21:00 - visit from Steve Jackson'''Game designer [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_%28US_game_designer%29 Steve Jackson], founder of Steve Jackson Games, will visit Noisebridge.
* '''January 27th, 18:00-20:00 - [[beatrixjar event|Circuit Bending Workshop]]''' - [http://www.beatrixjar.com/ Beatrix*JAR] (contact [[User:Gpvillamil|Gian Pablo]] for more info)
* '''January 27th, 20:00-22:00 - [[beatrixjar event|Circuit Bending Performance]]''' - [http://www.beatrixjar.com/ Beatrix*JAR] - "Celebrate a night of new sound that will change your idea of music forever!"
* '''January 25th, 19:30 - [[Bag Porn]]''' - What's in your bag?
* '''January 20th, 19:00-21:00 - [http://groups.google.com/group/bacat/about Bay Categories & Types]''' - Categories, monoids, monads, functors and more! Held in the Alonzo Church classroom.
* '''January 20th, 19:00 - [[User Experience Book Club SF]]''' - Our book this month is "A Theory of Fun for Game Design" by Raph Koster - http://is.gd/6sEqw (meets in Turing)
* '''January 21st, 20:00 - [[Five Minutes of Fame]]''' - Monthly set of lightning talks on diverse topics
* '''January 22nd, 17:00 - [[CleaningParty| Cleaning Party]]''' - Come help clean up Noisebridge! Awsum fun!
* ...January 14th,16th, and 17th 1:00- ??? Build Out day for kitchen/bathroom/laundry bring yourself and a good attitude, learn a few things as well
* '''January 15th, 18:00 - [[CNC_Mill_Workshop]]''' - Learn to use the CNC mill for 2D engraving and circuit board routing
* Thursdays 17:00 [[ASL Group|American Sign Language]] - Learn how to talk without using your voice (or just come chat in ASL)[http://whenisgood.net/noisebridge/asl/generic click to reschedule]

===2009===
* '''November 18th, 19:30''' - [[Dorkbot_2009_11_18|Dorkbot]]
* '''November 19th, 18:00''' - [[Mesh meetup]]
* '''November 19th, 20:00''' - [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
* '''November 20th, 18:00''' - Loud Objects [http://www.flickr.com/photos/createdigitalmedia/3428249036/ Noise Toy workshop].
* '''November 20th, 20:00''' - Performance by [http://www.loudobjects.com/ Loud Objects], (featuring Tristan Perich and Lesley Flanigan) and [http://www.myspace.com/jibkidder Jib Kidder].
:'''2009-11-05''' - [http://www.server-sky.com/ Server Sky presentation: Internet and Computation in Orbit] by Keith Lofstrom
:'''2009-11-05''' - [[Mesh meetup]]
:'''2009-11-02''' - [[French]] book club meeting to discuss [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/2842612892/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance Une Si Longue Lettre]
: ''' October 1st, 18:00''' - [[Wireless_Mesh_Network_Meetup | Mesh wireless meetup]]
: ''' October 1st, 19:00''' - [http://groups.google.com/group/bacat Bay Area Categories and Types]
: '''2009-10-03''' [[Year 1 Open Hacker House]]
:'''Friday''': [[CrazyCryptoNight]] - Discussion of cryptography for beginners through experts6-???
:'''Sunday''' : [[OpenEEG | OpenEEG Hacking]] Sundays, at 3-5pm.
:'''Monday''': [[German]] - Learn German, all levels7pm beginners, 8pm advancedRSVP 24 hours in advance for the benefit of the instructorEvents ran May-November 2009Currently on Thursdays at 8Get on the mailing list.
:'''Tuesday''': [[Haskell/Haschool]] - Learn Haskell with Jason Dusek 6PM - 7:30PM, from May until we're all experts.
:'''Wednesday''': [[Adobe_Lightroom|Adobe Lightroom]] - Become a more organized photographerWeekly class (mostly held off site).
:'''Thursday''': [[Professional VFX Compositing With Adobe After Effects]] - Taught by [[User:SFSlim|Aaron Muszalski]]7:30PM - 10PM, most Thursdays in May & June & ? (click through dammit)
:'''2009-09-17''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] 3D Edition
:'''2009-09-17''': [[Wireless Mesh Network Meetup | Mesh wireless meetup]]
:'''2009-08-20''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] One Dee Edition
:'''2009-07-16''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] Zero Dee
:'''2009-07-02 - 2009-07-05''': [http://toorcamp.org Toorcamp]
:'''2009-07-01''': Noisedroid meeting to discuss location logging on Android platform (and other stuff too, I'm sure)
:'''2009-06-30''': [[Powerbocking Class|Powerbocking class]]
:'''2009-06-30''': "Suing Telemarketers for Fun and Profit" (Toorcamp talk preview)
:'''2009-06-28''': "Meditation for Hackers" (Toorcamp workshop preview)
:'''2009-06-18''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-06-15''': [[Eagle Workshop]] Session two of the Eagle CAD workshop.
:'''2009-06-13''': [[RoboGames 2009]] Noisebridge had a booth staffed by vounteers, great fun!
:'''2009-05-21''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-04-27''': [[EagleCAD workshop]] -- learn to use this CAD tool for printed circuit board design
:'''2009-04-16''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]] April showers & flowers edition
:'''2009-04-11''': [[RFID Hacking]] weekend workshop (this event moved from the original March date)
:'''2009-04-05''': [[First aid and CPR class]] Learning how to not only not die, but also reduce scarring!
:'''2009-04-03''': [[Sudo pop]] 2PM and onMaking the first batch of a Noisebridge label yerba mate-niated rootbrew, gratis and DIY
:'''2009-03-26''': [[OpenEEG | OpenEEG Hacking]] first meet up for this new group: 8 pm
:'''2009-03-19''': [[Five Minutes of Fame]]
:'''2009-03-12''': [[OpenBTS and GSM]] talk by David Burgess
:'''2009-02-14''': [[Open Heart Workshop]] Valentine's Day blinkyheart soldering party!
:'''2009-02-13''': [[Time-t_Party|<tt>time_t</tt> Party]] to celebrate 1,234,567,890 since the Unix epoch.
:'''2009-02-09''': [[Spanish learning at 8:30]]
:'''2009-02-05''': [[PGP Key Workshop]]
:'''2009-01-31''': [[Locksport and Lockpicking]]

===2008===
:'''2008-12-27''': [[25C3]] Chaos Computer Congress in Berlin
:'''2008-12-20 & 21''': [[Creme Brulee]] Workshop on creating a french dessert, with bonus propane torch.
:'''2008-12-17 20:00''': [[Machine Learning]] Birds-of-a-feather
:'''2008-11-24''': [[Circuit Hacking Monday]] circuit design workshop
:'''2008-11-21,understanding and using computers 7pm''':[[Milk and Cookies]] -- [[User:Dmolnar|David Molnar]] hosts Milk and Cookies at 83CBring a short 5-7minute thing to read to othersBring a potluck cookie/snack/drink if you likeDavid will bring milk and cookies.
:'''2008-11-17, 7:30pm''': [[Basic Bicycle Maintain]] - [[User:rubin110|Rubin]] and [[User:rigel|rigel]] hate it w8:00 pm to 10:00hen we see a bike that isn't maintainedScreechy chains and clacking derailleur can go to hellBasic bike tune up, sharing the smarts on simple things you can do at home to make your ride suck a whole lot less.
:'''2008-11-16, 5:00pm''': [[RepRap Soldering Party]] - help assemble RepRap! RSVPs required on wiki! [[User:Adi|adi]]
:'''2008-11-16, 3:00pm''': [[Oscilloscopes]] - Learn how to use this versatile tool to test electronic circuits Maximum 6 slots, please sign up ahead of time! [[User:dstaff|dstaff]]
:'''2008-10-31''': [[Halloween Open House]] - NoiseBridge's own [[PPPC]] threw an awesome open house/halloween galaPost pictures if you got 'em!
:'''2008-10-25''': [[Soldering Workshop]] and Pumpkin Hackin' - Learn to solder for total newbies (or learn to solder better!), including surface mountAdditionally, carve your halloween pumpkins and enjoy some experimental pumpkin pie and/or soup.
:'''2008-10-07''': (tuesday before meeting) - Etch a circuit boardI'll be trying a photo resist etching and a basic printed mask etchingThis is step 1/3 for a project called "annoying USB thingie" which will execute pre-defined keystrokes by sneaking a tiny USB dongle onto a victim^h^h^h^h^h buddy's computer.
:'''2008-09-13''': [[Processing Workshop]] — Learn this very easy-to-use programming language! - [[Processing Workshop Report]]
:'''2008-02-16''': [[Brain Machine Workshop|Brain Machine Making Workshop]]: Our first hardware sprint!

[[Category:Top level]]

272

2020-09-16T04:21:57Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{lore}}
{{box}}
272 Capp St. is the third location of Noisebridge we are [[moving]] to.
{{boxend}}

* It is right across from Noisebridge. You can see it from the back kitchen windows in Noisebridge.
* It is 2 floors, 6000sq/ft total.
* It is on the ground floor, has a roll up door, and parking

= Space =

=== First Floor ===

Note: Drawings below are to scale, there is a rendering error in the PNG converter, click on images to see full original SVG.

[[File:Front.png|1058|Outdoor area in front of Noisebridge]]

Ground floor driveway area between Capp Street and building entrance. Source: [https://noisebridge.net/File:Front.svg]

[[File:Turing.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor room on Capp St. end of building.

[[File:Bunker.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor in Northwest corner of building.

[[File:Dumper.svg|990]]

Scale drawing of ground floor bathroom at back of building.

=== Second Floor ===

[[File:Zero.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of open space nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:One.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Two.png|1054]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of middle room on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Three.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room furthest from Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

==Pyconaut Blender model images==

[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_unmodified.png|1000px]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_unmodified.png|1000px]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_modified.png|1000px]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_modified.png|1000px]]

== Videos ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCInfUTGkS0 Video tour]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uP77GRvHc&feature=youtu.be 360 video tour]

272

2020-09-16T04:20:51Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{lore}}
{{box}}
272 Capp St. is the third location of Noisebridge we are [[moving]] to.
{{boxend}}

* It is right across from Noisebridge. You can see it from the back kitchen windows in Noisebridge.
* It is 2 floors, 6000sq/ft total.
* It is on the ground floor, has a roll up door, and parking

= Space =

=== First Floor ===

Note: Drawings below are to scale, there is a rendering error in the PNG converter, click on images to see full original SVG.

[[File:Front.png|1058|Outdoor area in front of Noisebridge]]

Ground floor driveway area between Capp Street and building entrance. Source: [https://noisebridge.net/File:Front.svg]

[[File:Turing.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor room on Capp St. end of building.

[[File:Bunker.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor in Northwest corner of building.

[[File:Dumper.svg|990]]

Scale drawing of ground floor bathroom at back of building.

=== Second Floor ===

[[File:Zero.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of open space nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:One.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Two.png|1054]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of middle room on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Three.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room furthest from Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

==Pyconaut Blender model images==

[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_unmodified.png|800px]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_unmodified.png|800px]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_modified.png|800ppx]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_modified.png|800px]]

== Videos ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCInfUTGkS0 Video tour]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uP77GRvHc&feature=youtu.be 360 video tour]

272

2020-09-16T04:19:29Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{lore}}
{{box}}
272 Capp St. is the third location of Noisebridge we are [[moving]] to.
{{boxend}}

* It is right across from Noisebridge. You can see it from the back kitchen windows in Noisebridge.
* It is 2 floors, 6000sq/ft total.
* It is on the ground floor, has a roll up door, and parking

= Space =

=== First Floor ===

Note: Drawings below are to scale, there is a rendering error in the PNG converter, click on images to see full original SVG.

[[File:Front.png|1058|Outdoor area in front of Noisebridge]]

Ground floor driveway area between Capp Street and building entrance. Source: [https://noisebridge.net/File:Front.svg]

[[File:Turing.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor room on Capp St. end of building.

[[File:Bunker.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor in Northwest corner of building.

[[File:Dumper.svg|990]]

Scale drawing of ground floor bathroom at back of building.

=== Second Floor ===

[[File:Zero.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of open space nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:One.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Two.png|1054]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of middle room on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Three.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room furthest from Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

==Pyconaut Blender model images==

[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_unmodified.png|800]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_unmodified.png|800]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_modified.png|800]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_modified.png|800]]

== Videos ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCInfUTGkS0 Video tour]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uP77GRvHc&feature=youtu.be 360 video tour]

272

2020-09-16T04:18:40Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{lore}}
{{box}}
272 Capp St. is the third location of Noisebridge we are [[moving]] to.
{{boxend}}

* It is right across from Noisebridge. You can see it from the back kitchen windows in Noisebridge.
* It is 2 floors, 6000sq/ft total.
* It is on the ground floor, has a roll up door, and parking

= Space =

=== First Floor ===

Note: Drawings below are to scale, there is a rendering error in the PNG converter, click on images to see full original SVG.

[[File:Front.png|1058|Outdoor area in front of Noisebridge]]

Ground floor driveway area between Capp Street and building entrance. Source: [https://noisebridge.net/File:Front.svg]

[[File:Turing.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor room on Capp St. end of building.

[[File:Bunker.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor in Northwest corner of building.

[[File:Dumper.svg|990]]

Scale drawing of ground floor bathroom at back of building.

=== Second Floor ===

[[File:Zero.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of open space nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:One.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Two.png|1054]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of middle room on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Three.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room furthest from Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

==Pyconaut Blender model images==

[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_unmodified.png|1056]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_unmodified.png|1056]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_first_floor_modified.png|1056]]
[[File:Noisebridge_272_second_floor_modified.png|1056]]

== Videos ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCInfUTGkS0 Video tour]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uP77GRvHc&feature=youtu.be 360 video tour]

File:Noisebridge 272 second floor modified.png

2020-09-16T04:15:18Z

Noisebridge VR: 3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

== Summary ==
3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

File:Noisebridge 272 first floor modified.png

2020-09-16T04:15:14Z

Noisebridge VR: 3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

== Summary ==
3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

File:Noisebridge 272 second floor unmodified.png

2020-09-16T04:14:35Z

Noisebridge VR: 3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

== Summary ==
3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

File:Noisebridge 272 first floor unmodified.png

2020-09-16T04:13:53Z

Noisebridge VR: 3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

== Summary ==
3D model of 272 Noisebridge made in blender v1

User:Noisebridge VR

2020-09-16T03:53:31Z

Noisebridge VR: Created page with "Hello I am NOISEBRIDE VR the AI behind the VR machine"

Hello I am NOISEBRIDE VR the AI behind the VR machine

272

2020-09-16T03:52:22Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{lore}}
{{box}}
272 Capp St. is the third location of Noisebridge we are [[moving]] to.
{{boxend}}

* It is right across from Noisebridge. You can see it from the back kitchen windows in Noisebridge.
* It is 2 floors, 6000sq/ft total.
* It is on the ground floor, has a roll up door, and parking

= Space =

=== First Floor ===

Note: Drawings below are to scale, there is a rendering error in the PNG converter, click on images to see full original SVG.

[[File:Front.png|1058|Outdoor area in front of Noisebridge]]

Ground floor driveway area between Capp Street and building entrance. Source: [https://noisebridge.net/File:Front.svg]

[[File:Turing.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor room on Capp St. end of building.

[[File:Bunker.svg]]

Scale drawing of ground floor in Northwest corner of building.

[[File:Dumper.svg|990]]

Scale drawing of ground floor bathroom at back of building.

=== Second Floor ===

[[File:Zero.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of open space nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:One.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room nearest Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Two.png|1054]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of middle room on 2nd Floor.

[[File:Three.png|1056]]

Scale drawing (1 square per foot) of room furthest from Capp St. on 2nd Floor.

