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NoisebridgeChinaTrip8

2018-07-07T17:33:49Z

Marlus: /* People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #8, 2018: */

= NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #8 -- Start Date: 3-November-2018, in Beijing -- End Date: 23-November-2018, in Shenzhen=

[[File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #4 Welcome to China!, Beijing]]

[[File:KungFuHacking_Nov_2013.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #3 Kung Fu Hacking: Hackers In Residence Kickoff event at Tsinghua University, Beijing]]

[[File:petrochemical_university.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #2 Visit to Petrochemical Univeristy, Beijing]]

[[File:Beijing_Oct_2009.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #1 Jingshan Park, Beijing]]

[[File:Shenzhen_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Visit to Seeed Studio's factory, Shenzhen]]

[[File:Zhenzhou_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Presentations at Zhengzhou High School #2, Zhengzhou]]
 
 
      ''The start and end dates and cities for this year's Hacker Trip To China are now set!'' 
            '''Start: 3-November-2018, in Beijing''' 
            '''End: 23-November-2018, in Shenzhen''' 
 
'''NOTE THAT THE DATES NEEDED TO BE CHANGED!''' 
These above dates are now set and correct (they will not be changed again).
 
== Previous Hacker Trips To China ==
::''This will be the 8th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.'' 
::'''''(Though the start and end dates are now set, and the start and end cities are now set, the rest of the itinerary is only an outline and open to change.)'''''
 
::''In previous years' Hacker Trips To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now started hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. We've also gone to Maker Faires and similar events in Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live.''

::''Wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2017 we gave presentations at: Maker Bay and Dim Sum Labs in Hong Kong; at HAX, x.Factory, and Lab0x0 in Shenzhen; at Niba Makerspace and for the mayor of Xi'an in Xi'an; at Tsinghua University's iCenter and Beijing LUG in Beijing, and at DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Mushroom Cloud, and XinCheJian hackerspcae in Shanghai.'' 

::''You can see info from the previous Trips: 
::''[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip To China 2013]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip To China 2014]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip To China 2015]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip To China 2016]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip To China 2017]]'' 

::-- [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]].

== This year's Hacker Trip To China ==
'''When: 3-Nov in Beijing''' 
                  through 
            '''23-Nov in Shenzhen'''.

'''Flight, transportation, and hotel Info''': It is up to each person to book your own air fare to meet in our starting city, Beijing, on 3-November (which probably means leaving your home on 2-November), and to fly home from our ending city, Shenzhen, on 23-November. ''(Of course, you can decide to come before or after our start date, and leave before or after our end date -- you are free to come and go as you please -- some of us will spend a few days in Hong Kong after Shenzhen.)'' 

I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China. 

'''Where:''' In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interests them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too! 

'''NOTE THAT THE INFO BELOW IS ONLY A BRIEF POSSIBLE OUTLINE:''' 
'''Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:''' 
* We will start our trip by meeting in '''Beijing''' where we may visit [http://www.bjmakerspace.com/ Beijing Makerspace], and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the "world's largest hackerspace" in 2015 (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
* We will probably next go to '''Xi'an''', where we will be shown some of the extensive activity to encourage "innovation" there. We can give presentations at [http://www.nibaspace.com/index/ Niba Makerspace], where lots of way cool and interesting things are happening. Our hosts will also show us lots of local arts and cultural activities, as well as give us a tour of the 10,000 Terracotta Warriors.
* We may go to '''Chengdu''' from there, home of the panda bears, as well as another new Chinese "innovation" hub.
* We may then visit '''Shanghai'''. In Shanghai we will visit [http://www.etonnet.com/ my manufacturer (Etonnet)] that I have used for [http://www.tvbgone.com TV-B-Gone] remote controls and [http://www.neurodreamer.com NeuroDreamer] sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit [http://xinchejian.com/ XinCheJian] hackerspace in Shanghai, the coolest hackerspace in all of China. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as [http://www.dfrobot.com/ DFRobot]. We can also visit the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/4064240200/in/set-72157622640069902/ Shanghai electronics mall] (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).
* We'll finish our Trip in '''Shenzhen''', where we can visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/ Chaihuo Makerspace], [http://www.szdiy.org/ SZDIY] hackerspace, and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are new over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We can visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/xfactory/ x.factory] while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we can organize a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off our projects. We will also visit [http://www.seeedstudio.com Seeed Studio] - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of [http://dangerousprototypes.com/ Dangerous Prototypes] - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit [http://www.dorabot.com/ Dorabot], a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. We may also visit [https://hax.co/ HAX], the first and biggest hardware accelerator (and where I'm a mentor) -- those who wanted to gave presentations at HAX last year. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print Huaqiangbei electronics market] in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by famous hackers who really know the place well). If the timing works out, we will go to the [http://www.shenzhenmakerfaire.com/ Shenzhen Maker Faire]. 

For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, Shenzhen, on 23-November. But, since '''Hong Kong''' is just over the border from mainland China, some of us will go there to fly home (since it is cheaper, and since Hong Kong is a way cool city).

''Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China. 

'''Cost:''' For the Hacker Trip To China 2017, I paid $2,656 total (for 4 weeks, since I stayed longer than the Trip), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, a new smart phone, a bunch of new clothing, and everything. 
''As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University, our hosts in Xi'an, and other hosts that invite us to give presentations.''

