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Science For Juggalos

2010-06-05T20:08:11Z

Laszlo: /* Faygo */ fructose clarification

[[Image:ICP_Magnets.png|250px|thumb|right]]

==About==
It has come to our attention that the fans of the band "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_clown_posse The Insane Clown Posse]" ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo Juggalos]) lack basic scientific understanding on subjects like fucking magnetism, light, and nature. Fortunately, several of these Juggalos will be outside the [http://thewarfieldtheatre.com/eventdetail.php?id=26910 Warfield Theater on June 5th, 2010], and we feel this is the perfect opportunity to resolve their ignorance.

To that end, we will be setting up a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fair Science Fair] outside the Warfield between 6pm-8pm to demonstrate several of the scientific principles which seem to cause the Juggalos such confusion.

==Participate==
There are several ways to participate in this event. Just add yourself as a volunteer to any section you'd like. No matter which you choose, please arrive at NoiseBridge at 4pm this Saturday, June 5th. There will be punch and pie.

===Scientists===
[[Image:ICP_Scientists.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Scientists be lyin]]

If you would like to teach science to Juggalos, please prepare a hand-held scientific demonstration based on any of the subjects from the ICP song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs 'Miracles'].
We will be hosting a planning meeting to discuss our science fair projects at 7pm on Wednesday, June 2nd, at Noisebridge. You don't have to come to the planning meeting to participate, just show up on Saturday.

We will be providing the following equipment for scientists:
* Borrowed Lab Coats (for mad science)
* Safety Goggles
* Poster Board + Markers

Scientists:
* Hephaestus
* Bob Dole
* Lamont
* Crutcher
* Dr. Laszlo "McMurder" Fuggnutz
* [[User:sofauxboho|Reed]] (doing solar eclipse)
* Parintachin

Lab assistants (i.e. help prep, but not appear as scientist at the event):
* DrSyzygy/Mikael
* [[User:Miah|Miah]]
* Doctor Popular

===Documentarians===
If you don't want to teach, but still want to participate in this event, please bring a camera and help document our endeavor.

Documentarians:
* Everfalling
* DrSyzygy/Mikael
* Ani

===Security===
Several Juggalos don't want to talk to a scientist. They feel we be lyin, and gettin them pissed. For this reason, we would like a couple of volunteers to act as security for our scientists and documentarians.

Security:
* Al Gore
* a big guy

==Things that aren't Miracles==
[[Image:ICP_MagnetsHow.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Magnets are not miracles!]]
[[Image:ICP_Giraffe.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Giraffes are not miracles!]]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramids Pyramids]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls Niagara Falls]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean Oceans]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star Stars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain Mountains]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree Trees]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea Seas]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava Lava]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow Snow]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain Rain]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog Fog]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets Pets]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun Sun]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon Moon]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars Mars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way Milky Way]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_Star Shooting Stars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFOs UFOs]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers Rivers]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trees Trees]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows Rainbows]
:I can take this one. However, it might be better if we had a more focused presentation on magnets, but with some ancillary experts on topics that Juggalos may be interested in. [[User:Flipzagging|Flipzagging]] 17:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:This is the one I've sat an thought about presentation ideas for. Really depends on how deep one wants to go - Huygens-Fresnel and wavefronts bending will need to be around if we wanna dig down, but the basic idea I've been thinking about is "Light bends when it slows down. Different materials let light go at different speeds. It all depends on wavelengths, and thus on color. Look here - a prism and a white LED keychain." [[User:Michiexile|Michiexile]] 02:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Richard Feynmann attempts to answer this question, with difficulty, after [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM explaining that any answer he gives is likely to be unsatisfying]. It's hard to discuss the fundamental forces in any terms other than their own. Mandatory listening for whoever's doing the magnets poster. -[[Special:Contributions/76.215.56.38|76.215.56.38]] 19:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Light never slows down, ever. Different colors refract at different angles because of their energy level. But all colors regardless of wavelength travel at the same speed - the speed of light. [[User:quasar|quasar]]
:Michiexile is correct. The velocity of light varies within substances. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell%27s_law Snell's Law] expresses the index of refraction at the boundary of two substances as the ratio of the the velocities of light within those substances. For example light goes almost half as fast through arsenic trisulfide as it does in air, so arsenic trisulfide has an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refractive_indices#List IOR] of 1.9. -[[User:Laszlo|Laszlo]] 18:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I did not know that. I see what you're saying. The way I'm reading it, it's not the light slowing down so much as light taking a break and spending some time in an electron. [[user:quasar|quasar]]
:A first approximation at something that can be said, and quickly, to this subject:
:http://img.skitch.com/20100604-p6kip79xgceh24ane4gqsjrwpy.png
:[[User:Michiexile|Michiexile]] 22:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::How far do you want to go into this? "Why does light bend?" Eventually you will start to overlap with the magnet explanation! :) --[[User:Macegr|Macegr]] 22:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It won't take long at all to start overlapping with magnets here. Not all that surprising either! The next step, however, is to talk about Huygens-Fresnel, and viewing each point along the refraction boundary as a wavesource, and then showing how the speed change makes the wavefronts change direction. Going even this deep, however, puts the whole explanation way past the one-sentence explanation, and even way past the 1-minute elevator talk. [[User:Michiexile|Michiexile]] 17:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Another part that I haven't even started to adress is "Why is the rainbow round?" - which ties in with the rainbow "really" being a circle, and with how we see each colour only through the exact raindrops that are at the right position for the light to bend just right to hit our eye - which happens, for a point-shaped light source (the sun) to be in a circle: the circle of things that are just the right amount of (angular) distance from a straight line, thus giving the circular "rainbow". Final bit of _this_ explanation, then, is the observation that usually, rainbows are visible with the sun in such an angle that the rainbow is partially hidden by the horizon. [[User:Michiexile|Michiexile]] 17:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm bringing a colour printout of the illustration I linked above today. If anybody wants to use it in an explanation of rainbows, that's awesome; otherwise - big deal. I'm a lab assistant, not a scientist (see above), anyway, so I won't do that much explanation tonight.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air Air]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire Fire]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water Water]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Eclipse Solar Eclipses] (dibs - Reed)
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather Weather]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnets Magnets]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelicans Pelicans]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffes Giraffes]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music Music]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love Love]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt Dirt]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphosis Metamorphosis]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics Genetics]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crows Crows]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts Ghosts]