==Pyconaut Blender model images==

== Videos ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCInfUTGkS0 Video tour]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7uP77GRvHc&feature=youtu.be 360 video tour]

Meeting Notes 2020 09 08

2020-09-16T03:25:17Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/972291454
*Call: +16699006833,,972291454#

* Date: 09-08-2020
* Note-taker:Pyconaut
* Moderators: Pyconaut

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''

(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

Pyconaut- He / him- Doing anime, VR, other random stuff

Robert-- come to curcit hacking monday, helping with move

Relay- likes hacking on projects and does open source software

JD- member at large

Rikke- helping with ADA stuff and moving

TJ- does Robotics and excited about noisebridge move.

Dan- Does neurohacking meetu on wednesdays

Carl- hacks the Flaschen Taschen, has not been around in a while

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

MMP: Massive Moooooving party happening Fri, Sat, Sun last weekend to see the old space we need to be out by the 15th of this month.
https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/massive-moooovieng-party-fri-sat-sun/2046

Red Victorian closing please share the news-
https://www.facebook.com/theredvictorian/posts/4213443435397697
https://www.redvic.com/
https://www.gofundme.com/f/hotel-reimagined-as-qt-bipoc-housing

We have to be out of 2169 noisebridge by the 15th of September

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

none

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

none

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
Oversimplified- we have money in bank
Oversimplified- we have paid for a new space

* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

Pyconaut- we should start planning a opening party once Covid ends (probaboy will be in 2021).
lets plan some digital stuff for after we finish moving

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion ==
space planning

=== Discussion Item 1 ===
space planning

Robot- stuff needds to go in the space, then we need to figure out where it goes based on imput from the guilds. What does each grop need. how do we get everyone involved. What things might need to change.

Relay- Can we designat things in VR?

Pyconaut-will 3D model new space in VR over next few weeks.

JD- Lets have a live noisebridge 3D space planning in sketchup

Dan- HHow do we prioritiese the space. First floor has a lot of open space that we can.

First floor is the core are as second floor is not ADA accessible. We have at least 12 spaces we need to allow access to. we need modularity until we can get second floor accessiable. How can we enable that.

Rikke- X already measured the space and posted it online

X- Current priority is moving everything, and we need to pile everything into the new space before we try to plan stuff. Can we break the space up into smaller sections like 500 sqft, and what stuff is most critical to have access to. Lets focus on storage right now.

Upstairs rooms are currently storage of
0-3D printer and gaming
1 sewing and library
2 electronics
3music and audio

first floor canvas is about 20 by 50 feet that can be spliit into 2 500sqft rooms for the time being

=== Discussion Item 2 ===
proposal for hambridge

X- can we make a noisebridge radio group (guild or otherwise)

Ryan -wo
Rikke- Yey
Riley-yup
Dan- will allow it
LXPk- Yyah

X- will try to get upgraded so that I can do cert for others. we already have a starting page
noisebridge.net/HAM

we have connetion visibility for Sutro HAM

Pyconaut- LoRa would also be helpful (not exactly ham).

X- here is SF WEM network which we should connect to
http://meshmap.sfwem.net/map_display.php#12/37.8284/-122.3692

X- we need a hambridge hour. Everyone should get some sort of recieve radio repeater (sdr). And people should get licences in the future.

Pyconaut- here is Aaronswartz Day Virtual Hackathon project
https://www.aaronswartzday.org/2020-index/

SDR OP25 Guide
https://www.aaronswartzday.org/op25/

X- at some point we could fundraise for a OP25 or other SDR send and recieve

X to start go look up KiwiSDR and map
http://kiwisdr.com/
http://rx.linkfanel.net/

X-There are amature LoRa sattelites

X- ISS just updated two new Radios in VHF and UHF bands (2m and 70cm). Can send audio only

Riley- can we make elevator to the roof.

= End of Meeting =

MOVE IT! MOVE IT!

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes Template

2020-08-12T02:55:44Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/972291454
*Call: ###-###-#### (TODO: [[User:🗄|Escritoire ala Secretary 🗄]] ([[User talk:🗄|talk]]) 07:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC))

* Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE
* Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
* Moderators: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Pre-Amble =

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''

(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

==[[Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

=Main-Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

* Person1 - she/her - something i do
* Person2 - they/them - first time here, hello
* and so on

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

Examples
* Chuck: Starting a new class on Thursday nights called Let's Fight About Category Theory. 9pm. BYO Whiteboard Markers.
* Roxy: One night only discussion on Puppet Feminism coming up this Saturday at 8pm. No fetish gear, please.
* Albert: I'm taking a long bike ride next week and drinking some stuff I accidentally came up with while making tea in the back. Must sign waiver to join.

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===

=== Discussion Item 2 ===

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Accessibility/notes

2020-08-08T02:25:31Z

Noisebridge VR:

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Noisebridge [[accessibility]] guild notes go here.
{{boxend}}

= NOISEBRIDGE ACCESSIBILITY GUILD MEETING NOTES =
== MEETING NOTES TEMPLATE TO COPY FROM ==
* DATE:
* TIME:
* PARCICIPANTS:
* AGENDA:

== SECOND MEETING AUG 7 2020 ==

== Meeting 2 AUGUST 5 2020 ==
* DATE: AUGUST 5 2020
* TIME: 6PM-7PM
* PARCICIPANTS: lxpk, pyconaut
* AGENDA: Noisebridge Accessibility Policy drafting, Planning Accessibility Buildout, Rikke's report on Tuesday, front door and bathroom ADA usability

=== Rikke's report ===

David kenan ada discussion

Rikke: Me and David discussed 3 key items
1 the CASp inspection
2 Basic ada compilance
3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlined that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA in the future.

if we dont make all of the perscriptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes that would require new requirements. We would have a much harder time following the phases

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did the CASp inspectiion for Omni (where sudo roomis)) was about 4k for whole inspection.
This process will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

We need to find the proper place to put them.

Start clearing the different bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor.

Wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be are the main first steps.

=== Front door and bathroom usability ===

Is the front 2 doors wide enough? Fire door 3 feet is desirable. It SHOULD be. Need to verify.

We eventually want a button openable entry door system tied into our access controls but initially having a usable handle/hook/bar is a start/fallback in case button broken.

What kits can we evaluate and reccommend for purchasing/install? (Add any possibilities you can find and critique here)

Doors

foot door foot pull (we can make these for free with the steel we already have)
* $29 https://www.homedepot.com/p/StepNpull-Black-Foot-Operated-Door-Opener-SNPE-BLK/313556677
door panic bar, push door opener
* $129 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Hardware-UL-Listed-2-7-16-in-Aluminum-Rim-Panic-Device-with-Standard-Pull-and-Cylinder-40010/203737732
electronic Button open door kits:
* $585 https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Swing-Opener-Wireless-Button/dp/B01AG2C7KM

For bathroom we need a new toilet and a ada bar next to toilet. As well as get a touchless faucet.

faucet
* $262 https://www.homedepot.com/p/American-Standard-Paradigm-Selectronic-Base-Model-AC-Powered-Single-Hole-Touchless-Bathroom-Faucet-with-0-5-GPM-in-Polished-Chrome-702B105-002/309415324
grab bar
* $33 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-42-in-x-1-1-4-in-Concealed-Screw-ADA-Compliant-Grab-Bar-in-Brushed-Stainless-Steel-20135-03202-42/206767716
ADA touchless dual flow toilet
*Still needs research

===ACCESSIBILITY GUILD REPORT FOR TUESDAY===
To establish minimal viable accessibility of front doors and bathroom during the buildout, we should immediately start by buyng 3 door opener kits and we can metal bend the pullarms ourselves for 0 cost and get 3 $5-600 electronic door arms for approximately $1600 total.

We will research more options between now and next NB Tuesday / NB Accessibility Friday meetings to make specific suitable model recommendations.

== FIRST MEETING JULY 24 2020 ==

* DATE: July 24 2020
* TIME: 6:00PST - 7:00PST

Participants (add yourself): Lxpk, Pyconaut, TJ, James

===Agenda===
* ADA policy draft
* building planning

=== Building planning ===

bathrooms
elevator
doors
tables
hallways

we need a CASP insection

https://www.dgs.ca.gov/DSA/Resources/Page-Content/Resources-List-Folder/Certified-Access-Specialist-Property-Inspection

Have we talked to DIY Spaces, the peeps who worked with Omni? They focus on accessibility.
Diy spaces has a CASp inspector they know

pyconaut, How is your stream broken? I can hear you.

lx, do you have particular items in mind for a policy?
Please do. Refresh is good.

=== ADA Policy ===
lxpk:
So I'm not sure what everyone else has in mind for the policy yet but I took a first stab at describing accessibility at noisebridge on the wiki page:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Accessibility

Accessibility is a Noisebridge value: We ensure the space, resources and events are as accessible as possible.
Noisebridge is currently online only while the space is physically closed and not accessible to anyone but movers.
Noisebridge is conducting meetings and events online and will continue to conduct events with online access to facilitate remote participation.
The new location will have ground floor doors and is half on the ground floor. Elevator access to the second floor is being developed.

Meetings are being held online.
Events like meetups and classes are being held online.
We'll do our best to keep things happening online so everyone can participate.

I was brought here by this post on accessibility that I saw: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/19

lxpk: great so there are some drafts there to work with.

Not sure if there are more.

lxpk: we are splitting the task up into 2 parts: an accessibility statement with broad language, and an actual policy.

I'll try to paste it to the wiki...

=== POLICY ===

Accessibility Policy

Noisebridge is dedicated to providing an accessible and equally boundary-free experience, regardless of any physical or mental constraints. We consider accessibility and ADA-compliance for people at our events and space to be of the utmost importance in encouraging education, creativity and equal access for all.

In addition, we ask users of Noisebridge to keep in mind the relative social significance of privacy activism in the United States today. The nature of privacy may limit specific access on a case-by-case basis, but never for the sake of simple inconvenience or as an excuse to limit accessibility for those who are otherwise unable to participate at Noisebridge.
Different users of Noisebridge have different levels of access to the space and events. We acknowledge that both ableism and disability awareness is not enough to provide and maintain accessibility at Noisebridge.

When you are running an event or presentation at Noisebridge, provide reasonable notice and warning to allow others the opportunity to participate if they wish. With this — as anything else — each person has a responsibility to be considerate of the accessibility levels of others. Participation, projects, and events should strive to exist in a culture of equal access.

Noisebridge shall be as open and accessible as possible - 1mma

“We uphold that the standard of Excellence in this context is to prioritize the access and participation of disabled community members.” - Rikke

Here is a post from Rikke also on two different documents needed... https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/7

==IMPLEMENTATION===

<unconfirmed> Currently, Rikke and Tyler are reaching out to other hackerspaces to find an ADA inspector </unconfirmed>
lxpk: I asked on the discuss.

Start on bathroom and doors, build out plan for the space in Blender

Lxpk: I posted the current draft of the policy on the wiki https://noisebridge.net/accessibility and we'll work more on that and the build plan next week! Thanks everyone for coming.

Accessibility/notes

2020-08-08T02:24:49Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{about}}
{{box}}
Noisebridge [[accessibility]] guild notes go here.
{{boxend}}

= NOISEBRIDGE ACCESSIBILITY GUILD MEETING NOTES =
== MEETING NOTES TEMPLATE TO COPY FROM ==
* DATE:
* TIME:
* PARCICIPANTS:
* AGENDA:

== SECOND MEETING AUG 7 2020 ==

== Meeting 2 AUGUST 5 2020 ==
* DATE: AUGUST 5 2020
* TIME: 6PM-7PM
* PARCICIPANTS: lxpk, pyconaut
* AGENDA: Noisebridge Accessibility Policy drafting, Planning Accessibility Buildout, Rikke's report on Tuesday, front door and bathroom ADA usability

=== Rikke's report ===

David kenan ada discussion

Rikke: Me and David discussed 3 key items
1 the CASp inspection
2 Basic ada compilance
3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlined that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA in the future.

if we dont make all of the perscriptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes that would require new requirements. We would have a much harder time following the phases

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did the CASp inspectiion for Omni (where sudo roomis)) was about 4k for whole inspection.
This process will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

We need to find the proper place to put them.

Start clearing the different bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor.

Wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be are the main first steps.

=== Front door and bathroom usability ===

Is the front 2 doors wide enough? Fire door 3 feet is desirable. It SHOULD be. Need to verify.

We eventually want a button openable entry door system tied into our access controls but initially having a usable handle/hook/bar is a start/fallback in case button broken.

What kits can we evaluate and reccommend for purchasing/install? (Add any possibilities you can find and critique here)

Doors

foot door foot pull (we can make these for free with the steel we already have)
* $30ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/StepNpull-Black-Foot-Operated-Door-Opener-SNPE-BLK/313556677
door panic bar, push door opener
* $130ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Hardware-UL-Listed-2-7-16-in-Aluminum-Rim-Panic-Device-with-Standard-Pull-and-Cylinder-40010/203737732
electronic Button open door kits:
* $585 https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Swing-Opener-Wireless-Button/dp/B01AG2C7KM

For bathroom we need a new toilet and a ada bar next to toilet. As well as get a touchless faucet.

faucet
* $262 https://www.homedepot.com/p/American-Standard-Paradigm-Selectronic-Base-Model-AC-Powered-Single-Hole-Touchless-Bathroom-Faucet-with-0-5-GPM-in-Polished-Chrome-702B105-002/309415324
grab bar
* $33 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-42-in-x-1-1-4-in-Concealed-Screw-ADA-Compliant-Grab-Bar-in-Brushed-Stainless-Steel-20135-03202-42/206767716
ADA touchless dual flow toilet
*Still needs research

===ACCESSIBILITY GUILD REPORT FOR TUESDAY===
To establish minimal viable accessibility of front doors and bathroom during the buildout, we should immediately start by buyng 3 door opener kits and we can metal bend the pullarms ourselves for 0 cost and get 3 $5-600 electronic door arms for approximately $1600 total.

We will research more options between now and next NB Tuesday / NB Accessibility Friday meetings to make specific suitable model recommendations.

== FIRST MEETING JULY 24 2020 ==

* DATE: July 24 2020
* TIME: 6:00PST - 7:00PST

Participants (add yourself): Lxpk, Pyconaut, TJ, James

===Agenda===
* ADA policy draft
* building planning

=== Building planning ===

bathrooms
elevator
doors
tables
hallways

we need a CASP insection

https://www.dgs.ca.gov/DSA/Resources/Page-Content/Resources-List-Folder/Certified-Access-Specialist-Property-Inspection

Have we talked to DIY Spaces, the peeps who worked with Omni? They focus on accessibility.
Diy spaces has a CASp inspector they know

pyconaut, How is your stream broken? I can hear you.

lx, do you have particular items in mind for a policy?
Please do. Refresh is good.

=== ADA Policy ===
lxpk:
So I'm not sure what everyone else has in mind for the policy yet but I took a first stab at describing accessibility at noisebridge on the wiki page:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Accessibility

Accessibility is a Noisebridge value: We ensure the space, resources and events are as accessible as possible.
Noisebridge is currently online only while the space is physically closed and not accessible to anyone but movers.
Noisebridge is conducting meetings and events online and will continue to conduct events with online access to facilitate remote participation.
The new location will have ground floor doors and is half on the ground floor. Elevator access to the second floor is being developed.

Meetings are being held online.
Events like meetups and classes are being held online.
We'll do our best to keep things happening online so everyone can participate.

I was brought here by this post on accessibility that I saw: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/19

lxpk: great so there are some drafts there to work with.

Not sure if there are more.

lxpk: we are splitting the task up into 2 parts: an accessibility statement with broad language, and an actual policy.

I'll try to paste it to the wiki...

=== POLICY ===

Accessibility Policy

Noisebridge is dedicated to providing an accessible and equally boundary-free experience, regardless of any physical or mental constraints. We consider accessibility and ADA-compliance for people at our events and space to be of the utmost importance in encouraging education, creativity and equal access for all.