'''#hashtag:''' [https://twitter.com/hashtag/httc2018 #httc2018]      (Hacker Trip To China 2018)

 
 

== Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 8 ==

'''NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFO IS ONLY A POSSIBLE OUTLINE'''

'''The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:'''
''2-November-2017 -- '''Leave home''' for '''Beijing''' (arrive in Beijing on 3-November)''
''3-November-2017 -- We all meet in '''Beijing''' -- hotel: various [TBD]
'''3-November to 9-November -- Beijing'''
3-November, 8pm: Group dinner
''9-November -- train to Xi'an''
'''9-November to 13-November -- Xi'an'''
''13-November -- train to Chengdu''
'''13-November to 15-November -- Chengdu'''
''15-November -- train to Shanghai''
'''15-November to 18-November -- Shanghai'''
''18-November -- train to Shenzhen''
'''18-November to 23-November -- Shenzhen''' ''
''23-November -- '''fly home''' (arrive NA or EU on same day)''

'''After Shenzhen some people may go to Hong Kong for a few days''' ''

== Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation ==
Here is [[Noahs_Guide|a very useful guide]] about internet in China, phones in China, translating Chinese, and navigation in China! This was written in 2017, and should all still be relevant for this year.

== Hong Kong Guide ==
[[Hong Kong Guide]]

 
 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2017==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2017HongKong.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2017Xian.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665928352469/ Hong Kong, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665929390189/ Shenzhen, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052606231/ Xi'an, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052837801/ Beijing, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157687009709482/ Shanghai, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688893716634/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2017] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157665931188619/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2017 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2016Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2016Zhenzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2016Hangzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672475058474/ Shanghai, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157674645655612/ Zhengzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676024748146/ Shenzhen, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676142107066/ Beijing, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676144570756/ Hangzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672603805234/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157674928976010/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2016 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2015HongKongNeon.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShenzhenFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShanghaiTempleMall.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingDoor.jpg
File:HTTC2015HangzhouTemple.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingShop.jpg
File:HTTC2015SuzhouUmbrellas.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157659076735178 Hong Kong, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660026965949 Shenzhen, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660038275888 Shanghai, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157658114137264 Beijing, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660424228042 YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660650175925 Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157658310336814 Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157660374807166/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2015 all in one place]


 
[https://picasaweb.google.com/dtharn/ChinaInOctober2015?feat=directlink Dave's photos]

 
Blake's photos:
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/sets/72157662429341996 Hong Kong!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660150285384 Shenzen!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157661790873029 Shanghai!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660153522904 Beijing!]
 

Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/Q840rT Hong Kong] 
Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/yLo903 Shenzhen] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskqNiQeX Beijing] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskrE55NX Shanghai] 

 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod_b.jpg
File:HTTC2014AiWeiWei.jpg
File:HTTC2014BeijingLGBTcentre.jpg
File:HTTC2014Brooms.jpg
File:HTTC2014CableFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2014ChaiHuo.jpg
File:HTTC2014GiantSewing.jpg
File:HTTC2014Huaqianbei.jpg
File:HTTC2014IEIK2014.jpg
File:HTTC2014SeeedStudio.jpg
File:HTTC2014Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tianjin.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tienanmen.jpg
File:HTTC2014TrainConvenienceStore.jpg
File:HTTC2014TsinghuaMakersDay.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod.jpg
File:HTTC2014XinCheJian.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157646894397704/ Beijing, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648975298719/ Shanghai, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648981933060/ Shenzhen, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649396351315/ Kunshan, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649148594118/ Shanghai (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146775640/ Beijing (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146987360/ Tianjin, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157647372474753/ Beijing (3), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649287546450/ Singapore, Dec-2014] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157649162773126/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2014 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== You will Need a Chinese Visa!! ==
To go to China, you needed to get a visa!

Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).

* And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid ''at least'' 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 23-November-2018, then your passport needs to be valid through 22-November-2019). Your passport must also have at least ''one entirely blank page''.

* You also need:
** a printout of a filled-out [http://www.chinaconsulatesf.org/chn/qianzhen/zgqz/P020130828366275572026.pdf Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China]. (If you like, please email me, and I can reply with my filled out visa form from 2015, so you have an example to follow).
** a copy of the information pages of your passport.
** a copy of your most recent Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
** one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
** a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
** a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).

* For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (but it is much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting in 2015, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years (even though there is no option for this on the visa form). We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.

You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. ''Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.''

To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.) 
''NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for Chinese holidays! Please check the dates! For 2018 these dates are: 1-January, 15-January, 15-16 February, 28-May, 19-June, 4-July, 3-September, 1-October, 8-October, 12-November, 22-23 November, and 24-25-December: 
[https://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/us/sanfrancisco.htm 2018 San Francisco Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule]''
 
(Citizens of US and Europe ''do not'' need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)
 

= Previous Noisebridge China Trips =
''If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:'' 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]] 
          That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print "geek tour"].
 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip to China 2013]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip to China 2014]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip to China 2015]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip to China 2016]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip to China 2017]]

--[[user: maltman23 | Mitch]].