Laszlo would like to present [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance cognitive dissonance theory] as an explanation for how misattributed anger toward scientists can lead to their [http://tongodeon.livejournal.com/900861.html mischaracterization as motherfucking liars].

==Things that are Miracles==

* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs#t=2m13s That the children of the ICP do indeed look like them] Not a miracle for most parents, but exceptional in this particular instance.

==Awesome Acoustic Cover==
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1GaZv_yB6c Miracles]

== Faygo ==
Faygo soda abuse may cause obesity and cause premature death to the otherwise immortal clownz so I'm thinking to do a poster about the health benefits of "less is more" when it comes to Faygo. This is possibly a risky strategy as this pop is their holy sacrament and I'm not suggesting criticizing it, only advocating judicious use of this powerful high-fructose corn syrup-based sacrament.—Parintachin
: Consider going into the [http://tongodeon.livejournal.com/893076.html metabolic breakdown of fructose]. I wasn't really sold on sugar being a problem until I saw Dr. Lustig's talk, and he's got some good stuff there. The catch is that sucrose is 50% fructose, and HFCS is 55%, so it's almost as bad either way. -[[User:Laszlo|Laszlo]] 20:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Science For Juggalos

2010-06-05T20:07:20Z

Laszlo: /* Faygo */

Science For Juggalos

2010-06-04T19:06:58Z

Laszlo: /* Scientists */ +Laszlo

[[Image:ICP_Magnets.png|250px|thumb|right]]

==About==
It has come to our attention that the fans of the band "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_clown_posse The Insane Clown Posse]" ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo Juggalos]) lack basic scientific understanding on subjects like fucking magnetism, light, and nature. Fortunately, several of these Juggalos will be outside the [http://thewarfieldtheatre.com/eventdetail.php?id=26910 Warfield Theater on June 5th, 2010], and we feel this is the perfect opportunity to resolve their ignorance.

To that end, we will be setting up a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fair Science Fair] outside the Warfield between 6pm-8pm to demonstrate several of the scientific principles which seem to cause the Juggalos such confusion.

==Participate==
There are several ways to participate in this event. Just add yourself as a volunteer to any section you'd like. No matter which you choose, please arrive at NoiseBridge at 4pm this Saturday, June 5th. There will be punch and pie.