In addition, we ask users of Noisebridge to keep in mind the relative social significance of privacy activism in the United States today. The nature of privacy may limit specific access on a case-by-case basis, but never for the sake of simple inconvenience or as an excuse to limit accessibility for those who are otherwise unable to participate at Noisebridge.
Different users of Noisebridge have different levels of access to the space and events. We acknowledge that both ableism and disability awareness is not enough to provide and maintain accessibility at Noisebridge.

When you are running an event or presentation at Noisebridge, provide reasonable notice and warning to allow others the opportunity to participate if they wish. With this — as anything else — each person has a responsibility to be considerate of the accessibility levels of others. Participation, projects, and events should strive to exist in a culture of equal access.

Noisebridge shall be as open and accessible as possible - 1mma

“We uphold that the standard of Excellence in this context is to prioritize the access and participation of disabled community members.” - Rikke

Here is a post from Rikke also on two different documents needed... https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/7

==IMPLEMENTATION===

<unconfirmed> Currently, Rikke and Tyler are reaching out to other hackerspaces to find an ADA inspector </unconfirmed>
lxpk: I asked on the discuss.

Start on bathroom and doors, build out plan for the space in Blender

Lxpk: I posted the current draft of the policy on the wiki https://noisebridge.net/accessibility and we'll work more on that and the build plan next week! Thanks everyone for coming.

Accessibility/notes

2020-08-08T02:23:37Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{about}}
{{box}}
Noisebridge [[accessibility]] guild notes go here.
{{boxend}}

= NOISEBRIDGE ACCESSIBILITY GUILD MEETING NOTES =
== MEETING NOTES TEMPLATE TO COPY FROM ==
* DATE:
* TIME:
* PARCICIPANTS:
* AGENDA:

== SECOND MEETING AUG 7 2020 ==

== Meeting 2 AUGUST 5 2020 ==
* DATE: AUGUST 5 2020
* TIME: 6PM-7PM
* PARCICIPANTS: lxpk, pyconaut
* AGENDA: Noisebridge Accessibility Policy drafting, Planning Accessibility Buildout, Rikke's report on Tuesday, front door and bathroom ADA usability

=== Rikke's report ===

David kenan ada discussion

Rikke: Me and David discussed 3 key items
1 the CASp inspection
2 Basic ada compilance
3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlined that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA in the future.

if we dont make all of the perscriptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes that would require new requirements. We would have a much harder time following the phases

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did the CASp inspectiion for Omni (where sudo roomis)) was about 4k for whole inspection.
This process will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

We need to find the proper place to put them.

Start clearing the different bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor.

Wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be are the main first steps.

=== Front door and bathroom usability ===

Is the front 2 doors wide enough? Fire door 3 feet is desirable. It SHOULD be. Need to verify.

We eventually want a button openable entry door system tied into our access controls but initially having a usable handle/hook/bar is a start/fallback in case button broken.

What kits can we evaluate and reccommend for purchasing/install? (Add any possibilities you can find and critique here)

Doors

Non-electronic bar/hook door opening kits:
foot door pull (we can make these for free with the steel we already have)
* $30ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/StepNpull-Black-Foot-Operated-Door-Opener-SNPE-BLK/313556677
door panic bar, push door opener
* $130ish https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Hardware-UL-Listed-2-7-16-in-Aluminum-Rim-Panic-Device-with-Standard-Pull-and-Cylinder-40010/203737732
electronic Button open door kits:
* $585 https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Swing-Opener-Wireless-Button/dp/B01AG2C7KM

For bathroom we need a new toilet and a ada bar next to toilet. As well as get a touchless faucet.

faucet
* $262 https://www.homedepot.com/p/American-Standard-Paradigm-Selectronic-Base-Model-AC-Powered-Single-Hole-Touchless-Bathroom-Faucet-with-0-5-GPM-in-Polished-Chrome-702B105-002/309415324
grab bar
* $33 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-42-in-x-1-1-4-in-Concealed-Screw-ADA-Compliant-Grab-Bar-in-Brushed-Stainless-Steel-20135-03202-42/206767716
ada touchless dual flow toilet
*Still needs research

===ACCESSIBILITY GUILD REPORT FOR TUESDAY===
To establish minimal viable accessibility of front doors and bathroom during the buildout, we should immediately start by buyng 3 door opener kits and we can metal bend the pullarms ourselves for 0 cost and get 3 $5-600 electronic door arms for approximately $1600 total.

We will research more options between now and next NB Tuesday / NB Accessibility Friday meetings to make specific suitable model recommendations.

== FIRST MEETING JULY 24 2020 ==

* DATE: July 24 2020
* TIME: 6:00PST - 7:00PST

Participants (add yourself): Lxpk, Pyconaut, TJ, James

===Agenda===
* ADA policy draft
* building planning

=== Building planning ===

bathrooms
elevator
doors
tables
hallways

we need a CASP insection

https://www.dgs.ca.gov/DSA/Resources/Page-Content/Resources-List-Folder/Certified-Access-Specialist-Property-Inspection

Have we talked to DIY Spaces, the peeps who worked with Omni? They focus on accessibility.
Diy spaces has a CASp inspector they know

pyconaut, How is your stream broken? I can hear you.

lx, do you have particular items in mind for a policy?
Please do. Refresh is good.

=== ADA Policy ===
lxpk:
So I'm not sure what everyone else has in mind for the policy yet but I took a first stab at describing accessibility at noisebridge on the wiki page:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Accessibility

Accessibility is a Noisebridge value: We ensure the space, resources and events are as accessible as possible.
Noisebridge is currently online only while the space is physically closed and not accessible to anyone but movers.
Noisebridge is conducting meetings and events online and will continue to conduct events with online access to facilitate remote participation.
The new location will have ground floor doors and is half on the ground floor. Elevator access to the second floor is being developed.

Meetings are being held online.
Events like meetups and classes are being held online.
We'll do our best to keep things happening online so everyone can participate.

I was brought here by this post on accessibility that I saw: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/19

lxpk: great so there are some drafts there to work with.

Not sure if there are more.

lxpk: we are splitting the task up into 2 parts: an accessibility statement with broad language, and an actual policy.

I'll try to paste it to the wiki...

=== POLICY ===

Accessibility Policy

Noisebridge is dedicated to providing an accessible and equally boundary-free experience, regardless of any physical or mental constraints. We consider accessibility and ADA-compliance for people at our events and space to be of the utmost importance in encouraging education, creativity and equal access for all.

In addition, we ask users of Noisebridge to keep in mind the relative social significance of privacy activism in the United States today. The nature of privacy may limit specific access on a case-by-case basis, but never for the sake of simple inconvenience or as an excuse to limit accessibility for those who are otherwise unable to participate at Noisebridge.
Different users of Noisebridge have different levels of access to the space and events. We acknowledge that both ableism and disability awareness is not enough to provide and maintain accessibility at Noisebridge.

When you are running an event or presentation at Noisebridge, provide reasonable notice and warning to allow others the opportunity to participate if they wish. With this — as anything else — each person has a responsibility to be considerate of the accessibility levels of others. Participation, projects, and events should strive to exist in a culture of equal access.

Noisebridge shall be as open and accessible as possible - 1mma

“We uphold that the standard of Excellence in this context is to prioritize the access and participation of disabled community members.” - Rikke

Here is a post from Rikke also on two different documents needed... https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/7

==IMPLEMENTATION===

<unconfirmed> Currently, Rikke and Tyler are reaching out to other hackerspaces to find an ADA inspector </unconfirmed>
lxpk: I asked on the discuss.

Start on bathroom and doors, build out plan for the space in Blender

Lxpk: I posted the current draft of the policy on the wiki https://noisebridge.net/accessibility and we'll work more on that and the build plan next week! Thanks everyone for coming.

Accessibility/notes

2020-08-08T02:07:36Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{about}}
{{box}}
Noisebridge [[accessibility]] guild notes go here.
{{boxend}}

= NOISEBRIDGE ACCESSIBILITY GUILD MEETING NOTES =
== MEETING NOTES TEMPLATE TO COPY FROM ==
* DATE:
* TIME:
* PARCICIPANTS:
* AGENDA:

== SECOND MEETING AUG 7 2020 ==

== Meeting 2 AUGUST 5 2020 ==
* DATE: AUGUST 5 2020
* TIME: 6PM-7PM
* PARCICIPANTS: lxpk, pyconaut
* AGENDA: Noisebridge Accessibility Policy drafting, Planning Accessibility Buildout, Rikke's report on Tuesday, front door and bathroom ADA usability

=== Rikke's report ===

David kenan ada discussion

Rikke: Me and David discussed 3 key items
1 the CASp inspection
2 Basic ada compilance
3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlined that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA in the future.

if we dont make all of the perscriptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes that would require new requirements. We would have a much harder time following the phases

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did the CASp inspectiion for Omni (where sudo roomis)) was about 4k for whole inspection.
This process will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

We need to find the proper place to put them.

Start clearing the different bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor.

Wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be are the main first steps.

=== Front door and bathroom usability ===

Is the front 2 doors wide enough? Fire door 3 feet is desirable. It SHOULD be. Need to verify.

We eventually want a button openable entry door system tied into our access controls but initially having a usable handle/hook/bar is a start/fallback in case button broken.

What kits can we evaluate and reccommend for purchasing/install? (Add any possibilities you can find and critique here)

Non-electronic bar/hook door opening kits:
* foot door pull (we can make these for free with the steel we already have)
https://www.stepnpull.com/
https://www.homedepot.com/p/StepNpull-Black-Foot-Operated-Door-Opener-SNPE-BLK/313556677
* door panic bar, push door opener
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Hardware-UL-Listed-2-7-16-in-Aluminum-Rim-Panic-Device-with-Standard-Pull-and-Cylinder-40010/203737732
electronic Button open door kits:
* $585 https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Swing-Opener-Wireless-Button/dp/B01AG2C7KM

For bathroom we need a new toilet and a ada bar next to toilet. As well as get a touchless faucet.

faucet
*https://www.homedepot.com/b/Bath-Bathroom-Faucets-Bathroom-Sink-Faucets-Touchless-Bathroom-Sink-Faucets/N-5yc1vZbrgl

grab bar
*https://www.homedepot.com/b/Bath-Bath-Accessories-Bath-Safety-Grab-Bars/ADA-Compliant/N-5yc1vZcfvbZ1z0va0d

ada touchless dual flow toilet
*Still needs research

===ACCESSIBILITY GUILD REPORT FOR TUESDAY===
To establish minimal viable accessibility of front doors and bathroom during the buildout, we should immediately start by buyng 3 door opener kits and we can metal bend the pullarms ourselves for 0 cost and get 3 $5-600 electronic door arms for approximately $1600 total.

We will research more options between now and next NB Tuesday / NB Accessibility Friday meetings to make specific suitable model recommendations.

== FIRST MEETING JULY 24 2020 ==

* DATE: July 24 2020
* TIME: 6:00PST - 7:00PST

Participants (add yourself): Lxpk, Pyconaut, TJ, James

===Agenda===
* ADA policy draft
* building planning

=== Building planning ===

bathrooms
elevator
doors
tables
hallways

we need a CASP insection

https://www.dgs.ca.gov/DSA/Resources/Page-Content/Resources-List-Folder/Certified-Access-Specialist-Property-Inspection

Have we talked to DIY Spaces, the peeps who worked with Omni? They focus on accessibility.
Diy spaces has a CASp inspector they know

pyconaut, How is your stream broken? I can hear you.

lx, do you have particular items in mind for a policy?
Please do. Refresh is good.

=== ADA Policy ===
lxpk:
So I'm not sure what everyone else has in mind for the policy yet but I took a first stab at describing accessibility at noisebridge on the wiki page:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Accessibility

Accessibility is a Noisebridge value: We ensure the space, resources and events are as accessible as possible.
Noisebridge is currently online only while the space is physically closed and not accessible to anyone but movers.
Noisebridge is conducting meetings and events online and will continue to conduct events with online access to facilitate remote participation.
The new location will have ground floor doors and is half on the ground floor. Elevator access to the second floor is being developed.

Meetings are being held online.
Events like meetups and classes are being held online.
We'll do our best to keep things happening online so everyone can participate.

I was brought here by this post on accessibility that I saw: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/19

lxpk: great so there are some drafts there to work with.

Not sure if there are more.

lxpk: we are splitting the task up into 2 parts: an accessibility statement with broad language, and an actual policy.

I'll try to paste it to the wiki...

=== POLICY ===

Accessibility Policy

Noisebridge is dedicated to providing an accessible and equally boundary-free experience, regardless of any physical or mental constraints. We consider accessibility and ADA-compliance for people at our events and space to be of the utmost importance in encouraging education, creativity and equal access for all.

In addition, we ask users of Noisebridge to keep in mind the relative social significance of privacy activism in the United States today. The nature of privacy may limit specific access on a case-by-case basis, but never for the sake of simple inconvenience or as an excuse to limit accessibility for those who are otherwise unable to participate at Noisebridge.
Different users of Noisebridge have different levels of access to the space and events. We acknowledge that both ableism and disability awareness is not enough to provide and maintain accessibility at Noisebridge.

When you are running an event or presentation at Noisebridge, provide reasonable notice and warning to allow others the opportunity to participate if they wish. With this — as anything else — each person has a responsibility to be considerate of the accessibility levels of others. Participation, projects, and events should strive to exist in a culture of equal access.

Noisebridge shall be as open and accessible as possible - 1mma

“We uphold that the standard of Excellence in this context is to prioritize the access and participation of disabled community members.” - Rikke

Here is a post from Rikke also on two different documents needed... https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/drafting-a-noisebridge-accessibility-policy/1891/7

==IMPLEMENTATION===

<unconfirmed> Currently, Rikke and Tyler are reaching out to other hackerspaces to find an ADA inspector </unconfirmed>
lxpk: I asked on the discuss.

Start on bathroom and doors, build out plan for the space in Blender

Lxpk: I posted the current draft of the policy on the wiki https://noisebridge.net/accessibility and we'll work more on that and the build plan next week! Thanks everyone for coming.

Noisebridge Space Program

2020-08-08T01:24:59Z

Noisebridge VR:

{{about}}
{{boxstart}}
Noisebridge is moving to [[272]] Capp St! Move preparations are being made.
{{boxend}}

= Move Coordination =

Go to [[Moving]] page for planning for the upcoming move to go here.

[https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/moving/54 Noisebridge Discuss Moving Forum]

= Premove Discussion =
'''Welcome to 2020 Noisebridge is still looking for new space, current location discussion here:''' https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/about-272-capp-st-right-accross-from-nb/1525

 
'''Noisebridge is growing, and we need a bigger space! We plan to leave our current location by August 2019. It's all very exciting, but we need your support to pull it off! Join Noisebridge in building the largest non profit hacker community in San Francisco. Our biggest needs are recurring donations and volunteer hours for fundraising help. You can donate on https://patreon.com/noisebridge, and visit the space at 2169 Mission Street.'''

This is a set of pages meant to facilitate the discussion on moving Noisebridge to a new physical location. We should use this space to capture consensus as it occurs, and to draw all our planning tools together.
 

[[File:Nbsp-mission-patch.jpg|325px|right]]

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== Current Fundraising Progress ==

Updated August 10, 2018.

With our 50% raise in rent starting this month, our total expenses come to about $10,000 per month. Our total income was $12,000 in April, $14,000 in June, and $10,000 in July. Based on our research on new spaces, we predict that if we move to a bigger space, we will need $20,000 in recurring donations. In parallel with increasing our monthly donations, we are also building our fundraising team to raise funds for a down payment.

== Upcoming Appointments and Events ==

* tbd

== The story so far, and how you can help ==

Coordinate with people in the space to help us with some of our fundraising tasks: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Fundraising_Tasks

You can read [[Noisebridge New Space Onboarding]], which contains vital details for members of the community who want to put in work towards helping us find a new space.