= People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #8, 2018: =

'''Below is a list of people interested in going on next year's Hacker Trip To China.''' 
       ''If you are interested in joining this year's Trip, please enter your name in the table.'' 

'''PLEASE EMAIL ME after you enter your name in the table.''' 
       ''mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com''
 


'''You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!'''
 

'''Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:''' 
       ''mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com''

The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch) 
       -- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in Beijing (our Trip's starting city) 
           on or before 3-November-2018, are the people who are in this Trip. 
           (This probably means flying away from your home airport on or before 2-November-2018.) 


Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:        [http://www.flystein.com/ Flystein] Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.
 

{| style="color:green; background-color:#ffffcc;" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="1"
!
! Name
! Purchased flight?
! Flight info
|-
|1
|[[user: maltman23 | Mitch Altman]] (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: 27-Oct, 2:20pm, UA888, SFO-PEK
|-
|2
|Pan (Limassol Hackerspace, Cyprus)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|3
|[[user: alxd | Pawel Ngei]] (Global Innovation Gathering, Poland)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|4
|Star (Global Innovation Gathering, Poland / Kenya)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|5
|T Vishwarath Reddy (Labyrinth Tech, Bangalore)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|6
|Dimi[http://www.facebook.com/dimitriLH] (Limassol Hackerspace, Cyprus)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|7
|Mark Hellar (Hellar Studios)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|8
|Keir Winesmith (SFMOMA) 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|9
|Jay Mollica (SFMOMA) 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|10
|Alex C. 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|11
|[[user: drudru | Dru Nelson]] (Redwood City)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|12
|Rita Wu 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|13
|Bruno Rafael Aricó 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|14
|Eduardo Padilha 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|15
|Fernanda Monteiro Lopes 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|16
|Gloria
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|17
|Paul Hamilton [http://www.swmakers.org/](SW Makers, Australia)
|align="center"|Yes
|Arrive: 25th Oct, 14:40
|-
|18
|Diane Hamilton [http://www.swmakers.org/](SW Makers, Australia)
|align="center"|Yes
|Arrive: 25th Oct, 14:40
|-
|19
|Daniel Armstrong
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|20
|Freeman Murray
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|21
|Mayank Malik
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|22
|Yana - Foreign Eye
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|23
|Felix (Germany)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|24
|Max (Germany) 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|25
||[[user: cel | Charles Lehner]] (Sudo Room)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|26
|[[user: marlus | Marlus Araujo]] [http://marlus.com](Rio de Janeiro, Brasil)
|align="center"|Yes
|Arrive: 3rd Nov, 11:40
|-
|27
|Adrian Kelly (Noisebridge)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|28
|Michal Stefanow[https://MichalStefanow.com] (astralship, UK, Poland)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|29
|Leandra Tejedor
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|30
|Olivier de Saint-Hubert
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|31
|Martin Bähr 
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: already in china
|-
|32
|John Kunnath
        '''-- PLEASE EMAIL ME'''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|33
|Dan Royer
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|34
|Eitan Rieger
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|35
|''Michelle Lai''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|36
|''your name here''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|37
|''your name here''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|38
|''your name here''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|39
|''your name here''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|-
|40
|''your name here''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
|}

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NoisebridgeChinaTrip8

2018-05-11T21:09:31Z

Marlus:

= NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #8 -- Start Date: TBD -- perhaps 27-October-2018, in [city TBD] -- End Date: TBD -- perhaps 16-November-2018, in [city TBD]=

[[File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #4 Welcome to China!, Beijing]]

[[File:KungFuHacking_Nov_2013.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #3 Kung Fu Hacking: Hackers In Residence Kickoff event at Tsinghua University, Beijing]]

[[File:petrochemical_university.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #2 Visit to Petrochemical Univeristy, Beijing]]

[[File:Beijing_Oct_2009.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #1 Jingshan Park, Beijing]]

[[File:Shenzhen_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Visit to Seeed Studio's factory, Shenzhen]]

[[File:Zhenzhou_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Presentations at Zhengzhou High School #2, Zhengzhou]]
 
 
      It is looking likely that this year's Hacker Trip To China will be: 
            '''Start: 27-October-2018, in Beijing''' 
            '''End: 16-November-2018, in Hong Kong''' 
 
== Previous Hacker Trips To China ==
::''This will be the 8th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.'' 
::'''''(The dates are not set, the start and end cities are not set, and the itinerary will be an outline and open to change.)'''''
::''In previous years' Hacker Trips To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now starting hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live. Also, wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2016 we gave presentations at NY University - Shanghai, DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Shanghai Maker Carnival, Zhengzhou High School Number 2, "Second Generation and Start-ups" conference in Hangzhou.'' 

::''You can see info from the previous Trips: 
::''[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip To China 2013]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip To China 2014]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip To China 2015]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip To China 2016]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip To China 2017]]'' 

::-- [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]].

== This year's Hacker Trip To China ==
'''When:''' [date TBD -- '''probably 27-Oct'''] in [city TBD -- '''probably Beijing'''] 
                  through 
            [date TBD -- '''probably 16-Nov'''] in [city TBD -- '''probably Hong Kong'''].

'''Flight, transportation, and hotel Info''': We were each be on our own to book our own air fare to meet in our starting city, [city TBD], on [date TBD], and fly home from out ending city, [city TBD], on [date TBD]. Of course, you can decide to come and go as you please. 

