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Meeting Notes 2022 05 17

2022-06-08T04:13:39Z

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{{meetings}}

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 678th Meeting of Noisebridge].

*Live notes
**https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Virtual Meeting (jitsi mic/cam off by default)
**https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium#config.startWithAudioMuted=true&config.startWithVideoMuted=true&userInfo.displayName=%22n00b%22
**Backup link: https://meet.jit.si/noisebridge

Date: 2022_05_17

Edit the meeting number above where it says the XXXth meeting of Noisebridge (by checking previous meetings)

ALSO EDIT PREVIOUS AND NEXT DATES IN THE WIKI LINKS BELOW

[[Meeting_Notes_2022_05_10|Previous Meeting]]

[[Meeting_Notes_2022_05_24|Next Meeting]]

Note-takers: Olexei (temporarily)

Moderators: Dave

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST

TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New philanthropists:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Sahas - putting together 3d printer
* raphael - used to hang out at the old space, haven't been since. looking to make antennas
* ryan any/all - fucking with a flipper zero
* Sophia she/her -
* Elan (he/him/they) - ML and wiki stuff

= Excellence =
Sophia explained today

= Short announcements and events =
None today

* (elanhr) I want to restart #Spacebridge this summer and hopefully launch a weather balloon. Will put together a meetup for interested peeps early next month. Get in contact

* TJ - 5MoF is on Thursday!!! Get hyped!

== New members/philanthropists ==
What are they? Is anyone trying to become a philanthropist or Member? If not move on. No long discussions.

= Financial Report =
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

TJ: maybe there could be two treasurers or something??

themanmaran
4:11 PM
...I would like to meet with some people and (ideally) hand off the treasurer responsibility entirely. I know I'm behind on reimbursements, and I've been 100% clocked out from noisebridge lately.

There was a finance working group at one point, and almost all of them exited noisebridge as a result.
Tasks can't be too distributed, or else we run into security issues. Max two people on the bank account I'd say.
Also the more distributed, the more confusing it is ('who do I ask', 'who's gonna pay this bill,' etc.)

4:35
I think there needs to be a point person. Both for legal and organizational reasons.
And this person needs to understand that it's a multi year job.
4:35
If we have a bunch of "treasurer of the month" type people, it's gonna get really messy.

== Spending Needs ==
Gotta spend money on XYZ (i.e. Gate, wiring etc.). WHO CAN SIGN THE CHECK OR LEND THE CREDIT CARD!?!?! It doesn't matter if we agree to do something and it can’t be paid for.

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

(elanhr) Who has access to the donations DB?
I fixed donation page to let ppl donate to specific projects but dont have access to the donations DB. If anyone knows who would have access - need access to add projects to prod page.

= Big C Consensus Items =
Last week mark put up a consensus item: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2022_05_10#Big_C_Consensus_Items

TJ: we want to have a mid-point for all the vaccination card stuff. The previous things were all 90-day. This one is permanent.

Monique: you have to fall back on the venue for rules and stuff.

Emily: that's a good point

Monique: we have to follow the facility's rules, not our own (for other things).

Dave: here we want to give people default anonymity.

Monique: how do you inform people?

Dave: you're supposed to ask them.

sophia: we used to care but don't anymore

Emily: a lot of people might have covid and less people with vaxx

dave: i'll try to make a sign today to enforce existing consensus

various discussion we couldn't catch

TJ: we're trying to just keep the old consensus going

Dave: perhaps this is just a slightly different emphasis

TJ: this is why we talk about consensus items

Dave: anything else on this discussion item?

Elan: The issue kept getting brought up that not asking for vax card to ask for anonymity, easy to cover the name when showing vax card.

Sophia: Don't like to go to places and pull out government id

Dave: Some of us don't like our name, and are morally opposed to id.

monique: what if they come several times, are you going to make them show itagain

tj: my reasoning is: if it ain't broke don't fix it. this whole thing was brought up because i followed the existing procedure and filtered out someone who was unvaccinated. in the situation where all the hullabaloo came from, it worked. Does t

Dave: I think a sign will help me remember

Loren: We arrived at a balance point. Is there anything different about now? Same language, extending timeline is fine. 90 days -> permanent. People want to re-visit this, don't know why people can oppose will now when they couldn't before

Dane: We need more visible signage, ask upon tour. Doing healthy practices

Farley: Ask about Ronald situation. Big C consensus or discussion item?

Dave: Only done consensus for 86, just de - Membering.

Dave: Apologies for not paying attention, will stand next to Jitsi. Have something new, say it now.

= Discussion =

== Monique wants to host an event ==

Someone in the group asked if there was a space I could do that. They thought space closed. Website is very confusing, so confusing that I just decided what to do. Had to apply and do meetings and such and is very confusing.