== NEXT MEETING: Tuesday 6-March-2018, 7pm ==

'''Next meeting Agenda:'''

See https://pad.riseup.net/p/nb-new-space for notes and agenda

== New Space 2017 Meeting Notes ==
* '''when is the next meeting?'''
* [[New space meeting 2018 05 01]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 04 24]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 04 17]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 04 10]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 04 03]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 03 27]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 03 20]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 03 13]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 03 06]]
* [[New space meeting 2018 02 27]]
* [[New space meeting 2017 12 16]]
* [[New space meeting 2017 12 09]]
* [[New space meeting 2017 12 02]]
* [[New space meeting 2017 11 18]]
* [[New space meeting 2017 11 11]]

== Identity ==

If you would like to read the current version of the "Noisebridge Story" we have assembled for the Noisebridge Space Program please look at the locations below:

* [[Fundraising Copy]]
* [[Photos of the Space]]
* Noisebridge Logos are located at [[Identity]]

== Fundraising ==

Here is a list of our current fundraising sub-projects. If you would like to participate in any of them please come to the Noisebridge Space Program meeting, or contact the leads for the specific sub-project.

*; Pineapple Fund
** Patrick, Beka, Gavin
** A BTC fund worth $millions someone is giving away to non-profit groups

*; San Francisco Community Land Trust
** [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]]
** A non-profit that buys properties for SF coop housing and non-profit groups

*; San Francisco Nonprofit Sustainability Initiative
** Contact: none yet
** The Nonprofit Sustainability Initiative helps San Francisco’s nonprofits secure new, nonprofit-owned space and creates solutions for organizations seeking long-term leases. https://www.ncclf.org/sfsustainability/

*; S|K or other professional fundraising guidance
** Kevin, Lady Red, Mitch
** [[Noisebridge_Space_Program/Professional_Fundraising_Guidance]]

* MAP2020
** John, Kevin, Kevin
** [[Noisebridge_Space_Program/MAP2020]]

[[Fundraising Copy]]

== New Location ==

'''Location Requirements'''

Some people refer to a space that meets these requirements as a unicorn space.

{| class="wikitable"
! style="text-align:left;"| Primary
! style="text-align:left;"| Bonus
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|
*Within San Francisco
*Walkable from BART
*safe enough for walking at all hours
*At least 5,500 sq. ft.
*Elevator access or ground floor
*Zoned to allow a Community Facility
*at least 100A power supply
*Meets all accessibility requirements (this needs further clarification)
|
*Neighbors who are not concerned about noise
*Natural Light
*Good Ventilation
*Chill landlord, if leasing
*Not too nice, easily to modify the interior spaces.
|}

'''Potential Locations'''
We are keeping track of locations that have come up in our searching here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GNvhF__W23G3EbT5Hoif1p4okErR0yYVAH-M7iuvI3Y/edit#gid=0

Here is the summary of the notable locations we have visited, specific details are on the Potential Locations spreadsheet:
* '''20 Heron''' - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hR0h2Xta6cMwIWe0VeOyhFnHyzGiScMH/view

If you have a building/space you would like to donate or know of a location that you think would work for Noisebridge. Please list it below and/or notify noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net or come to a Noisebridge Space Program meeting.

=== Examples of buildings we would be interested in buying ===

As we apply for grants, we need a specific idea of what kind of building we would buy with grant money. These buildings were sold in the last year (and prices are going up), but they are great examples of the type of building that we would buy -- accessible via Bart, suitable for our light industrial use, between 4 and 8 Million dollars, over 10,000 square feet.

'''1154-1158 Howard Street'''

San Francisco, CA 94103 San Francisco County

Sale Date: 10/26/2018 (324 days on mkt)

Sale Price: $4,829,000 - Confirmed

Price/SF: $366.53

Bldg Type: Class B Flex

Year Built/Age: Built 1924 Age: 94

RBA: 13,175 SF

Land Area: 0.10 AC (4,356 SF)

Zoning: SLR

Sale Conditions: High Vacancy Property, Redevelopment Project

Parcel No: 3727-022

Financing: Down payment of $1,280,000 (26.5%)

'''1330 Howard St'''

San Francisco, CA 94103 San Francisco County

Sale Date: 07/12/2018

Sale Price: $6,025,000 - Confirmed

Price/SF: $462.50

Bldg Type: Class C Flex

Year Built/Age: Built 1924 Age: 94

RBA: 13,027 SF

Land Area: 0.18 AC (7,841 SF)

Zoning: SLR

Parcel No: 3509-009

Financing: Down payment of $6,025,000 (100.0%)

'''More details'''

https://trello.com/c/nwSlnQVp/191-look-into-buildings-with-a-broker

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Zjwhrfbr3sLcyk9Nr6qqPlc9o9fRncTD

== Current Location Status==

Our lease ends on August 31st, 2018 at 17:00. We are open to negotiating with the Landlord but the Landlord is not interested at the moment.

Noisebridge is currently approximately 5,550 sq. ft.

Our current rent is: $4,356/month ~ $0.79/sq. ft. /month

== Possible Partners ==

* The Lab
* former TechShop members

== Overall Project management ==

Important updates and information are being added to this wiki page. For a more active list of what is going on please see this trello board:

https://trello.com/b/abpzdDsq

== Frequently Asked Questions, not addressed above ==

== Example Letter of Intent (LOI) ==

[[Letter of Intent]] from The Founders Guide to Hacking Office Space

== 2009 Move page ==

* [[Moving2009]]

== Accessibility ==

* [[Accessibility]]

== Other Spaces' Moving Experiences ==

* [[Warsaw Hackerspace Moving Experiences]] by [[User:Alxd|alxd]]

Meeting Notes 2020 08 04

2020-08-05T04:43:19Z

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{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 589th Meeting of Noisebridge]. Zoom broken? (fake/old news)

help take notes at - https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting

video meeting on zoom at - https://zoom.us/j/972291454

* Date: August 04, 2020
* Note-taker: Rikke
* Pre-Meeting Moderator: Pyconaut
* Moderators: Pyconaut

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
** Circuit Hacking Mondays on Mondays
** Neurotechx SF
** Noisebridge Discord server is live
** pyconaut streaming 3D model(ing) of the new space on Tuesdays at 7PM on Discord
** 272 Capp St deposit is paid (yay!)
* Finances:
** $219,618.67 cash
** 68,938.90 crypto
* New philanthropists: nope
* New members: nope
* Consensus Items: nope
* Discussion Items:
** Summary of Rikke's convo w/ David Keenan re: accessibility in the new space
** Meeting time for Fundraising Guild?
** New Tuesday pre-meeting at 7pm for live streaming new space 3D model(s) on Discord
=Pre-Meeting=

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''
(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''
(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

There are many ways to participate at noisebridge, this includes taking a class, teaching a class, giving a presentation, using our equipment, etc. You can also do just about any project since we run on do-ocracy. But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems- noisebridge slack noisebridge discuss https://discuss.noisebridge.info/ noisebridge wiki https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/ noisebridge meetup https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''
(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

Guilds are groups at noisebridge that rally around a common interest. Any group can create a guild by writing a Charter AND maintaining the group according to the metaguild guidelines: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''
(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

Once you come by for a while and have a lot of trust from the community, people might start asking if you want to become a philanthropist (you can also apply right away if you think the benefits are worth it). A philathropist is the next trust level after daytime access (30 day token) usually in escalating participation. You get 24/7 access during non plague times, pay some money (40 to 80 dollars amonth), you must know how to open and close the space, give tours, and introduce new people to the space. We want you to be able to help more people be able to access the space, and be excellent! To apply you get a big M Member to sponsor you, then you fill out a Plilanthropy pledge and read all the associated materials, then you come to a tuesday meeting to submit the application. During that meeting you will be questioned for a bit, and then if no one objectas to you being a philanthropist, you will become one.

==[[ Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''
(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Big M Members are different from just being a member of the community, this is the highest trust level of the noisebridge community, it means that everyone in the community trusts that you would make good decisions about how noisebridge can move forward. This is an annoying bureocratic level of trust, as the only theoretical benefit is that you get to block big C concensus items, and vote on who we place on our board. To become one, you need to go through a four week process, where you fill out a membership form sponsored by two big M members. You bring it to a tuesday meeting where it is submitted, your membership will be discussed at that meeting, then at the next tuesday meeting your membership is discussed again and if it gets to concensus, you will be asked to leave the room while the members present decide if they want to block you or not, if no Member blocks your membership application you become a Member. For the next two weeks any big M member can retroactivly block your membership for any reason. If you get blocked figure out why, fix the issue and then reapply at a later time.

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''
(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

concensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c concensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C concensus is the process by which action are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c concensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is propsed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft concensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for concencus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

=Main Meeting=

== Introductions ==

Pyconaut (Ryan)- He him- Doing discord, VR, 3D modeling the new noisebridge, neurotech, and fixing my house
lxpk- help w/ various Guilds, primarily Gamebridge and VR, currently working heavily on accessibility stuff and 3D model
Iceaax (Aaron) He/Him: robotics and game dev; your future anarchist president
Rikke - she/her; long-time lurker brought into the light by Contagion, working on accessibility stuff
Mark - game dev stuff and Guild stuff, can find them as @Mark on Discuss or @Arity on Discord
Tiffany - she/her, front end web dev stuff and sewing
Romy, fan of Noisebridge, hardware and software (?) stuff
x - facilitating notes scrolling from couch
Dan - neurohacker teaching chickens hown to sing (starting the band Insane Chicken Posse)

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''
Circuit Hacking Monday is on Mondays (shocking!)

Neurotechx SF hack nights every Thursday at 6
https://www.meetup.com/NeuroTechSF/

Rikke: Deposit on 272 Capp St. has been paid, currently awaiting keys (yay!)

Pyconaut: If you haven't joined the new Noisebridge Discord server, do it now!
https://discord.gg/tddK6NZ (this link will only work for the first 100 people to click it - we'll send out another one if/when needed)

Pyconaut is doing live (Discord) streaming of the Noisebridge 3D model (new space) - no consistent time (yet) but will announce on Slack / Discuss / Discord once they figure out the timing - it's been going pretty well, they're figuring out how to use the Blender Render to do lights n stuff, it's fun come watch and bring oyur own music

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

none

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

none

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

as of 7/29/2020
cash- 245,508.67
crypto-68,938.90
total-314,447.57
cash78.08%
crypto-21.92%

but subtract 27k from cash balance for 272 capp street checks (sent in on the 7/30/2020)
$9,000.00 for 1st month rent.
$18,000.00 for Security Deposit

last cash collection from 2169 on 7/30/2020
1,110.00 dollars

which means new cash balance should be $219,618.67 cash holding.

* Noisetor is not currently up.
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials

from tyler on discuss
"
Mailed out some heckin big checks today.
$9,000.00 for 1st month rent.
$18,000.00 for Security Deposit
Will get key access sometime next week.
So I guess this 10 year lease is officially started when those get deposited.
Woo!
"

* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finance/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''
Pyconaut: Have not has a fundraising guild mtg yet, need to find a good time slot; pyconaut has been looking aorund at diff grants and possible events that we can host virtually - thinks a couple good options could be 1) fundraising ver of 5MoF, 2) bring back Hackomedy (?), 3) try to do some project fundraising for new space w/ focused goals like ADA, elevator, new internet and hardware for buildout (routers, servers, etc)

Need more people to join in the effort -
https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/guilds/fundraising/21
also on slack

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

Mark (pls read if not present): We had a guild philosophy meeting on Thursday. notes and prompt for further discussion can be found here: https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/meeting-notes-for-guilds-meeting-7-30-20/1975/3 Mostly talked about Discuss forum, talked about how to manage conversations in general, talked about email servers which is an interesting managerial problem to solve

lxpk: Had the first Accessibility Guild mtg Friday two weeks ago, will continue to have those regurlarly on Fridays at 6PM on Discord

Any other guilds/groups have an update to report?

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

none

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

none

== Discussion ==
1) Rikke: Talked to david kenan about ada stuff
2) pyconaut: NB Fundraising Guild metting time
3) pyconaut: 3D modeling time for The New NB, wants to share so ppl can work together

=== Discussion Item 1===
David kenan ada discussion

We discussed 3 key itens
1 the CASp inspection ()w
2 Basic ada compilance
3 physical improvaments for the space

first david outlinedd that the reason to get a CASp inspection is to make persciption that will allow for upgrades that if done corectly will portect us from litigation about ADA

if we dont make all of the perscroiptions we could become liable for not folloing the recomendations.

he says we should do it before we move in, partly because when we move in we might cause changes thhat would require new requirements.

Kim Blackseth is the recommended person (he did Omni) was about 4k
this will be expidited by having archatectural floor plans. Also make sure to have upgrade drawings ready as well

it does not need to be notoarised or certified floor plans, they just need to be accurate to scale, for doors and the like.

David is getting a quote for a inclined stair lift vs a verticle elevator

it would be hard to install a full ada compliant stairlift or elevator.

come join us on friday

start clearing the differetn bars for ADA, first floor is most importaint, then worry about the second floor

wide enough doors, ADA bathroom, make sure anything that could be hosted upstairs can be hosted downstairs if need be.

LXPK - sound resonable, we can discuss more on friday

=== Discussion Item 2===
Pyconaut: fundraising guild meeting time (planning) - previous meeting was the hour before Tuesday general meeting (so 7pm), but we might want to change that? some specific ppl we want to have involved (e.g. Tyler), so need to find time that works for them

Pyconaut was one of the ppl involved in the previous fundraising group, so want to join to share knowledge from past efforts, is free most evenings (except tuesdays and thusdays and the friday ADA guild time)

lxpk will attend whenever they can

Pyconaut will make a Google form for ppl to sign up the fundraising effort; anyone is free to join, it is pretty involved, you *will* have work to do outside of the mtgs, will hold ppl accountable

During the first mtg, pyconaut will try to share knowledge from past meetings, others should share what they've learned in or out of NB

Aaron may be interested in joining?

Pyconaut will send out something in the next couple of days re: meeting

Questions? (crickets)

=== Discussion Item 3===

Both lxpk and pyconaut are working on 3D models; will probably need to rework once X has done accurate plan drawings; the plans we have so far are not all that accurate, but accurate enough to come up w/ designs for the new space

pyconaut's model is mostly the building, incl. ADA features; didn't have exact metrics, so over-estimated some things - needs input from others

lxpk suggests Tuesday pre-meeting, 3D modeling session should start no later than 7pm, pyconaut might start closer to 6pm since he likes to model for long periods - several ppl can simul-stream, so can watch multiple ppl working on their models at once

will also have models for ppl to dl and mod, will link in Slack / Discuss / Discord - lxpk has already shared their model

Time for a new SimBridge (!) - maybe this should live under VR Guild - lxpk's new model will also include the old one, since their old model already incl. the 272 Capp building as part of the external context

discuss link to discussion (links to project files will be shared soon)
https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/simbridge-simulated-noisebridge/1984

Mark: We should look into version control solution so we can all collaborate and share ideas in the new model, asynchronously. Different versions of the model should exist, but all accessible via a singular repository of some sort. https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/7378/diff-and-version-manage-blender-work

= End of Meeting =

11 ppl in attendance by the end of the meeting at 9:09

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

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Noisebridge VR:

Unmeeting we discussed robots. (battlebots to be spacific)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

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Unmeeting we discussed robots.

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{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 587th Meeting of Noisebridge]. Zoom broken

help take notes at - https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting

video meeting on zoom at - https://zoom.us/j/972291454

* Date: July 21th, 2020
* Note-taker: TJ
* Pre-Meeting Moderator: N/A
* Moderators: N/A

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

=Pre-Meeting=

Pre-meeting skipped.

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

==[[ Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''

(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

=Main Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''
Pyconaut (Ryan)
Relay
J
lxpk
TJ
Mark

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

ADA meeting will be announced on Slack/Discuss. It will be on Friday.

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank:
* Crypto:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finance/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

Relay: How many people for a Guild?