===Scientists===
[[Image:ICP_Scientists.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Scientists be lyin]]

If you would like to teach science to Juggalos, please prepare a hand-held scientific demonstration based on any of the subjects from the ICP song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs 'Miracles'].
We will be hosting a planning meeting to discuss our science fair projects at 7pm on Wednesday, June 2nd, at Noisebridge. You don't have to come to the planning meeting to participate, just show up on Saturday.

We will be providing the following equipment for scientists:
* Borrowed Lab Coats (for mad science)
* Safety Goggles
* Poster Board + Markers

Scientists:
* Hephaestus
* Bob Dole
* Lamont
* Crutcher
* Dr. Laszlo "McMurder" Fuggnutz

Lab assistants (i.e. help prep, but not appear as scientist at the event):
* DrSyzygy/Mikael
* [[User:Miah|Miah]]
* Doctor Popular

===Documentarians===
If you don't want to teach, but still want to participate in this event, please bring a camera and help document our endeavor.

Documentarians:
* Everfalling
* DrSyzygy/Mikael
* Ani

===Security===
Several Juggalos don't want to talk to a scientist. They feel we be lyin, and gettin them pissed. For this reason, we would like a couple of volunteers to act as security for our scientists and documentarians.

Security:
* Al Gore
* a big guy

==Things that aren't Miracles==
[[Image:ICP_MagnetsHow.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Magnets are not miracles!]]
[[Image:ICP_Giraffe.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Giraffes are not miracles!]]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramids Pyramids]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls Niagara Falls]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean Oceans]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star Stars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain Mountains]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree Trees]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea Seas]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava Lava]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow Snow]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain Rain]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog Fog]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets Pets]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun Sun]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon Moon]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars Mars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way Milky Way]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_Star Shooting Stars]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFOs UFOs]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers Rivers]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trees Trees]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows Rainbows]
:I can take this one. However, it might be better if we had a more focused presentation on magnets, but with some ancillary experts on topics that Juggalos may be interested in. [[User:Flipzagging|Flipzagging]] 17:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:This is the one I've sat an thought about presentation ideas for. Really depends on how deep one wants to go - Huygens-Fresnel and wavefronts bending will need to be around if we wanna dig down, but the basic idea I've been thinking about is "Light bends when it slows down. Different materials let light go at different speeds. It all depends on wavelengths, and thus on color. Look here - a prism and a white LED keychain." [[User:Michiexile|Michiexile]] 02:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::Richard Feynmann attempts to answer this question, with difficulty, after [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM explaining that any answer he gives is likely to be unsatisfying]. It's hard to discuss the fundamental forces in any terms other than their own. Mandatory listening for whoever's doing the magnets poster. -[[Special:Contributions/76.215.56.38|76.215.56.38]] 19:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Light never slows down, ever. Different colors refract at different angles because of their energy level. But all colors regardless of wavelength travel at the same speed - the speed of light. [[User:quasar|quasar]]
:Michiexile is correct. The velocity of light varies within substances. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell%27s_law Snell's Law] expresses the index of refraction at the boundary of two substances as the ratio of the the velocities of light within those substances. For example light goes almost half as fast through arsenic trisulfide as it does in air, so arsenic trisulfide has an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refractive_indices#List IOR] of 1.9. -[[User:Laszlo|Laszlo]] 18:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I did not know that. I see what you're saying. The way I'm reading it, it's not the light slowing down so much as light taking a break and spending some time in an electron. [[user:quasar|quasar]]

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air Air]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire Fire]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water Water]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Eclipse Solar Eclipses]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather Weather]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnets Magnets]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelicans Pelicans]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffes Giraffes]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music Music]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love Love]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt Dirt]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphosis Metamorphosis]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics Genetics]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crows Crows]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts Ghosts]

Laszlo would like to present [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance cognitive dissonance theory] as an explanation for how misattributed anger toward scientists can lead to their [http://tongodeon.livejournal.com/900861.html mischaracterization as motherfucking liars].

==Things that are Miracles==

* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs#t=2m13s That the children of the ICP do indeed look like them] Not a miracle for most parents, but exceptional in this particular instance.

==Awesome Acoustic Cover==
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1GaZv_yB6c Miracles]

Science For Juggalos

2010-06-02T18:20:37Z

Laszlo: /* Things that aren't Miracles */ velocity of light and IOR

Science For Juggalos

2010-06-02T18:10:41Z

Laszlo: /* Things that aren't Miracles */ cognitive dissonance