Thursday, June 2, in the evening. I'm not the main organizer. Guy named David, works with Avatu, going to find bugs. Founder at Google. Really hacking, so Noisebridge seemed appropriate. Maximum 30 - 40 people. I think OWASP usually buys pizza, don't know for sure. Not as involved anymore. Usually people who would like to be exposed to the space. People with skill sets that might be able to help. Good partnership. It dpeends on how others feel. Not destructive, from DEFCON, etc. *stories about DEFCON being devious souls*

Reference: https://owasp.org/

Dave: We'd love to have you here, just a coupel things:
- Let poeple in, you're responsible.
- Best to have a couple Noisebridgers with you

Monte will help them. Most likely to want to compete in team hacking, B side is the most likely

Monique: You can have a CTF, put one together

Monte: Free ticket would be better

Woz: Online announcement and meetup event. Bare essentials. Do something at Noisebridge, tell people what we're about.

Winnie: Put it in the meetup.

== Discussion Item 2 ==

Trash pickup -- do it on Thursdays

To clear out backlog after events we can request bulk pickup a few times a year. https://www.recology.com/recology-san-francisco/bulky-items/

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.)
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

-Firefox is frozen

meeting notes;

attendees;
Sahas (putting together 3d printer),
rafael ( past member, looking to iterate at antennae),
ryan (flipper zero),
Sophia ( haven't been at the meetings in a while ),
Monique ( looking to host at june),
Daniel ( iterating at projects at home, transitioning to the space. Image processing and machine learning background),
Olexei ( working on runtime design at stanford ),
Emily (working as laser curring; working on trainings),
Cal ( physics background, touring the space; used to labs like this. CU Boulder) ,
Romo ( woodshop and metal working )
Dane -- zine hacker
Dave -- electronics and code
Blue -- (harddrive stuff; electronics in general and microscope imaging developer
Loren-- (fixing a scooter)

general announcements: none

financial report(new treasurer is tyler): no updates at board of directors or officers. ["this entity exists to make the lawyers happy~"]..leaking money...minimal runway for a while...

Meeting Notes 2022 05 17

2022-06-08T04:11:51Z

Anon test:

{{meetings}}

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 678th Meeting of Noisebridge].

This is a test edit.

*Live notes
**https://pad.riseup.net/p/nbmeeting
*Virtual Meeting (jitsi mic/cam off by default)
**https://jitsi.noisebridge.io/hackitorium#config.startWithAudioMuted=true&config.startWithVideoMuted=true&userInfo.displayName=%22n00b%22
**Backup link: https://meet.jit.si/noisebridge

Date: 2022_05_17

Edit the meeting number above where it says the XXXth meeting of Noisebridge (by checking previous meetings)

ALSO EDIT PREVIOUS AND NEXT DATES IN THE WIKI LINKS BELOW

[[Meeting_Notes_2022_05_10|Previous Meeting]]

[[Meeting_Notes_2022_05_24|Next Meeting]]

Note-takers: Olexei (temporarily)

Moderators: Dave

* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST

TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Fundraising Update
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New philanthropists:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

= Introductions =
* Sahas - putting together 3d printer
* raphael - used to hang out at the old space, haven't been since. looking to make antennas
* ryan any/all - fucking with a flipper zero
* Sophia she/her -
* Elan (he/him/they) - ML and wiki stuff

= Excellence =
Sophia explained today

= Short announcements and events =
None today

* (elanhr) I want to restart #Spacebridge this summer and hopefully launch a weather balloon. Will put together a meetup for interested peeps early next month. Get in contact

* TJ - 5MoF is on Thursday!!! Get hyped!

== New members/philanthropists ==
What are they? Is anyone trying to become a philanthropist or Member? If not move on. No long discussions.

= Financial Report =
'''Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.'''

TJ: maybe there could be two treasurers or something??

themanmaran
4:11 PM
...I would like to meet with some people and (ideally) hand off the treasurer responsibility entirely. I know I'm behind on reimbursements, and I've been 100% clocked out from noisebridge lately.

There was a finance working group at one point, and almost all of them exited noisebridge as a result.
Tasks can't be too distributed, or else we run into security issues. Max two people on the bank account I'd say.
Also the more distributed, the more confusing it is ('who do I ask', 'who's gonna pay this bill,' etc.)

4:35
I think there needs to be a point person. Both for legal and organizational reasons.
And this person needs to understand that it's a multi year job.
4:35
If we have a bunch of "treasurer of the month" type people, it's gonna get really messy.

== Spending Needs ==
Gotta spend money on XYZ (i.e. Gate, wiring etc.). WHO CAN SIGN THE CHECK OR LEND THE CREDIT CARD!?!?! It doesn't matter if we agree to do something and it can’t be paid for.