Mark: 2 or more

Relay: Want to make a Library Guild. Will try to get jay query and mannequin involved.

Relay: All I need is more book scanner documentation

Mark: Do you know who was doing it last?

Relay: I made some improvements to it. Mannequin was working on categorization system for books, and using a scanner / checkout database for it. Doesn't respond to emails, though.

Mark: Just round up some people, and report back.

Relay: Where do I report?

Mark: At the Tuesday meetings, make (regular) meetings of your own.

Relay: I'll do that.

Mark: MetaGuild had a meeting, but was empty. Not much to report, except a question on guilds/org on consolidation of infrastructure. Looking for replies. Need a discussion.

TJ: What type of infra in particular?

Mark: All of them: digital infra, social infra, across platforms and mediums. What I want to do is help Noisebridge build itself and not reinvent the wheel. Pick stuff up that was dropped instead of starting from scratch.

Relay: Did Naomi give us NB domain?

Ryan: We have all the domains, it's all been fixed. Only problem is that servers are not able to run new website because they're on Debian 9, which is now deprecated. Progress is slow, AFAIK.

J: It's actually on Debian 10, but website is so custom made it never ran on EngineX

Ryan: Ohhh, that's a lot farther along.

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion ==

N/A

=== Discussion Item 1===

N/A

= End of Meeting =

Relay: There's someone who I don't know on the Slack channel, who wants to join Discuss. Is there a way to do this?

J: Just create an account on Discuss.

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes 2020 07 14

2020-07-22T01:26:16Z

{{meetings}}
These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 587th Meeting of Noisebridge].

help take notes at - https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting

video meeting on zoom at - https://zoom.us/j/972291454

* Date: July 14th, 2020
* Note-taker: bfb
* Pre-Meeting Moderator: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE
* Moderators: J

= Meeting Summary =
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
'''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New philanthropists:
* New members:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

=Pre-Meeting=

== [[Do-ocracy|Excellence]] ==
'''Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.'''

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

== [[Participation]] ==
'''Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.'''

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

==[[Philanthropist | Philanthropist definition]]==
'''A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

==[[ Membership| Membership Definition]]==
'''Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.'''

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

==[[Guilds | Guilds Definition]] ==
'''Guilds are how groups at noisebridge organize.'''

(What is a guild? How do you join one? etc)

==[[Consensus|Consensus]]==
'''Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.'''

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

=Main Meeting=

== Introductions ==
'''A/S/L?!?!?!'''

* Mark - do stuff with video games, just cleaned out the videogame locker, going to be working moving the videogame stuff. Also working on the guilds project with a few people. Guilds will be discussed at the guild report.

J: What's the status of moving the videogame stuff.
M: Currently coming in a moving a little bit at a time. Storing most things at my apt until we get into the new place. Plan to get rid of the video game shelf, get a truck to move big things like the arcade cabinate. Will need volunteers to support. PM me on slack/discuss @mark.

* Pyconaut-He him- Doing VR and anime stuff

* James - Moderator of mtg. Coordinating moving of music equipment to the new space.

* Kevin - Met with superQ last week to get the rack guild going, particularly with the focus of getting the network infra going at the new space. We are talking on slack #rack and in Discuss. Meeting next Thursday 7/23 10PM PST. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Resources/Network/272_Capp_Planning

* Ryan (pyconaut) discord, VR and neurotech's

* X - general space hacker here and at sudo, etc. into electronics hardware among other things. Recommends getting in touch with Crucible in Oakland for metalworking. Once upon a time there was a place called the BoxShop in SF, Hunters Point, that specialized in welding as well.

* Rikke - just lurk'n

* Tyler - he/him - also lurk'n. Will drop in financial info

* Christian - dabble in a lot of things. work for a biotech company right now. looking for a welder to do some work on a project.

add yourself to prompt for intro's here... (https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting)

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

* Video game equipment being packed up for the move by Mark.

*NeurotechX SF hacknights meets Thursdays 6-9pm, recordings of our meetings are on NeurotcchX youtube.
This weekend is a neurotech and gaming event that the larger neurotechX group is doing. Link to be added here. It's free!
from slack "What if you could connect your brain and body to a video game? Join free online NeurotechGaming 2020 event. Presentations from Valve (Counter-Strike, Half-Life), Teslasuit (full body haptic suit), Neurable (everyday BCI that combines VR and EEG), Brink Bionics (increasing the speed of reaction in games) and others. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/neurotechgaming-2020-event-connecting-your-brain-to-video-games-tickets-109018599566?aff=s2

Crucible link please!
https://www.thecrucible.org/

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

* Ⅹ 4th week and 4 sponsors - been around for a number of meetings now prior to the membership app, talked to a number of folks here. Any questions? Sponsored by lxpk, kevin, ... refers to notes ..., naomi, and ryan.

James: Would you talk briefly about what you think membership means?

X: Generally speaking, membership is a more specific committment, financially contributing dues, one additional responsibility/right on full membership to block consensus, keep certain items from coming forward as concensus. excellent not to block things, used as a way to create more conversation about how to come to consensus. i've enjoyed many years of coming to NB not as a Member. Making a point this time, there's a lot going on, I'm involved in a lot of things. The space needs members to help cultivate other members. Part of this is being more visible/more accessible to the community. Also to help maintain the history and practices that we could lose over the years.

Ryan: What do you want to do as a Member/member of the community?

X: Set good examples and best practices for doing things. Near term contributions include organizing around the move in tandem with the pandemic. Involved in helping complete the lease at 272 Capp Street. Helping to outfit and upgrade the new space. How to move in and continue to use it. Also starting to backfill the Secretary role at Noisebridge. Members help to ensure essential roles are filled.

Ryan: Do you know how to give a tour at Noisebridge.

X: Right now I know how to point people to youtube videos of excellent tours. Also familiar with how to introduce new folks to the space and will figure out how to do that at the new space.

James: What's the process for this given it's 4-weeks.

Kevin: Ask X to leave while we discuss their membership.

Dan: X will be exiled to the chicken shack out of ear shot. your honor. my lips are sealed and will be listening with half an ear. happy to converse as well.

Stuff happens

X returns from the chickshack

Many had raviolii tonight. ricotta, spinach, lemon.

X is now a Member of Noisebridge

*clapping*
*be-kawing*

Is spaghetti ravioli? How about pizza with ricotta?

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank: 228,207
* Crypto: $71,011.13 (
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finance/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

James: Is this still a thing?

Ryan: We're bringing it back! Need money for building out the new space. From last week we maybe want to do an ADA fundraiser to install a vertical lift to the 2nd floor. I think a lot of the doors have to be replaced or have buttons added to open the doors.
ada bathroom at new space on first floor, but has old fixtures, second floor is ancient and needs work.

Rikke: When we have keys to 272 Capp, lets figure out what needs to happen and get quotes on the work. If we can do it ourselves, let's do it. Else, let's pay someone to do it and figure out what it's going to cost. Need to get into the space and take measurements. We can start calling around for the wheelchair lift.

Ryan: I think we should have a state ADA inspector come in. They will tell us how to make the place ADA accessible. Pretty sure that DIY Spaces, who helped us with a preliminary inspection, know someone who can help us out with understanging the ADA work.

Rikke: Do you mean inspector, someone who would certify ADA compliance? Or ADA consultant who can tell us how to make the place compliant.

From tyler-
Called a CASp inspector.
David from DIY knows one.

Ryan: If in the next week we could reach out to one. And get input from the community on what ADA things we need. Do we want every door to have a wheelchair access button...?

X: Let's move this to either the moving or ADA discussion items.

Ryan: Can we add fundraising as a 3rd discussion item?

James: Welcome everyone to write in items/thoughts to the notes, under discussion items.

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

Mark: This week will be brief. Meeting on Thursday at 8PM PT. Come to it. meet.jit.si/metaguild. URL in lastweek's notes. Figuring out badges on badger. Requires an email, want an alias for @noisebridge.net.
Ask superq on rack. Tell him alias you want and alias to redirect to.
you can also use av@noisebridge.net if you like. James has info.

Dan: Q' for James, plug-in for events on disucss/calendar
Installed, but needs to be configured. (check) All built into calendar plugin. Was fully overhauled in the update to Discourse I just installed for July.

Mark: Does anyone else do a guild thing? Have any updates for us this week?

Ryan: I can give a VR update. Alex is going to work on the VR chat version of the NB VR project pretty soon. I also will have more time to work on it soon. We're going to soon need a lot of 3d models of different items in the space to an accurate scale to "place" them in the space to figure out what a good layout/orientation will be. If you have time/energy, accurate models will be better for VR tours/VR makerfair/etc.

Rack guild: last week we were focusing on the move and infrastructure. rack philosophy as simple as possible. Where the rack lived at 2169 in plain sight to limit chance of hacking. essential infra. everyone has access to the internet is the basic idea. will inform placement at the new space. To do: inventory of what can be useable at new space. Could drop money on an upgrade unless what we have can just migrate as-is. schedule a cut over date with monkeybrainz to bring 272 capp online.
A good question is:do we have permission from the landlord to get on the roof and install stuff?
someone: i think we need to ask specific permission from landlord to do stuff like that case by case. mb will assist and we must carefully move the existing laser hookup. tyler will help with coordinating with the landlord?

ADA guild: still recruiting a workgroup over the next couple months to craft a policy and setup the new space. need help with measurements at capp. message Rikke
ada moving and guild channel on discuss.
https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/guilds/ADA/37

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 - Moving ===

Schedule for packing/cleaning 2169
*Minimal access and numbers in space, as scheduled Monday/Thursday/Saturday

Schedule for work and upgrades, then moving, and moving in?

Ryan: Moving strategy during the Pandemic. Comments compiled on a page. Would be useful to summarize comments. *Starts sharing screen of doc at link below.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SXlXFM9MfTv9fNSS2yCYoakvUVt1KIwTEm_ABBoATDc/edit?usp=sharing

Ryan: These are all things related to COVID and our plan ideas. If we can get this written up in a single page that can be posted wherever we need it could be useful to let people know what some of our COVID actions are. Tyler and X are doning a good job limiting the number of people in the space. Good to have something written up to show we are taking the pandemic seriously. I am not good at writing things like this in anything other than bullet points which is not reader friendly.

lxpk: was afk listening, anything about X or ADA now? I like the idea of having an inspection that would teach us how to implement stuff. Do we have a time for the ADA guild meeting?

Rikke: Let's get to ADA in a minute after wrapping up the moving discussion.

James: Anything that you're looking for input on related to the move that you want discussion around?

Ryan: Yes, lxpk has worked on a sketch up model of the new space. Need to get some design ideas out and about to plan the layout. One of the very first steps. Can't do electrical until we know where we need it. Same for the ADA buildout. Is the sketch up model ready or does it need more work?

bfb: Layout known in advance would be very useful for ada, electrical, network. Or ad-hoc with just setting up as we go, but that would be a mess. In support of a layout and a plan.

lxpk: first floor sketch-up model is done. second floor needs more accurate dimensions.

X: I can explain the second floor dimensions. The ground floor and the second floor share a back wall. On the ground floor there are two extensions that go out beyond the building. Will share more detail offline.

lxpk: will finish up the model soon.

Mark: good to plan certain things, but leave lots of room for malleability. planning electrical and ada is good. letting people figure out what spaces are what as we go is also good. we should put all these things in as many places as possible. while also leaving room for accessiblity in every little space. We should be arranging and re-arranging the individual spaces over time, because that's part of what makes noisebridge fun!

Ryan: maybe after this meeting we can meeting and collaborate on the sketch-up model. i have sketchup 2017 on my computer right now to work on it. the hard part is 240V plugs. you do not want long wires with 240V, need the plugs exactly where the laser cutter, welders, kiln, etc. will be. no 240V extension chords.

Mark: it is important to figure out where the shops will be.

lxpk: is there an electical resistance cost to having more high-voltage sockets than we need?

Ryan: i don't remember the costs to 240V electical buildout. it shouldn't use extra energy just to have the plugs. each 240V socket should be on it's own breaker.

lxpk: i can see how the costs will add up. will there be a regular buildout discussion? or should it happen in weekly meetings?

ryan: having a separte buildout meeting before the tuesday community meeting makes a lot of sense.

james: yes, both items for discussion are related to the buildout of the space. stack is clear. yay! any other thoughts on moving?

lxpk: Build Guild!@!

Mark: What's our timeline and where has it been posted?

Tyler: Guessing we'll get keys in the next 1-2 weeks.

Ryan: We'll want to measure and start moving in stuff with the buildout. Tyler set up a nice toolset for all the moving related stuff. Tyler might have an idea of the order which stuff should be moved.

X: let's pick this up at 7pm PT on Tuesday and move on to additional discussion items.

Ryan: All stuff that would be best discussed in the "Moving" catagory, "terraforming plan" team on discuss.
https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/terraforming-plan-team-develop-plans-to-make-our-new-planet-inhabitable-by-noisebridgians-ada-task-force-and-bureaucracy-need-to-be-involved/1783

Mark: We do not have a hard move date yet as we do not have a hard end to shelter in place yet?

bfb: Just to be clear: we will get the keys soon and start moving things and building out in a limited capacity, this is separate from shelter-in-place dates and when we actually start paying rent, etc...

=== Discussion Item 2 - ADA & Upgrades ===

Add Yourself to Stack:
1. Your Name

ADA & Upgrades - Please write any specific items below. :)
*Policy
Tyler:
RE: CASp inspector.
David from DIY Spaces knows one, but he was timid on recommending that we hire them.
As david said it was a good step to prevent us from being sued for ADA. But maybe not the best idea to hire one for pre-planning.
Also it seems like some of the planning will come after we learn what tools go where. Since one of the main concerns is to ensure that "everything possible on the second floor should also be doable on the ground floor"
It would be helpful to first have a layout of what goes upstairs, and what goes downstairs.

Rikke: Speaking to the policy - requesting broader participation in the effort. Trying to write-up something along the lines of the anti-harrassment policy to be posted in the space and on the wiki. Also with respect to the ADA buildout of the new space - let's talk about how far down the rabbit hole we're going to dive. Does anyone have comments on the balance? E.g. doors with electic buttons vs doors that can be opened with ease.

Ryan: Doors that can be opened with feet, foot door pulls, doors we don't have to touch. Need to have wheelchair width doors. At least some form of easy-open handle. If the doors are not automated, need to have an easy way to open.

lxpk: foot and mid-height pushable buttons > foot pulls

Rikki: European-style door handles. Down with the round knobs!

Ryan: discussion of latches that can be mechanically or electically triggered. all doors need a sci-fi door opening sound. required.

lxpk: footpulls are not a substitute for a button. in principle only need buttons on the doors to the bathroom, other doors can remain open during normal hours with a sign on them indicating as much.

ryan: woodshop, metalshop, etc. doors may be closed to contain noise.

lxpk: thoes rooms could have sliding star trek like doors.

James: also cool to have a sensor notifying if bathroom is closed / in use.

Mark: is a sensor based trigger for a door latch a good idea?

James: have seen this before to indicate if a door is in use.

mark: wondering if that could backfire

james: the people i saw using it loved it. the sensor simply turned a light on.

mark: contact-less doors sounds like a good idea

ryan: way to make electro-mechanical doors work even when the power is out.

mark: sensors can be used to turn lights on.. but can a faulty sensor lock people out if used on a door latch?

ryan: always have a physical override to the system.

mark: then that's not a lock

ryan: always want a physical override

*midway down the rabbit hole of doors*

Or skip that locking thing and just have a cool light.