I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China. 

'''Where:''' In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interested them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too! 

'''NOTE THAT THE INFO BELOW IS FROM LAST YEAR'S HTTC:''' 
'''Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:''' 
* We will start our trip by meeting in '''Hong Kong''' and visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs] hackerspace. Hong Kong is a fantastic city, so, we'll also see lots of other cool stuff in Hong Kong. [[Hong Kong Guide]] 
* Then we'll go across the border to mainland China again, to '''Shenzhen''' to visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/ Chaihuo Makerspace], [http://www.szdiy.org/ SZDIY] hackerspace, [http://litchee.cn/en/ Litchee Lab], and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are brand new (this year) over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We'll visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/xfactory/ x.factory] while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we will be welcomed for a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off their projects. We will also visit [http://www.seeedstudio.com Seeed Studio] - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of [http://dangerousprototypes.com/ Dangerous Prototypes] - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit Dorabot, a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print Huaqiangbei electronics market] in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by a professional buyer from Deal Extreme (dx.com). And if uhgall@gmail.com happens to be in town, we might visit [http://www.constellation.ws/ Constellation] or even stay in their factory dorm. 
* We will then make our way to '''Beijing''' where we may visit [http://www.bjmakerspace.com/ Beijing Makerspace], and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the world's largest hackerspace last year (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
* Our last city will be '''Shanghai'''. In Shanghai we will visit [http://www.etonnet.com/ my manufacturer (Etonnet)] that I have used for [http://www.tvbgone.com TV-B-Gone] remote controls and [http://www.neurodreamer.com NeuroDreamer] sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit [http://xinchejian.com/ XinCheJian] hackerspace in Shanghai. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as [http://www.dfrobot.com/ DFRobot]. We can visit Phicomm, a medium-sized OEM manufacturer. We can also visit the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/4064240200/in/set-72157622640069902/ Shanghai electronics mall] (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).

For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, [city TBD], on [date TBD].

''Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China. 

'''Cost:''' For the Hacker Trip To China 2017, I paid $2,656 total (for 4 weeks), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, a new smart phone, a bunch of new clothing, and everything. 
''As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University and other hosts that invite us to give presentations.''

'''#hashtag:''' [https://twitter.com/hashtag/httc2018 #httc2018]      (Hacker Trip To China 2018)

 
 

== Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 8 ==

'''NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFO IS FROM LAST YEAR'S HTTC'''

'''The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:'''
''7-October-2017 -- '''Leave home''' for '''Hong Kong''' (arrive in Hong Kong on 8-October)''
''8-October-2017 -- We all meet in '''Hong Kong''' -- hotel: various in Tsim Sha Tsui
'''8-October to 11-October -- Hong Kong'''
8-October, 8pm: Group dinner, TST
9-October, 12pm: Walk around with William Liang (Maker Hive, escalators, snacks)
9-October, 3pm-4pm: Veggie Sushi(!) in Prince Edwards (104 Lai Chi Kok Road)
9-October, 4:30pm: visit Looking Glass (startup that makes 3D video)
9-October, 6pm-8:30pm: visit [http://www.makerbay.org Maker Bay, Yau Tong], with presentations
9-October, 10pm-, Wan Chai drinks
10-October, 10am-3pm: Free time sightseeing Prince Edwards
(Temple Street Tin Hau Temple, Women Market, Bird Garden, Gold Fish market)
10-October, 3pm-5pm: Dim Sum (walk from Prince): Tim Ho Wan in Sham Shui Po
10-October, 5pm-7pm: Apliu Street Flea market, Spycams, Golden Computer center
10-October, 8pm-10pm: visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs], soldering workshop by Mitch, HackJam on rooftop
10-October, 12pm: LKF - Lan Kwai Fong bars
''11-October, afternoon -- ferry or subway to Shenzhen''
'''11-October to 16-October -- Shenzhen'''
''11-October -- hotel: Jinjiang Inn Shenzhen Huaqiang North''
11-October, 8pm: Group Dinner at Yunlaiju Vegetarian Restaurant
12-October, 10am-12pm: Product Life Cycle class at NOA Labs
12-October, 1pm-5pm: tour of Huaqiangbei (electronics markets) w/ Scotty (of Strange Parts), and others
12-October, afternoon: visit Troublemaker hackerspaces in Huaqianbei
12-October, 6:30pm: meetup at HAX -- Mitch gives presentation what worked (and didn't work) well with his TV-B-Gone startup -- others welcome to give presentations on their startup dos and don't-dos
13-October, 8am: leave hotel for visit to Seeed Studio AMC and factory tours (two separate groups)
13-October: Group A factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Zealfull (PCB), Jercio (LED), Honpe (plastic injection molding)
13-October: Group B factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Ashcloud (packing), King Brother (PCB), AMC (plastic injection molding)
13-October: 7pm: return to hotel from tour of factories (two separate groups)
14-October, 2pm: visit Dorabot (open hardware robot company)
14-October, 6pm-8pm: visit Lab 0x0 -- give demos!
15-October, 4pm-6pm: Chaihuo x.factory Bring-A-Hack
''16-October, 10:00am -- train G822 to Xi'an''
'''16-October to 19-October -- Xi'an'''
''16-October -- hotel: Vienna Hotel''
17-October, 9am-5pm: ShaanXi Makerspace tour and presentations
17-October, 5pm-8pm: special dinner
18-October, 8:30am-10am: Xi'an Innovation and Design Center Maker's Symposium
18-October, 10am-8pm: Xi'an traditional maker and culture hands-on tour
''19-October, 12:42pm -- train G658 to Beijing''
'''19-October to 24-October -- Beijing'''
''19-October -- hotel: various: in hutongs NE of Jinshan Park''
20-October, 1:30pm: Tsinghua University iCenter
21-October, 12pm: art galleries and 798 with Gloria
23-October, 1:30pm: meet-and-greet with Tsinghua University students
23-October, 5pm: visit Makebator
23-October, 6pm-9pm: Beijing LUG dinner and meeting
''24-October, 2:00pm -- train G3 to Shanghai''
'''24-October to 28-October -- Shanghai''' ''
''24-October -- hotel: Le Tour Traveler's Rest International Youth Hostel''
25-October, 3pm-4pm: [Messed this up by going to the wrong NYU campus] meet-and-greet at Interactive Media Arts (IMA) at NYU Shanghai
26-October, morning: visit Yagr/Etonnet (Mitch's manufacturer)
26-October, evening: DFRobot/Mushroom Cloud visit and presentations
27-October, 7pm-9pm: XinCheJian Global Forum -- presentations by 13 if us
''28-October-2017 -- '''fly home''' (arrive NA or EU on same day)''

== Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation ==
One of the two Noah's who were on the HTTC2017 wrote [[Noahs_Guide|this very useful guide]]!

== Hong Kong Guide ==
[[Hong Kong Guide]]

 
 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2017==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2017HongKong.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2017Xian.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665928352469/ Hong Kong, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665929390189/ Shenzhen, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052606231/ Xi'an, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052837801/ Beijing, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157687009709482/ Shanghai, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688893716634/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2017] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157665931188619/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2017 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2016Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2016Zhenzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2016Hangzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672475058474/ Shanghai, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157674645655612/ Zhengzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676024748146/ Shenzhen, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676142107066/ Beijing, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676144570756/ Hangzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672603805234/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157674928976010/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2016 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2015HongKongNeon.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShenzhenFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShanghaiTempleMall.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingDoor.jpg
File:HTTC2015HangzhouTemple.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingShop.jpg
File:HTTC2015SuzhouUmbrellas.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157659076735178 Hong Kong, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660026965949 Shenzhen, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660038275888 Shanghai, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157658114137264 Beijing, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660424228042 YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660650175925 Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157658310336814 Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157660374807166/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2015 all in one place]


 
[https://picasaweb.google.com/dtharn/ChinaInOctober2015?feat=directlink Dave's photos]

 
Blake's photos:
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/sets/72157662429341996 Hong Kong!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660150285384 Shenzen!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157661790873029 Shanghai!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660153522904 Beijing!]
 

Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/Q840rT Hong Kong] 
Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/yLo903 Shenzhen] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskqNiQeX Beijing] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskrE55NX Shanghai] 

 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod_b.jpg
File:HTTC2014AiWeiWei.jpg
File:HTTC2014BeijingLGBTcentre.jpg
File:HTTC2014Brooms.jpg
File:HTTC2014CableFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2014ChaiHuo.jpg
File:HTTC2014GiantSewing.jpg
File:HTTC2014Huaqianbei.jpg
File:HTTC2014IEIK2014.jpg
File:HTTC2014SeeedStudio.jpg
File:HTTC2014Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tianjin.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tienanmen.jpg
File:HTTC2014TrainConvenienceStore.jpg
File:HTTC2014TsinghuaMakersDay.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod.jpg
File:HTTC2014XinCheJian.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157646894397704/ Beijing, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648975298719/ Shanghai, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648981933060/ Shenzhen, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649396351315/ Kunshan, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649148594118/ Shanghai (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146775640/ Beijing (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146987360/ Tianjin, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157647372474753/ Beijing (3), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649287546450/ Singapore, Dec-2014] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157649162773126/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2014 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== You will Need a Chinese Visa!! ==
To go to China, you needed to get a visa!

Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).

* And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid ''at least'' 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 28-October-2017, then your passport needs to be valid through 27-October-2017). Your passport must also have at least ''one entirely blank page''.

* You also need:
** a printout of a filled-out [http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fd/W020130830801798289342.pdf Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China] (after we have everything we need I'll email you my filled out form as an example to follow).
** a copy of the information pages of your passport.
** a copy of your most Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
** one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
** a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
** a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).

* For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting this year, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years. We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.

You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. ''Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.''

To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.) 
''NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for Chinese holidays! Please check the dates! For 2017 these dates were: 27-30 January, 29-30 May, 30-May, 9-June, 4-July, 4-September, 2-October, 9-October and other dates: 
[http://www.chinaconsulatesf.org/eng/lszj/t1424287.htm 2017 Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule]''
 
(Citizens of US and Europe ''do not'' need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)
 

= Previous Noisebridge China Trips =
''If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:'' 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]] 
          That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print "geek tour"].
 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip to China 2013]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip to China 2014]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip to China 2015]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip to China 2016]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip to China 2017]]

--[[user: maltman23 | Mitch]].