== Fundraising Update ==
'''How's it all going'''

(elanhr) Who has access to the donations DB?
I fixed donation page to let ppl donate to specific projects but dont have access to the donations DB. If anyone knows who would have access - need access to add projects to prod page.

= Big C Consensus Items =
Last week mark put up a consensus item: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2022_05_10#Big_C_Consensus_Items

TJ: we want to have a mid-point for all the vaccination card stuff. The previous things were all 90-day. This one is permanent.

Monique: you have to fall back on the venue for rules and stuff.

Emily: that's a good point

Monique: we have to follow the facility's rules, not our own (for other things).

Dave: here we want to give people default anonymity.

Monique: how do you inform people?

Dave: you're supposed to ask them.

sophia: we used to care but don't anymore

Emily: a lot of people might have covid and less people with vaxx

dave: i'll try to make a sign today to enforce existing consensus

various discussion we couldn't catch

TJ: we're trying to just keep the old consensus going

Dave: perhaps this is just a slightly different emphasis

TJ: this is why we talk about consensus items

Dave: anything else on this discussion item?

Elan: The issue kept getting brought up that not asking for vax card to ask for anonymity, easy to cover the name when showing vax card.

Sophia: Don't like to go to places and pull out government id

Dave: Some of us don't like our name, and are morally opposed to id.

monique: what if they come several times, are you going to make them show itagain

tj: my reasoning is: if it ain't broke don't fix it. this whole thing was brought up because i followed the existing procedure and filtered out someone who was unvaccinated. in the situation where all the hullabaloo came from, it worked. Does t

Dave: I think a sign will help me remember

Loren: We arrived at a balance point. Is there anything different about now? Same language, extending timeline is fine. 90 days -> permanent. People want to re-visit this, don't know why people can oppose will now when they couldn't before

Dane: We need more visible signage, ask upon tour. Doing healthy practices

Farley: Ask about Ronald situation. Big C consensus or discussion item?

Dave: Only done consensus for 86, just de - Membering.

Dave: Apologies for not paying attention, will stand next to Jitsi. Have something new, say it now.

= Discussion =

== Monique wants to host an event ==

Someone in the group asked if there was a space I could do that. They thought space closed. Website is very confusing, so confusing that I just decided what to do. Had to apply and do meetings and such and is very confusing.

Thursday, June 2, in the evening. I'm not the main organizer. Guy named David, works with Avatu, going to find bugs. Founder at Google. Really hacking, so Noisebridge seemed appropriate. Maximum 30 - 40 people. I think OWASP usually buys pizza, don't know for sure. Not as involved anymore. Usually people who would like to be exposed to the space. People with skill sets that might be able to help. Good partnership. It dpeends on how others feel. Not destructive, from DEFCON, etc. *stories about DEFCON being devious souls*

Reference: https://owasp.org/

Dave: We'd love to have you here, just a coupel things:
- Let poeple in, you're responsible.
- Best to have a couple Noisebridgers with you

Monte will help them. Most likely to want to compete in team hacking, B side is the most likely

Monique: You can have a CTF, put one together

Monte: Free ticket would be better

Woz: Online announcement and meetup event. Bare essentials. Do something at Noisebridge, tell people what we're about.

Winnie: Put it in the meetup.

== Discussion Item 2 ==

Trash pickup -- do it on Thursdays

To clear out backlog after events we can request bulk pickup a few times a year. https://www.recology.com/recology-san-francisco/bulky-items/

= Do-ocratic Task Board =
Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from [https://github.com/noisebridge/buildout-capp Github], from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!

= End of Meeting =

==Note taker posts the notes==

* Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
* Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
* Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.)
* Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
* CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
* Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

==Fun things to do after==

* Do a 10 minute cleanup, bring dishes up stairs and wash them, clean the bathroom
* Have some beers on the patio
* Prepare the next weeks' meeting notes
* Lick the walls. Or just draw on them
* sing the [[Hackernationale]] (this almost never happens)

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

-Firefox is frozen

meeting notes;

attendees;
Sahas (putting together 3d printer),
rafael ( past member, looking to iterate at antennae),
ryan (flipper zero),
Sophia ( haven't been at the meetings in a while ),
Monique ( looking to host at june),
Daniel ( iterating at projects at home, transitioning to the space. Image processing and machine learning background),
Olexei ( working on runtime design at stanford ),
Emily (working as laser curring; working on trainings),
Cal ( physics background, touring the space; used to labs like this. CU Boulder) ,
Romo ( woodshop and metal working )
Dane -- zine hacker
Dave -- electronics and code
Blue -- (harddrive stuff; electronics in general and microscope imaging developer
Loren-- (fixing a scooter)

general announcements: none

financial report(new treasurer is tyler): no updates at board of directors or officers. ["this entity exists to make the lawyers happy~"]..leaking money...minimal runway for a while...