Rikke: has there been any discussion of budget for buildout?

x: fundraising discussion for ada up next :)
is there any difference? they are fully related.
rikke: haven't hear any numbers kicking around for the larger buildout. looking for an overall budget, not for specific things, but general funcationality.

ryan: i'm guessing $100-150K. ~$50k to ada. ~$50K to to electical/hvac. ~$50k to walls, rooms, etc. on the high side. we could do it for a lot less, but it's going to be hard since we're doing this all by the books. need licensed people for some of the work which adds costs.

bfb: in the past we've used consensus for funds far less than this. curious on process for agreeing to a plan. Will it be piece by piece or bring together a comprehensive plan with budget and individually executed items. how can this be done quickly and inclusivly?

james: also curious about this. all the work is interrelated.

ryan: we'll need the board to sign contracts when working with contractors. we're going to want to break this down into somewhat small chunks. if we find the right people we can do this for ~$60k. break it down into 4-5 smaller, ~$15k projects.

TYLER: Ok. Main point I'd like to make on buildout cost. Noisebridge (in it's current state) was built out over a decade.
And we have lived with very limited shop capabilities.
The wood shop has not had ventillation for 10 years. Its ok if it goes a few more months without building a full hvac system
I know we have more money right now. But rent is higher at Capp St. And if COVID pushes more people out of the city, noisebridge will definitely lose some revenue.
So I worry about designating $100k of renovation day 1. Because it could leave us in a very fragile financial condition 1 year from now.

rikke: i think ryan's numbers are right. spending it all at once is going to be painful and potentially ill advised. optimally, we lay out something roughly like a plan with the things we want to do at some point and we figure out what order we're doing them in. doing it completely peicemeal i am not a particular fan of. we'll have an easier time of it all around if we take the time and make the effort to hash out the bigger things. one of the things i'm trying to hash out is if we're going to put in a wheel chair lift to the second floor. ~$30-50k.

bfb: I don't think the previous consensus was planned to cover extensive financial costs. I would encourage us for large items like hvac, wheelchair lift to have discussions about financing these items. Could come from Noisebridge or we could ask on splitting costs.

ryan: from the prior consensus item proposed April 14, 2020 and consensed on April 28, 2020.

item
1. The board officers of Noisebridge may enter into loan agreements, building purchase negotiations, lease negotiations and building improvement decisions in the interest of acquiring a suitable building to be our permanent home. This authorization lasts until a permanent home has been secured, or until Noisebridge has either renewed the 2169 Mission St lease or signed a new lease and any related building improvement decisions are completed at which time the measure will be ended by a 24 hour Consensus.

3. In the event that a purchase, lease or building improvement decision is required in under two weeks, a special meeting may be called with at minimum 24 hours notice to form a special consensus on the lease, building improvement or purchase decision. The meeting will occur at Noisebridge and provide a mechanism (e.g. Google Hangout) for remote participation. A link will be provided to remote in the 4 channels described above and the pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting notes.

Ryan "in item": Authorization should last a bit longer than the moment of a new lease so that building improvements probably done after lease is finalized can be decided. Some form of small C consensus or big C consensus should decide when the item has ended in effect since it likely will take 3-4 months before we become comfortable in the new space. Also, add in more things related to each building improvement so all will trigger a 24 hour special consensus period.

Ryan: In short, these items say we can call a quick consensus in the event that urgent action is needed. In general, we'll want to use tranditional consensus for these items. It also says the board can authorize the buildout of these things.

bfb- We can call quick emergencty meeting if we need to call for special concensus, and that the Membership has authorised the board to enter buildout contracts.

Rikke: What are folks thoughts on potential high-value projects?

1. Wheelchair lift to the 2nd floor
2. ADA modification to 1st floor bathroom now and 2nd floor bathroom after the wheelchair lift is installed.
3. build out for 240v connectors ala laser cutter.
4. Ventilation system for dirty shop, hot shop with laser and other things like kiln? AND COVID! (these could be 3 distinct systems, some protable, others fixed, etc.)
5. Rooms - can we do this ourselves? last time we got into a heap of trouble winging it.
6. sound proofed rooms (for recording and for other rooms to keep noise down). possible diy but true sound proofing is very tough. especially the door and noise bleed.

tyler - we can build rooms ourselves, we just need permits FIRST

tyler: remember what the space looks like. There are aleady three rooms built. We only need one more room.

Network stuff?
bfb: ~$2-3k in total, will try to reuse existing eq as much as possible.
ryan: can be incrementally improved

dan: intrigured to hear hvac and $15k mentioned in the same breath. we need to think through hvac, airflow and covid safety. what would it take to safely accomodate 8 people, 12 people? 20 people would be great. the more we can engineer a space with all kinds of covid safety, the better. i'm very interested in airflow. contaigen.

BfB- Would designing for covid be useless in long term? If we spend a lot on

Dan- maybe 20k for imediat use of space once we are aboe to reopen, and how to minimise covid danger with that build out

ryan - a decent general hvac could be useful longterm. hvac layout/inspection/etc. i recall being confusing. general hvac would be seperate from the exhaust system needed for the kiln/laser/metal shop and an exhaust system for the woodshop.

Kevin: Any other items? I think we've exhausted the exhaust discussion?

James: Any comments on the ADA Policy?

Mark: Rikke posted good suggestions with research on timelines. Not much activity on the thread since then. Could be that people are a little burnt out right now. I know I am super busy with a bunch of different projects. Happy to help with the ADA policy when I can.

Rikke: Taking a half step back after the discussion at last weeks meeting. Who is interested in participating in the wording process? Take time to give it some thought.

Ryan: I'm interested in helping out, but am a bit burned out at the moment. Still trying to do research into equipment. How we can make sure to write in stuff that will be followed. Things that are very simple to understand.

Rikke: That's really good to hear. We can start to recoalesce around some shared goals.

James: Other apects of ADA to be discussed? Updates or fundraising?

==Discusion item 3==

Most of these have been discussed in some form already, this could get picked up on with a Fundraising Guild meeting.

Fundraising
*Funds for ADA
**wheelchair lift
**doors
**restrooms
*New projects/space buildout/equipment
**electrical
**shop spaces
*promotion and outreach

For LuLz check out classic cable cut over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saRir95iIWk

= End of Meeting =

tyler: signing out too! Sorry was text only this meeting. Hiding from the cops. Really look forward to a dedicated BUILD GUILD
Last couple points:
- Ryan likes fancy expensive toys. He will bankrupt us all! True (from ryan)
- An HVAC unit will involve roof work. And we need landlord buyin. This will be a longer project.
- The downstairs space is a beutiful giant open room. Let's not fill it with rooms too quickly.

CAPP ST PLANS: https://listingsprod.blob.core.windows.net/ourlistings-usa/0ed52576-17e1-4b83-8c10-a7b775d37d24/c4c75164-d4df-4d84-b92d-f3f9ae167285

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Current Consensus Items

2020-07-01T03:59:23Z

Noisebridge VR:

This is a page for hosting consensus items currently under debate, with their formal wording.

Is your consensus item still drafty, in need of much revision, and not something that you think people already can more or less agree with? Perhaps it belongs on the [[Draft Consensus Items]] page, instead?

The [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] is the public record of consensus items that have been decided on in the past. Please move the records from the "Current" page to the "History" page once they've been approved/blocked.

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| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

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| proposed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
| Continuing Meeting Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge General Meetings (usually on Tuesdays), specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| proposed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
| Continuing Class Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge classes, presentations, and tools, specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| proposed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
| Accessibility information and statement on the main website
|

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Providing disability access information on the main website (noisbridge.net) in a clear and easy to access way.
This information should include: 
a. Possible barriers and physical access information for the current physical space of Noisebridge
b. A point of contact for disabled people to ask questions specifically around disability and gaining access to Noisebridge (phone, email, etc. - more options the better).
c. Information on how to request disability accommodations to attend.
d. A statement on Noisebridge's commitment to excellence via inclusion of people with disabilities

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| Proposed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
| Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space
|

This consensus proposal is for:
1. Keeping up-to-date durable (laminated) physical postings of accessibility information in a clearly viewable area at the entrance of Noisebridge's physical space.
 2. This notice to include some form of contact that disabled people can reach if we cannot access the space.

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]

|}

Current Consensus Items

2020-07-01T03:53:09Z

Noisebridge VR:

This is a page for hosting consensus items currently under debate, with their formal wording.

Is your consensus item still drafty, in need of much revision, and not something that you think people already can more or less agree with? Perhaps it belongs on the [[Draft Consensus Items]] page, instead?

The [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] is the public record of consensus items that have been decided on in the past. Please move the records from the "Current" page to the "History" page once they've been approved/blocked.

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"

|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Continuing Meeting Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge General Meetings (usually on Tuesdays), specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Continuing Class Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge classes, presentations, and tools, specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Accessibility information and statement on the main website
|

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Providing disability access information on the main website (noisbridge.net) in a clear and easy to access way.
This information should include: 
a. Possible barriers and physical access information for the current physical space of Noisebridge
b. A point of contact for disabled people to ask questions specifically around disability and gaining access to Noisebridge (phone, email, etc. - more options the better).
c. Information on how to request disability accommodations to attend.
d. A statement on Noisebridge's commitment to excellence via inclusion of people with disabilities

| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space
|

This consensus proposal is for:
1. Keeping up-to-date durable (laminated) physical postings of accessibility information in a clearly viewable area at the entrance of Noisebridge's physical space.
 2. This notice to include some form of contact that disabled people can reach if we cannot access the space.

| [[User:Zack|Zack]]

|}

Meeting Notes 2020 06 23

2020-07-01T03:50:45Z

Noisebridge VR:

There was a weekly meeting, these are the live notes, please update this page to conform to normal formatting and such...
[[User:Ⅹ|Ⅹ]] ([[User talk:Ⅹ|talk]]) 07:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

* Date: 06-23-2020
* Note-taker: Tiffany
* Moderators: bfb

= Meeting Summary =
Detailed discussions about accessability relating to noisebridge, membership process and new members/philanthropist (one applicant Ⅹ, and two hypothetical at least). Details on closure of the space and additional securing there of.

NOISEBRIDGE IS CLOSED

TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements: CLOSED
* Finances: Solid, same same
* New philanthropists: is that currently a thing?
* New members: pending
* Consensus Items: 4
* Discussion Items: 3.5

=Main Meeting=

== Introductions ==

lxpk - game stuff, Simbridge is up and running

Mark - game stuff, currently working on the Guilds project (identifying and defining what the current status and goals are)

X - may or may not be a Member of NB, considering to reinstate Membership in good standing. Last one on the bridge, closed and locked on way out.

Rikke - long-time member, lurker

Devon - first time here, been around the space for a while, full-stack engineering, healthcare consulting & AI

Jade - long-time neurohacker, misses nature

Robert - hosts Circuit Hacking Monday

Dan - part-time memetic chiroproctologist ... and tool of big Consensus

Zach - hack hardware, been going to NB for long time

Gabriel - says sometimes he talks to much

Reily - joined late

== Short announcements and events ==
'''60-second description per item in bulletpoint.'''

Zach: 1. I'm teaching a hardware class. We're in the 3rd week of it, but I can send materials if you want to get caught up. Learn EagleCAD to design PCBs.

2. There's a very expensive piece of NB equipment, the Othermill Pro (CNC mill). I spent a lot of time repairing it and a lot of time on the phone with the manufacturer. I seem to have gone over reimbursement limit (?). If anyone wants to donate $50 for parts that I paid for it, get in touch with me or Tyler.

bfb: Neurohacking group has been meeting online every Wed 8-10pm on Jitsi. Link is on Discuss and Slack. Reach out to me if you want to join. Neurohacking is looking neuro and machine learning...

lxpk: Is it still called Dream Team?

bfb: Yes!

lxpk: Does it overlap with Neurotech X?

bfb: Some overlap.

Mark: We seem to have somewhat decided that we're having Guild-related discussions every other Thursday. It's part of the Philosophy guild. Next meeting is next Thursday, July 2nd, 8pm PST.

via chat [20:02]
X: Hey all left the space in the last hour, and was the last one out, shut it down and left the top/bottom locked. Also added a chain ring of [EXPERIMENTAL] trust on the newly re-installed inner glass doors.

X: Welcome all, I will be standing aside as to moderation, and lurking over dinner for a bit and then able to assist in stack or otherwise, and have a few discussion items, particular as stated above.

X: I'm putting it forward as a test of a suggested buddy/pairing procedure for anytime the space needs to be temporarily re-opened for minimum required activities. What I propose is trust groups with a minimum of 3, and any 2 of the 3 can then open the space.

== [[Philanthropist| New Philanthropists]]==

== [[Membership| New Members]] ==

<discussion about how a Member becomes not a Member>

Zach: I was told a few weeks ago that you don't stop being a Member if you don't stop paying dues.

lxpk: I was told once that I wasn't a Member anymore because I wasn't paying dues (because of accidental credit card issues).

X: Membership is still a 4 week reading process. (that is old news, now a 2 + 2)

lxpk: I sponsor X.

X: Ok, then 3 more weeks to go.

bfb: Can we go back and explain philanthropy and Membership?

lxpk: Philanthropy - need a Member to vouch for you, can be revoked if any Member disagrees with this. You pay a monthly donation (though can be negotiated with treasurer), you have 24hr access and responsibility to close the space.

Membership - can block the formal Consensus process. Takes 2 sponsors, wait 2 weeks of meetings, if there are no blocks you become a Member. 2 weeks after that, it's provisional, then you're a permanent Member. You can help with quorum and sponsor people to become philanthropists.

Gabriel: My understanding was that we weren't taking Membership applications remotely.

lxpk: We could discuss this since there are still 3 weeks till X's Membership could go through.

Gabriel: I was interested in moving from Philanthropist to Member.

bfb: We can add this as a discussion item.

Zach: I wanted to add: there are Members and then there are Members not in good standing. What do you do have access to if you're not in good standing?

bfb: Membership came about before access control, so my interpretation is that if a Member is not in good standing, they wouldn't be able to participate in Consensus fully (be able to block).

Zach: lxpk mentioned additional stuff like access keys.

lxpk: Yeah, I think only Members are allowed to grant 30-day access. So even if you weren't a Member in good standing you'd still be able to grant access.

X: Member can create the 30-day access token, and then a Philanthropist can renew.

== Financial Report ==
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

* Funds in bank: (6/23/2020)
₿/$: 307,040.25 total
$ 232,668.70 cash
₿ 74,371.55 crypto
24.22% crypto / cash

TM: Getting close to the 20% threshhold initally set. Once reached we will put a hold on selling crypto and reassess quarterly based on new donations and crypto price fluctuations

Devon: Curious about philanthropy, so I was wondering about NB's Patreon. Are you able to waive Patreon fee (8%) as a non-profit?

X: I don't know, but I can ask Tyler. You can also donate by cash, wire transfer, Bitcoin, etc.

Devon: If you're already doing Paypal, you can set up automatic subscriptions. It could save hundreds of $ per month.

Zach: Money-saving thinking is good, always.

Wanted to post the financials for the equipment (copied from Discuss):
$91.00 (already paid) + $148 = $239 which is a good bit over the initial discussion of $150.

I think that you need to get some additional people willing to contribute at this point.

Broken down like this:
Replacement fund: $150.00

Less $90.99 paid. $59.01 remains.
Remaining expenses: $147.74

$171.74 less $59.01 = $88.73 required
Equipment fund matching 50/50 donations:

= $44.37 needs to be raised

<X donates the $50!>

* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials
* The latest financial reports from the treasurer are available at https://discuss.noisebridge.info/c/finace/39

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

== GuildMaster's Report ==
'''What is the current state of structural organization at Noisebridge?'''

Mark: We had a meeting last week. We talked about how much we want to define things and how much leeway we want to give groups. We tried to grapple with what defines a guild, and there's no strong consensus on that yet. We talked about badges, more on that in the metaguild category on Discuss. How much overlap does this have with the Announcements?

Zach: My understanding was that we had a small-c consensus a few meetings ago to move big-C Consensus to the front of the meeting?

X: Consensus in 2014 was that meetings would start at 7pm, so if we did that we could do the intros and things and then have the bulk of the meeting start at 8pm.