= People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #8, 2018: =


'''Below is a list of people interested in going on next year's Hacker Trip To China.'''
 


'''You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!'''
 

'''Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:''' 
''mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com''

The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch) 
-- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in our Trip's starting city (TBD) on or before [date TBD] are the people who are in this Trip        (which probably means flying away from home on or before [date TBD minus one day] 


Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:        [http://www.flystein.com/ Flystein] Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.
 

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|[[user: maltman23 | Mitch Altman]] (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA)
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|[[user: alxd | Pawel Ngei]] (Global Innovation Gathering, Poland)
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|[[user: drudru | Dru Nelson]] (Redwood City)
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|Gloria
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|''|[[user: cel | Charles Lehner]] (Sudo Room)
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NoisebridgeChinaTrip8

2018-05-11T21:08:05Z

Marlus: adding my name to the list

= NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #8 -- Start Date: TBD -- perhaps 27-October-2018, in [city TBD] -- End Date: TBD -- perhaps 16-November-2018, in [city TBD]=

[[File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #4 Welcome to China!, Beijing]]

[[File:KungFuHacking_Nov_2013.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #3 Kung Fu Hacking: Hackers In Residence Kickoff event at Tsinghua University, Beijing]]

[[File:petrochemical_university.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #2 Visit to Petrochemical Univeristy, Beijing]]

[[File:Beijing_Oct_2009.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #1 Jingshan Park, Beijing]]

[[File:Shenzhen_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Visit to Seeed Studio's factory, Shenzhen]]

[[File:Zhenzhou_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Presentations at Zhengzhou High School #2, Zhengzhou]]
 
 
      It is looking likely that this year's Hacker Trip To China will be: 
            '''Start: 27-October-2018, in Beijing''' 
            '''End: 16-November-2018, in Hong Kong''' 
 
== Previous Hacker Trips To China ==
::''This will be the 8th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.'' 
::'''''(The dates are not set, the start and end cities are not set, and the itinerary will be an outline and open to change.)'''''
::''In previous years' Hacker Trips To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now starting hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live. Also, wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2016 we gave presentations at NY University - Shanghai, DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Shanghai Maker Carnival, Zhengzhou High School Number 2, "Second Generation and Start-ups" conference in Hangzhou.'' 

::''You can see info from the previous Trips: 
::''[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip To China 2013]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip To China 2014]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip To China 2015]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip To China 2016]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip To China 2017]]'' 

::-- [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]].

== This year's Hacker Trip To China ==
'''When:''' [date TBD -- '''probably 27-Oct'''] in [city TBD -- '''probably Beijing'''] 
                  through 
            [date TBD -- '''probably 16-Nov'''] in [city TBD -- '''probably Hong Kong'''].

'''Flight, transportation, and hotel Info''': We were each be on our own to book our own air fare to meet in our starting city, [city TBD], on [date TBD], and fly home from out ending city, [city TBD], on [date TBD]. Of course, you can decide to come and go as you please. 

I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China. 

'''Where:''' In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interested them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too! 

'''NOTE THAT THE INFO BELOW IS FROM LAST YEAR'S HTTC:''' 
'''Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:''' 
* We will start our trip by meeting in '''Hong Kong''' and visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs] hackerspace. Hong Kong is a fantastic city, so, we'll also see lots of other cool stuff in Hong Kong. [[Hong Kong Guide]] 
* Then we'll go across the border to mainland China again, to '''Shenzhen''' to visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/ Chaihuo Makerspace], [http://www.szdiy.org/ SZDIY] hackerspace, [http://litchee.cn/en/ Litchee Lab], and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are brand new (this year) over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We'll visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/xfactory/ x.factory] while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we will be welcomed for a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off their projects. We will also visit [http://www.seeedstudio.com Seeed Studio] - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of [http://dangerousprototypes.com/ Dangerous Prototypes] - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit Dorabot, a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print Huaqiangbei electronics market] in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by a professional buyer from Deal Extreme (dx.com). And if uhgall@gmail.com happens to be in town, we might visit [http://www.constellation.ws/ Constellation] or even stay in their factory dorm. 
* We will then make our way to '''Beijing''' where we may visit [http://www.bjmakerspace.com/ Beijing Makerspace], and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the world's largest hackerspace last year (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
* Our last city will be '''Shanghai'''. In Shanghai we will visit [http://www.etonnet.com/ my manufacturer (Etonnet)] that I have used for [http://www.tvbgone.com TV-B-Gone] remote controls and [http://www.neurodreamer.com NeuroDreamer] sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit [http://xinchejian.com/ XinCheJian] hackerspace in Shanghai. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as [http://www.dfrobot.com/ DFRobot]. We can visit Phicomm, a medium-sized OEM manufacturer. We can also visit the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/4064240200/in/set-72157622640069902/ Shanghai electronics mall] (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).

For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, [city TBD], on [date TBD].

''Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China. 

'''Cost:''' For the Hacker Trip To China 2017, I paid $2,656 total (for 4 weeks), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, a new smart phone, a bunch of new clothing, and everything. 
''As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University and other hosts that invite us to give presentations.''