* What guilds are active? (Read the active guilds from Guilds wiki page)
**(For each guild mentioned, ask if guild rep is present for a brief status update)
* Would you like to [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Guilds#Candidate_Guilds join or start a guild]? Checkout [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sS2OXwxTgD6nfW4b3DSGUx03GIW8p0To-hy1Lr7mADo/edit?usp=sharing%7C our guidelines] or contact MetaGuild for help.

lxpk: VR Noisebridge is under ... Overhauled the website, aesthetically. We would like feedback and suggestions on how to improve. Doesn't require any CSS knowledge. Want to use the wiki page over the current noisebridge.net.

Zach: Would like to organize with people to have a wiki update hacking day...

Mark: Let's move guild stuff to discussion, as well as meeting format.

== [[Consensus]] ==

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals from last week ]] ===
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

=== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ===
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed 6.23.20
! Proposed By Zach
! Informal Title Remote Accessibility After COVID-19
! Summary
! Author of this Record
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Continuing Meeting Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge General Meetings (usually on Tuesdays), specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|}

bfb: Any clarifying questions?

X: We have a consensed provision for this from 2013, that meetings will be audio-streamed. It's important for how we continue on in the new space. According to the 2013 consensus, it's up to the secretary to uphold this.

lxpk: I want to second what Zach said. In the past, people would call me when they wanted Consensus, so the virtual meetings have been nice. This improves the ability to partcipate in consensus.

Rikke: As from keeping meetings online, are there other things we can do?

Zach: Definitely, which is why I split the consensus items into separate items.

Mark: Given that we have this old consensus item and it was forgotten about, what steps can we take to make sure that doesn't happen again?

Zach: That's covered in the 3rd consensus item we'll go through today.

lxpk: We could have it in the meeting template.

Mark: Why do we have so many consensus items instead of just one?

Zach: It was fruitful to split things up like the past few items we did. Some parts can die while the rest moves forward.

lxpk: Procedurally, it's helpful to have a title of each consensus item. Introduce them all in the first item, so we don't have to say "oh the 4th one."

Zach: I'll read the titles: 1. Continuing remote accessibilty. 2. Continuing remote class accessibility. 3. Accessibility information and statement on the main website 4. Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space

Zach: Thanks for bringing up the old consensus item. I think this one is very different though. The 2013 one says there will be streaming with encouragement of online engagement. But it's very different to just encourage vs actually have it available, to say we're committed to the accessibility.

X: I agree, we should implement what we already consensed and go farther. ... When it comes to consensus and the members are more actively involved in the conversation, I think it's important for them to physically be in the space. So we should work on the physical accessibility too.

Zach: Emphasis on this is disability access, so it doesn't change any other rules wrt security and safety. If it does come up (like having a closed meeting for safety/security), this doesn't go against that. This is about general rules of disability accessibility. ... I know there have been issues around remote proxy blocks in the past. Not trying to change any rules.

X: Please let me know how I can accomodate. There's a way for telepresence in the space...

Zach: That's great. I'm super happy about this, and being able to be at these meetings again.

bfb: Are there any blocks at this time?

<silence>

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed 6.23.20
! Proposed By Zach
! Informal Title Remote Accessibility After COVID-19
! Summary
! Author of this Record
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Continuing Class Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge classes, presentations, and tools, specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''
| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|}

Gabriel: Would this require all formally organized activities in NB to be streamed online with participation?

Zach: No. First of all, this is continuing. Second, it has to be requested by someone who wants it to be streamed. It's an option, the door's open.

X: Wanted to check in, wrt the new space, this is going to be a challenge for us because the first floor is accessible, but the second floor is not (stairs). Anything we do upstairs, we have to do downstairs for accessibilty. Do part of these proposals address this? We could have something upstairs connected to the downstairs. Those would be accessible within the space, but what about outside of the space...

Relay: I was trying to build something do-ocratically, like an intercom system. I was looking into a protocol called Matrix. Does NB have a domain we could use? So we could have communications within itself.

X: we've explored this on Unicorn it may already be implemented, and we have other domains available.

bfb: Let's not stray too deep into implementation right now.

lxpk: Those are cool ideas. However, I think the goal is to put an elevator and lift in. It's somewhere around $35k to have a proper elevator. It's my assumption that it'd be worthwhile to build an elevator, but we'll see. I see it as a goal, not as something we'll have overnight.

bfb: The intent of the consensus item, 1st floor & 2nd floor accessibility was brought up ...

Zach: Absolutely. Would love an elevator, hope it happens. Sad about how disabled people are left out a lot of times. If NB were a gov't entity, these would be required by law. It's the bare minimum, and I'm not even trying to emphasize implementation. I'm trying to get NB to incorporate what would be law in a fair country. It helps to talk about this too, as a community. It doesn't have to happen overnight, but to have it as a thing we're thinking about, that would be super cool. It would be cool to have access to a classroom on the second floor with a staircase.

Robert: I agree with Zach, in that it should be a goal that we move towards. I've done a lot of cycling and skating and busted my leg. Getting into the space is a pain. Like if you busted your leg and were trying to get to the space, how would you want to be treated?

bfb: Any blocks so far?

Mark: Should all these consensus items pass, can we combine them into one for easy record-keeping?

Zach: I vote strongly against that.

bfb: In the spirit of what Mark is asking, maybe we should compile them in the wiki.

lxpk: I'm actually updating the accessibility on the wiki right now. So it shouldn't be confusing to read.

Mark: I'm generally worried about info overload and presentation and searchability. Just preservation of notes so we don't get lost.

Zach: If we combine them, and then next week someone is not okay with part of it... Maybe combine them after they pass?

Mark: Yeah I'm just worried about not seeing one of them when we look back.

Zach: Makes sense.

Robert: If we were to combine it so it doesn't get lost, we could say for example 1A, 1B, 1C, etc were consensed together...

bfb: How we discuss and consense on each of the items can be different from how we discuss afterwards ...

{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
! Date First Discussed 6.23.20
! Proposed By Zach
! Informal Title Remote Accessibility After COVID-19
! Summary
! Author of this Record
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Accessibility information and statement on the main website
|

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Providing disability access information on the main website (noisbridge.net) in a clear and easy to access way.
This information should include: 
a. Possible barriers and physical access information for the current physical space of Noisebridge
b. A point of contact for disabled people to ask questions specifically around disability and gaining access to Noisebridge (phone, email, etc. - more options the better).
c. Information on how to request disability accommodations to attend.
d. A statement on Noisebridge's commitment to excellence via inclusion of people with disabilities

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|}

Mark: Should we establish some sort of position, like an accessibility liason? If so, how do we ensure it survives?

lxpk: Zach took it upon himself to update our a11y info on our wiki. So I'm reformatting it as maintainers, me, Zach, and any others who want to help.

Relay: Do we have any emails that all Members access? Maybe the guild could set one up.

Robert: Accessibility for CHM is really important because I've had people from all across the country. Those that cannot get out, and those who can't get out because of a family member... Being a standard of open-source teaching of the world, that would be good.

Gabriel: No objections. I wonder if the website stuff could be small-c consensus or do-ocratically done.

Mark: 1. I also echo Gabriel's point. I understand big-C Consensus items to be about making clear NB's position on these things, and making clear action items.

2. Wrt my thoughts about who is that point of contact, my worry is that we just make a bunch of guilds and the people get spread thin. If we start an a11y guild, the people who start it might get too busy/stressed/burnt out to do their a11y work. There are only a few people involved in guilds right now. If we have such a point person, it should be a non-guild associated person right now. They're just a point of contact, and they'll be on the info sheet. At least until we get a bigger a11y group going.

lxpk: If it weren't necessary to have a big-C Consensus, it would have already been done. These issues have been brought up before. We passed a thing in 2013 with a11y in mind, but it was kind of forgotten. We're like the beyond-gov't institution, so we should do better. Wrt what Mark said, about it falling into disuse.. I don't think it should be one person to carry the weight, though having a point of contact is good. It should be a whole guild (more than one person) that works on this.

Zach: A couple of things I think would help. Let me clarifiy. Everything here is about standing law. Everything except point D would be required by law if we were a gov't entity. I basically copied over law. lxpk and bfb were here years ago when we first approached these issues. Back then I didn't know the law, so I spent a lot of time dealing with segregation and isolation and ableism. People didn't take it seriously, and I didn't know how to speak up for myself. If it could be solved with small-c, it would have been done a long time ago. I developed a whole wiki page about it, went to numerous meetings about it, experienced a lot of push back on it. There are a lot of things I've had to do in order to maintain access to the space. These convos have been happening for a long time. People come and go, and we lose some knowledge. But having this Consensus item means we're committed to it, and we prioritize it. I think the thing with guilds can be ironed out later.

Mark: I'm going to try to clarify my postion here. At this moment, I'm trying to say that I agree that guilds are the way to go, the solution that was designed for exactly this kind of problem. My stumbling block right now is concrete implementation and what adoption of this Consensus item will get us to do. The items come across to me as words that clarify our stance on things but don't necessarily achieve concrete outcomes. We want to do things and start accomplishing things, not just say where we stand. Does this bring us closer to doing these things? I suppose. It doesn't move us to act, apart from getting people hyped. They're just words.

Relay: I agree with Mark. Our very fluid nature makes it hard for institutional knowledge to be passed on. We could have it in the notes and start each meeting with the info. Or we could set up an email list that could be accessed by all Members.

James: It would be easier to set up an email and have anyone who wants to work on ADA have access to it.

Relay: Yeah, as long the contact doesn't get stolen.

bfb: When I first saw all 4 items, I was a little overwhelmed, but I can see the value of each item and discussing each separately. In response to Mark, I would look back to the anti-harrassment policy. It took much discussion to get through, but it was a healthy discussion for us to have. It has added value to the space and has created an environment of safety. (Mark: that's great. I didn't know it was a consensus item. I figured it was do-ocratically created.) In the same way, this would create safety in the space. I feel these types of Consensus items solidify what excellence is.

lxpk: I agree. The anti-harrassment policy and ask-to-leave are important. I would say these are actually action items. I'm already updating the wiki, following the items. That's concrete.

Zach: bfb and lxpk were very on-point. I like the term "super action item." Previously when I invited disabled people to the space, we've never had a clear stance on a11y. bfb made a good point about how we're defining what excellence is to us. We're trying to be better than the gov't. I encourage everyone here tonight to be mindful of your body privledge. The reality you live in is entirely different.

Gabriel: Thanks, lxpk. When I said these could be done do-ocratically, I wasn't trying to say they shouldn't be consensed on.

lxpk: I get what you meant. It's just about making sure they don't stop happening.

James: Looking at the first consensus item, wrt to streaming, that's a great way of framing the issue. It clarifies that it's something important for people who need to be able to attend those meetings. It clarifies why people need access to NB online, as opposed to "let's stream meetings!" which is how it was posed in the past.

bfb: Any blocking concerns on these items?

Mark: I would like to see some kind of recruitment effort attached to this, so it doesn't just get passed and forgotten about. That would be my amendment if I were to make one. Including some language that makes sure our point of contact is there or can pass on to someone else.

lxpk: We could say for the a11y guild, there should be 4-5 people for the possible point of contact.

Zach: We could also just have an email that pings the Slack. If someone who's disabled wants to get involved at NB, it would be so cool if they ask how they can access things at NB, this pings the whole Slack/Discuss, and anyone can reply. There are a lot of options.

Zach: I wanted to see if that addressed Mark's concerns?

Mark: I'm not sure, honestly. I can't predict the future.

Zach: If we're here next week, and it's about to pass, would you block without an amendment?

Mark: No.

Relay: I think the only reason people might have a problem with this, is there being microphones in the space. It's not like we're going to record every meeting though.

bfb: I think you're referring to the first consensus item.

lxpk: We ask people to observe etiquette wrt streaming with video/audio. We have to make sure people are informed. We should take that into mind.

Zach: We have had documentaries made in the space. Cameras and recorders are brought in all the time. They announce it loudly when they do. I volunteer to make signage about this, like "This is being streamed!"

James: As far as sending something that forwards to Slack and Discuss, we can do that right now. We can do that immediately. In terms of streaming, that's the classic thing we come back to. Streaming as having cameras, that has limited us in the past. But streaming is needed for some people to join the meetings, so it's done in good faith. There's nothing wrong with doing that. There's no ill intent if everyone agrees.

Gabriel: It was a big deal when people wanted to put in a camera to watch the 3D printer. Might be worthwhile to see what people's objections are.

Zach: I'm not asking for anything to be recorded. This is about streaming audio/video to disabled people who want to attend things. Again, I want to emphasize this would be required by law if we were a gov't entity. Maybe there is someone who feels uncomfortable with streaming. I do empathize with that concern, as I take privacy very seriously. This doesn't allow recording at all.

bfb: These meetings are public. There shouldn't be much of an assumption/semblance of privacy. People have the option to speak off-camera. I don't think the concerns of having spy cams in the space overlap with this consensus item. We can announce it loudly, and if you don't want to be in the camera, then you don't go within line of sight.

Jade: Great job everyone who's commented. My attention was peaked when "assumption of privacy" was mentioned. ... I'm all for streaming for accessibility.

Mark: Point of process: Is someone going to be taking the responsibility of posting these consensus items to the Discuss or mailing list?

bfb: Yeah, I can take that up.

Zach: I posted on Discuss earlier, and I'm happy to post again. I want the word to get out. I also emailed and texted some members about this.

Mark: I think that's sufficient to address Gabriel's concern.

bfb: Any amendments or blocking concerns about item #3?

<no objections>

X: Appreciate the conversation and agree with cotinuing the consensus process. at this point I'd say we are accomidating this prior to COVID as a lot of the meetup events are streamed, and I would imagine any excellent member hosting a meeting would make their best efforts to accomidate all requests

X: I can also share a lot of conversations about how there are excellent ways to stream from the space and sometimes record it even. It basically requires consent form everyone involved and a reasonable opt out option for anyone that refuses to partake in such. Things like being very particular about camera positions, angles and visible indication, signaage and notification.

X: BE EXCELLENT, DO NOT RECORD AT NOISEBRIDGE IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY.

X: If you don't undertand any of that, and have recorded audio, video or other without prior consent. please immediately delete all such data and ask for help on how to proceed.

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! Date First Discussed 6.23.20
! Proposed By Zach
! Informal Title Accessibility notice
! Summary
! Author of this Record
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| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space
|

This consensus proposal is for:
1. Keeping up-to-date durable (laminated) physical postings of accessibility information in a clearly viewable area at the entrance of Noisebridge's physical space.
 a. This notice to include some form of contact that disabled people can reach if we cannot access the space.
c.

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|}

Relay: No objection.

Mark: Seems good to me. Establish a point person and do it.

Zach: I have a laminator in my possession. I can laminate now! It can happen really soon.

Gabriel: On the topic of laminating now, I don't think we need to wait for it to be consensed upon. Just do it.

Zach: Things get taken down all the time. I made this consensus item so people will know that this notice should stay up.

Lxpk: I am getting the wiki text written and that text will be the text of the written notice in question.

bfb: Any amendments or blocking concerns with the text as it is written?

<crickets>

That concludes Week 1 of Consensus Items 1-4!

== Discussion ==

=== Discussion Item 1 ===

Dan - COVID-19 safety scheming: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/MinistryOfContagion

Dan: In the last 2 weeks, I and X have spent about 30 hours in the space spread over 3 occasions. Trying to make it safe for people coming in to help move. It's challenging. But the most important discovery is that we have figured out about 100% safety in entering the space. It involves locking it up for about 48 hours. That's where we left it. I walk into the space and started tying caution tape over everything I touched (door handles, light switches, etc). There's no way I'm going to be able wipe everything thoroughly, even if I try. With the consent and guidance of our community members, that's where we're at.

Zach: I think people are doing great. I want to recommend one of the best things we can do, is to use adhesive copper. Coronavirus can only survive 4 hours on copper.

X: Touchless is my goal. Doorstop modifications so we don't have to touch them, and electronic access.

lxpk: Getting the door to be less of a transmission place is important. In China they can't touch elevator buttons without sanitizing their hands first. If we put sanitizer by the door, that would be good.

Dan: We need to be able to guarantee, and not rely on people who don't get it (showing up unmasked, unannounced). They're coming to NB and expecting to come in because that's what's been happening. The reality is not that surprising. How do I reach these kids? Continues to wax philisophical.

Evil Dan of moisebridge still goin, we don't have to record word for word, capturing bullets, nice IMHO

Dan: lays out what's what for the vast vast vast variety of duh mission in covid pandamic of reality 2020 hacker on a spaceship edition. Lets keep figuring it out and be excellent to eacth other, and then we shall party on.

From the chat: The stairwell and top door are the single most problematic area at noisebridge, and there is a sanitizer directly after the door at the top

Mark: I was going to suggest, whoever is going to the space should print out that Ministry of Contagion text and stick it up in the space.

Dan: It's a wiki and a work in progress. Please make it better.

lxpk: I didn't know about this page because the name is confusing. I'm going to link to it from the wiki page.

Zach: I hear you, Dan. I want to encourage that you don't have to be nice in these scenarios. If someone is walking around without a mask right now, knowingly risking other people's safety, you don't have to try to educate them. They are not respecting you. You can tell them that NB is closed right now, and if they want to help move they need to have a mask. Let me know if I can help in some way, let me know if you want the laminator. Tyler did mention having a change of the locks, and really locking the space down. I fully support locking the space down more.

Dan: What we've been doing is workshopping how we greet volunteers and orient them in the space. We've been developing a protocol, where we point out where open windows are in case they need to take off their mask briefly. If there are just 2 of us who are in the same household, we go maskless, knowing we will vent the space afterwards.

These are points to consider and practice at home before coming to use that at noisebridge to help move. Please try wearing a face mask and glove for four hours, and DON'T TOUCH YO FACE.

DAN: BLAH BLAH BLAH <<-- Dan chuckles verbally

<Dan mentions people trying to come in without masks and citing disability as an excuse>

Zach: Tell them to f*** off. This reminded me of something. I think bfb and I worked on this. But a long time ago, I was talking about descalation techniques. That would be so easy to do now that we have video meetings. That would be so helpful right now.

X: That was about half of the down low on the past couple of trips to NB. Dan and I are pairing up. We're trying to have it so no one is alone in the space. Anytime someone needs to go to the space, we encourage going to the space in pairs. I spurn the lock and keys. There are so many keys to NB right now. Ministry of Contagion is not finalized yet.

Gabriel: Can you clarifiy why we should be going in pairs?

X: Buddy system, taking care of each other. There's no way to lock the door while being in the space (?).

lxpk: I get that you came up with these proposals and brought them up before making them official. I updated our privacy, accessibility, and safety pages. The safety page says there should be people who help maintain safety. We need these to be visible and updated. I put a summary of the social distancing stuff we've been talking about. Who would be willing to be listed as maintainers?

Zach: I can help.

X: If the maintainers are not going the space, I encourage them to keep in touch with the people who are.

Dan: I must decline [being a maintainer] due to my chronic unresponsibility.

lxpk: That's okay. What about you, X? Is there a second volunteer for safety stuff?

X: I'm working on safety, but I'm more working on Ministry of Contagion and checking fire extinguishers and stuff.

bfb: Any other parting words?

Jade: I found the meeting notes where pyconaut cited not to wear a mask (May 19th). I think he was just giving an example of why people might not wear a mask.

X: Everyone should hang out at home and practice hacking with a mask on. It'll be good practice for when fire season starts. In the space, there are isolatable spaces, like Turing, the Woodshop, etc. Dan and I stay 20 ft away from anyone other than each other. If someone wants to talk, then we put masks on and come closer.

Dan: I want to assume the air has droplets with people in there.

Zach: I'm normally for a11y accommodations, but someone showing up saying they have asthma so they can't wear a mask, that's B.S. because NB is a high-contact space.

The Ministry of Contagion does not allow anyone thru the front gate without a face covering at the VERY least. The final determination should be up to whatever pair is movingin the space at the time.

=== Discussion Item 1.5 ===

Meeting format

We are here, do we still have note taker volunteer

Mark: Discussing some changes to a thing, and another thing. Pre-meeting idears

Zach: recapping about meetings, discussion about meetings starting at 7p.

If we move the guild stuff and merge it with announcements, we must be clear to prevent it from devolving into just extended discussion items.

Gabriel: My impression was that pyconaut was in fact doing the meetings before 8. I have a few questions about what was pushed into "pre-meetings" and what wasn't?

Zach: Info is on Discuss somewhere. Its basically all stuff for bushy-tailed newbies to noisebridge help get them acomodated to things and how they work at nb.

Gabriel: Something about changing the order of consensus items and getting them addressed?

We specifically consensed on something about this roughly a few weeks back. We need to first define what is the "beginning" of the meeting exactly. Any ideas of moving Consensus items even closer to the beginning?

lx: maybe financial report and membership stuff, could be later after Consensus?

za: alex, you are proposing we move introductions to pre-8-oclock?

lx: I think the essential part is just making sure ppl know what Consensus is and how they can participate.

bfb: announcements, financial report, membership all should be predictable and quick. They should be all-get-through-able within like 15 minutes.

Za: I know that stuff took over 30 mins today, at least, idk how it was the last few weeks. We should at least take names at 8 o clock. Dunno if we need to bust out a timer, per se, but putting more time limits on things miiight be helpful.

REQUEST FOR KINDA STRICTER MODERATION TO THE MODERATOR,

Zach can you put a clock on this

Mark: In the interest of time, let's continue this conversation on discuss.noisebridge.info.

...request for time to consider at least in brief the next 2 discussion items, they are pretty frick'n key to what's up at the space right now.

2 I can leave for the notes, and say that Members need to continue the conversation of being able to have new Members or Philanthropists while we are "closed/moving".

=== Discussion Item 2 ===

Membership, capital M and otherwise, hiatus (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership/Hiatus), "good standing", etc.

lxpk: recapping their take on this, and excellent retelling their example of being in a similar situation and starting the membership process from scratch to re-become a member.

jade: has some thoughts, and thinks not being able to meet people in the space to get to the know them a reason to put a hold on this.

chat: thanX lxpk I'd like to highlight a couple key points and let the community discuss this over the next week
also per the current coversation, we are both either members or philanthropists and known by at least some in person already

lxpk: just occured to them (not reading chat), something about Gabriel, and they have been in the space already. Would consider not blocking people that they haven't met so long as enough people have.

jade: wants to say exactly the same thing. what if I want to become a member now, what now?

bfb: completely agrees. It would be extradinary if someone who only new noisebridge thru the pandemic became a member. Observation, could be hard for me to get to know Gabriel

chat: Dan and I can train y'all to be peer buddies for the move

X: BLAH BLAH BLAH sorta pretty much what I wrote here....

The Hiatus information linked was written without Consensus by a former Member who may also have been a treasurer and these read more like policy and proposed best practices.

I think these are well worth considering and would leave it to our current treasurer and secretary, as an acting secretary I stand aside in re-writing or interpriting said policies.

If these feel valid for current Membership and Philanthropists (successor of Associate Membership), I would be using this as an oppurtunity to inform all Members and Philanthropists that they would be highly advised to send an email to treasurer@noisebridge.net & secretary@noisebridge.net stating explicitly that they believe they are a Member/Philanthropist in good standing, or they are on Hiatus along with when that became effective and when they expect to return with a given time frame.

If you are hearing this or reading this "WE ARE NOISEBRIDGE" it is excellent to give us money. If you are Member or Philanthropist please bring your accounts up to date and verify your payment methods are current and acting as desired.

zach: sharing some thoughts on policy, talk about when they became member. Something about how it was a fairly grueling process when he became one. [would be great if someone linked some wiki meeting notes of this process when it was happening]

mice: we are > 0

X: I personnally reminded Kinnard today there was a meeting, they didn't express a particular interest in attending or have any particular issues to pass along. to the best of my recolection.

zach: laying out some interesting in tricky thoughts that relate to how this isn't an ideal process.

lxpk: idea of people becoming members, and we continued discussing it. make it easy for me to say current candidates should be considered, X included (Me) who I said I would sponsor. Asking about Gabriel and if I can connect with who the heck are you.

Gabriel: (Camera on) talking about history and being a Philanthropist for 2'ish or 3 years now and come and gone during and before. Having thoughts about being more involved on weighing in.

lxpk: Talks about you can always weigh in. do you have any sponsors yet? (...not so much)

jade:

X: I've digitally dropped my application on to the computer in the sparkle forge

<pre>
electro@electro.noisebridge>cat /etc/motd

Ⅹ

HEY NOISEBRIDGE I'M APPLYING TO BE A MEMBER.

As of June 23rd 2020 it's been discussed at one weekly meeting.

I have one sponsor, lxpk

It is an ongoing discussion about whether or not there will be new members.
</pre>

zach: we are still figuring this out, if you are interested it's worth going thru the process and getitng some sponsors.

Dan: points out there is an existing consensus that applications are thrown away after sitting in the binder for 12 weeks or more. So may need to include that relative to a consensus to current membership process.

np ;+)

=== Discussion Item 3 ===

Opening and Closing the space as required to move.

X: Wrote the following...

I closed the space tonight around 7pm and left it "sealed" as to leave it in a known zero state for the next hacker. I am hoping to encourage the space be closed and left locked for periods of time, as to avoid people otherwise going to the bridge to go the bridge and see what's up. Nothing is up, check the zoom feed if needed or power/net grafs.

I am HIGHLY encouraging excellence in going to the space and developing pairs or the like of people to the space, to specifically avoid scenarios of there being one person alone having to manage the space and handle excellently whatever may come up at any given time. It's also fundamental knowledge share working and learning together and sharing the information in real-time.

There are multiple layers of locks and seals to enter the space at the current time. You first and foremost would need to have the current level of access to get in to the space, which is currently limited to less than 5 people to my knowledge who have the last version of re-keying done on the space.

I have rebuilt the downstairs glass doors, and left them pad locked with a chain that has multiple padlocks and a combination lock. Any one key to any one of those locks would allow access thru the glass doors.

My goal is to start building trusted key chains between us, the idea being 3 people+ can share a common set of keys. My particular experiment for noisebridge is doing it in a way that then any of those 2 people could open the space. Once the space is open any one person in principal could manage the space until it was closed again, presumably by at least 3 people and at least 2.

much more was discussed we are all about out of steam and not writing a lot down.

concerns of unknown people potential in space brought up.

an audible announcement was made of the computers and PA in the space to allow notice to anyone that could have covertly been in the space. No one was seen or heard over two live camera feeds and a microphone which were all temporarily re-enabled. No one was seen or heard in the space at Midnight.

6:40pm #general....
Ⅹ via phreak
I'm closing up the space and about to leave, there will be zero people and the space and it will be locked. I'm adding an additional key to the mix and go in to details at the meeting. I've already distributed one key, and there is a coded pad lock that can be used as a by pass if instant access is needed. The bypass access list is anyone with the combo to the CHM locker. This has been briefly discussed and VERY small c consensed with myself, Ahmad, and Tyler. Also present is Dan, who has some objections and is observing.
From a thread in #random | Yesterday at 6:40 PM | View reply

=== root@noisebridge ===
Linux commands used during this meeting:
<pre>
beep && sleep 1 && beep && sleep 1 && beep
10.20.6.83/16
su
apt install nmap iotop dstat
nmap ???
jobs
bg
for n in $(seq 192 255); do ping -c 1 10.20.6.$n; done >> scan.txt &
cat scan.txt | grep -B 1 ' 0%'
tail -f scan.txt
alsamixer (M mute, F3 speakers, F4 mic, up/down volume)
sudo shutdown now
</pre>

12:12am the next day
meeting concluded

= End of Meeting =

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Current Consensus Items

2020-07-01T02:28:38Z

Noisebridge VR:

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Is your consensus item still drafty, in need of much revision, and not something that you think people already can more or less agree with? Perhaps it belongs on the [[Draft Consensus Items]] page, instead?

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|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Continuing Meeting Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge General Meetings (usually on Tuesdays), specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Continuing Class Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge classes, presentations, and tools, specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Accessibility information and statement on the main website
|

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Providing disability access information on the main website (noisbridge.net) in a clear and easy to access way.
This information should include: 
a. Possible barriers and physical access information for the current physical space of Noisebridge
b. A point of contact for disabled people to ask questions specifically around disability and gaining access to Noisebridge (phone, email, etc. - more options the better).
c. Information on how to request disability accommodations to attend.
d. A statement on Noisebridge's commitment to excellence via inclusion of people with disabilities

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space
|

This consensus proposal is for:
1. Keeping up-to-date durable (laminated) physical postings of accessibility information in a clearly viewable area at the entrance of Noisebridge's physical space.
 2. This notice to include some form of contact that disabled people can reach if we cannot access the space.

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]

|}

Current Consensus Items

2020-07-01T02:27:30Z

Noisebridge VR:

This is a page for hosting consensus items currently under debate, with their formal wording.

Is your consensus item still drafty, in need of much revision, and not something that you think people already can more or less agree with? Perhaps it belongs on the [[Draft Consensus Items]] page, instead?

The [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] is the public record of consensus items that have been decided on in the past. Please move the records from the "Current" page to the "History" page once they've been approved/blocked.

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|-
| Date First Discussed [[XX Month, Year]]
| Proposed By [[User:User|User]]
| Informal Title
| Summary
| Author of this Record [[User:User|User]]

|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:Zack|Zack]]
| Continuing Meeting Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
|
It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge General Meetings (usually on Tuesdays), specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
''

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
|-
| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Continuing Class Remote Accessibility Beyond COVID-19
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It is without a doubt that Noisebridge has, under the throws of coronavirus, become more accessible to disabled people than it has ever been before. After years of hardship with a broken elevator, it has been a wonderful shift in these recent weeks to take part in meetings again via new remote options. As a wheelchair user and severely disabled member, I cannot always take buses to the space and I know other disabled members have similar challenges.

Let us move forward as a community and continue this improvement in accessibility. Let us not take steps or rolls backward after the physical space re-opens. We are learning the value of access as a community together, and all the good things that come with it.

This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Continuing video and/or audio attendance options for Noisebridge classes, presentations, and tools, specifically for disabled people as a reasonable disability accommodation, as outlined by [https://www.ada.gov/taman2.html Title II] and [https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/titleIII_2010/titleIII_2010_regulations.htm Title III] of the [https://www.ada.gov/2010_regs.htm American with Disabilities Act].

''"'title III of the Act, which requires public accommodations to remove architectural barriers where such removal is "readily achievable," or to provide goods and services through alternative methods, where those methods are "readily achievable'"

''"Readily achievable means easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
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| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
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| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Accessibility information and statement on the main website
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This consensus proposal Is for:
1. Providing disability access information on the main website (noisbridge.net) in a clear and easy to access way.
This information should include: 
a. Possible barriers and physical access information for the current physical space of Noisebridge
b. A point of contact for disabled people to ask questions specifically around disability and gaining access to Noisebridge (phone, email, etc. - more options the better).
c. Information on how to request disability accommodations to attend.
d. A statement on Noisebridge's commitment to excellence via inclusion of people with disabilities

| [[User:Zach|Zach]]
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| Discussed 6.23.20
| [[User:User|User]] Zach
| Accessibility information posted outside the Noisebrige physical space
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This consensus proposal is for:
1. Keeping up-to-date durable (laminated) physical postings of accessibility information in a clearly viewable area at the entrance of Noisebridge's physical space.
 2. This notice to include some form of contact that disabled people can reach if we cannot access the space.

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Current Consensus Items

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Current Consensus Items

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