'''#hashtag:''' [https://twitter.com/hashtag/httc2018 #httc2018]      (Hacker Trip To China 2018)

 
 

== Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 8 ==

'''NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFO IS FROM LAST YEAR'S HTTC'''

'''The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:'''
''7-October-2017 -- '''Leave home''' for '''Hong Kong''' (arrive in Hong Kong on 8-October)''
''8-October-2017 -- We all meet in '''Hong Kong''' -- hotel: various in Tsim Sha Tsui
'''8-October to 11-October -- Hong Kong'''
8-October, 8pm: Group dinner, TST
9-October, 12pm: Walk around with William Liang (Maker Hive, escalators, snacks)
9-October, 3pm-4pm: Veggie Sushi(!) in Prince Edwards (104 Lai Chi Kok Road)
9-October, 4:30pm: visit Looking Glass (startup that makes 3D video)
9-October, 6pm-8:30pm: visit [http://www.makerbay.org Maker Bay, Yau Tong], with presentations
9-October, 10pm-, Wan Chai drinks
10-October, 10am-3pm: Free time sightseeing Prince Edwards
(Temple Street Tin Hau Temple, Women Market, Bird Garden, Gold Fish market)
10-October, 3pm-5pm: Dim Sum (walk from Prince): Tim Ho Wan in Sham Shui Po
10-October, 5pm-7pm: Apliu Street Flea market, Spycams, Golden Computer center
10-October, 8pm-10pm: visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs], soldering workshop by Mitch, HackJam on rooftop
10-October, 12pm: LKF - Lan Kwai Fong bars
''11-October, afternoon -- ferry or subway to Shenzhen''
'''11-October to 16-October -- Shenzhen'''
''11-October -- hotel: Jinjiang Inn Shenzhen Huaqiang North''
11-October, 8pm: Group Dinner at Yunlaiju Vegetarian Restaurant
12-October, 10am-12pm: Product Life Cycle class at NOA Labs
12-October, 1pm-5pm: tour of Huaqiangbei (electronics markets) w/ Scotty (of Strange Parts), and others
12-October, afternoon: visit Troublemaker hackerspaces in Huaqianbei
12-October, 6:30pm: meetup at HAX -- Mitch gives presentation what worked (and didn't work) well with his TV-B-Gone startup -- others welcome to give presentations on their startup dos and don't-dos
13-October, 8am: leave hotel for visit to Seeed Studio AMC and factory tours (two separate groups)
13-October: Group A factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Zealfull (PCB), Jercio (LED), Honpe (plastic injection molding)
13-October: Group B factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Ashcloud (packing), King Brother (PCB), AMC (plastic injection molding)
13-October: 7pm: return to hotel from tour of factories (two separate groups)
14-October, 2pm: visit Dorabot (open hardware robot company)
14-October, 6pm-8pm: visit Lab 0x0 -- give demos!
15-October, 4pm-6pm: Chaihuo x.factory Bring-A-Hack
''16-October, 10:00am -- train G822 to Xi'an''
'''16-October to 19-October -- Xi'an'''
''16-October -- hotel: Vienna Hotel''
17-October, 9am-5pm: ShaanXi Makerspace tour and presentations
17-October, 5pm-8pm: special dinner
18-October, 8:30am-10am: Xi'an Innovation and Design Center Maker's Symposium
18-October, 10am-8pm: Xi'an traditional maker and culture hands-on tour
''19-October, 12:42pm -- train G658 to Beijing''
'''19-October to 24-October -- Beijing'''
''19-October -- hotel: various: in hutongs NE of Jinshan Park''
20-October, 1:30pm: Tsinghua University iCenter
21-October, 12pm: art galleries and 798 with Gloria
23-October, 1:30pm: meet-and-greet with Tsinghua University students
23-October, 5pm: visit Makebator
23-October, 6pm-9pm: Beijing LUG dinner and meeting
''24-October, 2:00pm -- train G3 to Shanghai''
'''24-October to 28-October -- Shanghai''' ''
''24-October -- hotel: Le Tour Traveler's Rest International Youth Hostel''
25-October, 3pm-4pm: [Messed this up by going to the wrong NYU campus] meet-and-greet at Interactive Media Arts (IMA) at NYU Shanghai
26-October, morning: visit Yagr/Etonnet (Mitch's manufacturer)
26-October, evening: DFRobot/Mushroom Cloud visit and presentations
27-October, 7pm-9pm: XinCheJian Global Forum -- presentations by 13 if us
''28-October-2017 -- '''fly home''' (arrive NA or EU on same day)''

== Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation ==
One of the two Noah's who were on the HTTC2017 wrote [[Noahs_Guide|this very useful guide]]!

== Hong Kong Guide ==
[[Hong Kong Guide]]

 
 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2017==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2017HongKong.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2017Xian.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2017Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2017Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665928352469/ Hong Kong, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157665929390189/ Shenzhen, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052606231/ Xi'an, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688052837801/ Beijing, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157687009709482/ Shanghai, Oct-2017] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157688893716634/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2017] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157665931188619/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2017 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2016Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2016Zhenzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2016Hangzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672475058474/ Shanghai, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157674645655612/ Zhengzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676024748146/ Shenzhen, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676142107066/ Beijing, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676144570756/ Hangzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672603805234/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157674928976010/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2016 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2015HongKongNeon.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShenzhenFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShanghaiTempleMall.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingDoor.jpg
File:HTTC2015HangzhouTemple.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingShop.jpg
File:HTTC2015SuzhouUmbrellas.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157659076735178 Hong Kong, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660026965949 Shenzhen, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660038275888 Shanghai, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157658114137264 Beijing, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660424228042 YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660650175925 Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157658310336814 Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157660374807166/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2015 all in one place]


 
[https://picasaweb.google.com/dtharn/ChinaInOctober2015?feat=directlink Dave's photos]

 
Blake's photos:
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/sets/72157662429341996 Hong Kong!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660150285384 Shenzen!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157661790873029 Shanghai!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660153522904 Beijing!]
 

Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/Q840rT Hong Kong] 
Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/yLo903 Shenzhen] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskqNiQeX Beijing] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskrE55NX Shanghai] 

 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod_b.jpg
File:HTTC2014AiWeiWei.jpg
File:HTTC2014BeijingLGBTcentre.jpg
File:HTTC2014Brooms.jpg
File:HTTC2014CableFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2014ChaiHuo.jpg
File:HTTC2014GiantSewing.jpg
File:HTTC2014Huaqianbei.jpg
File:HTTC2014IEIK2014.jpg
File:HTTC2014SeeedStudio.jpg
File:HTTC2014Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tianjin.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tienanmen.jpg
File:HTTC2014TrainConvenienceStore.jpg
File:HTTC2014TsinghuaMakersDay.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod.jpg
File:HTTC2014XinCheJian.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157646894397704/ Beijing, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648975298719/ Shanghai, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648981933060/ Shenzhen, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649396351315/ Kunshan, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649148594118/ Shanghai (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146775640/ Beijing (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146987360/ Tianjin, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157647372474753/ Beijing (3), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649287546450/ Singapore, Dec-2014] 


[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157649162773126/ Mitch's photos for HTTC 2014 all in one place]


 
 
 
 

== You will Need a Chinese Visa!! ==
To go to China, you needed to get a visa!

Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).

* And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid ''at least'' 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 28-October-2017, then your passport needs to be valid through 27-October-2017). Your passport must also have at least ''one entirely blank page''.

* You also need:
** a printout of a filled-out [http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fd/W020130830801798289342.pdf Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China] (after we have everything we need I'll email you my filled out form as an example to follow).
** a copy of the information pages of your passport.
** a copy of your most Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
** one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
** a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
** a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).

* For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting this year, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years. We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.

You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. ''Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.''

To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.) 
''NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for Chinese holidays! Please check the dates! For 2017 these dates were: 27-30 January, 29-30 May, 30-May, 9-June, 4-July, 4-September, 2-October, 9-October and other dates: 
[http://www.chinaconsulatesf.org/eng/lszj/t1424287.htm 2017 Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule]''
 
(Citizens of US and Europe ''do not'' need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)
 

= Previous Noisebridge China Trips =
''If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:'' 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]] 
          That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print "geek tour"].
 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip to China 2013]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip to China 2014]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip to China 2015]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip to China 2016]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip7|Hacker Trip to China 2017]]

--[[user: maltman23 | Mitch]].

= People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #8, 2018: =


'''Below is a list of people interested in going on next year's Hacker Trip To China.'''
 


'''You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!'''
 

'''Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:''' 
''mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com''

The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch) 
-- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in our Trip's starting city (TBD) on or before [date TBD] are the people who are in this Trip        (which probably means flying away from home on or before [date TBD minus one day] 


Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:        [http://www.flystein.com/ Flystein] Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.
 

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|[[user: maltman23 | Mitch Altman]] (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA)
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|''Pan (Limassol Hackerspace, Cyprus)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
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|[[user: alxd | Pawel Ngei]] (Global Innovation Gathering, Poland)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
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|Star (Global Innovation Gathering, Poland / Kenya)
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|Arrive: TBD
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|5
|T Vishwarath Reddy (Labyrinth Tech, Bangalore)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
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|6
|Dimi[http://www.facebook.com/dimitriLH] (Limassol Hackerspace, Cyprus)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
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|7
|''Mark Hellar (Hellar Studios)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD'
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|8
|''Keir Winesmith (SFMOMA)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|9
|''Jay Mollica (SFMOMA)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: 'TBD''
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|10
|''Alex C.
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|11
|[[user: drudru | Dru Nelson]] (Redwood City)
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|12
|''Rita Wu
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|13
|''Bruno Rafael Aricó
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|14
|''Eduardo Padilha
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|15
|''Fernanda Monteiro Lopes
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|16
|Gloria
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|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
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|17
|''Paul Hamilton
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|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
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|18
|''Diane Hamilton
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|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
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|19
|''Daniel Armstrong
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|20
|''Freeman Murray
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|21
|''Mayank Malik
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|22
|''Yana - Foreign Eye
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|23
|''Felix (Germany)
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|Arrive: ''TBD''
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|24
|''Max (Germany)
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|Arrive: ''TDB''
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|25
|''|[[user: cel | Charles Lehner]] (Sudo Room)
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|Arrive: ''your arrival info here''
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|26
|[[user: marlus | Marlus Araujo]] (Mirabilis, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil)
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|''your name here
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