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&lt;div&gt;= Agenda =&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 216th Meeting of Noisebridge]&lt;br /&gt;
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Note-taker: Jehan, http://piratepad.net/Fh8nv2KgDL&lt;br /&gt;
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Moderator: Malaclyps&lt;br /&gt;
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== Introduction and Names ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Cynthia: keeps place going&lt;br /&gt;
* John: Hacking on Biomonitoring&lt;br /&gt;
* Michele: French?&lt;br /&gt;
* Robert: Linux, DBs&lt;br /&gt;
* Ava: Visiting&lt;br /&gt;
* Julian: Spectator&lt;br /&gt;
* Liz: Hangs out sometimes&lt;br /&gt;
* Miloh: Circuit hacking and replicating&lt;br /&gt;
* Jared: Machine Learning, Hadoop&lt;br /&gt;
* Will: 5mof&lt;br /&gt;
* Corey &amp;amp; Marnia: Robo-Gardens&lt;br /&gt;
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== Short Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Daniella- Great idea, provisional patents. Entering tech awards. In Santa Clara, third party recipiant = NB! &lt;br /&gt;
* Intro to Linux one night a month. Non techie. Will be posted.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hard drive enclosures, internet archive, new fund. Archive.org&lt;br /&gt;
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== New or Stale Events ==&lt;br /&gt;
* R started Ruby collaborative mondays 5 oclock&lt;br /&gt;
* Thursdays 5mof, looking for speakers. Talk about mother or interpretive dance.&lt;br /&gt;
* Maker Faire this weekend- Page on wiki to sign up and volunteer, talk to Chris Lincoln.&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Membership Binder]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Zephyr&lt;br /&gt;
* Blake Griffis 4&lt;br /&gt;
* Daniel Jabour 4&lt;br /&gt;
* Aspen 4&lt;br /&gt;
* Tobias 4&lt;br /&gt;
* Jim Sweet needs 2 sponsors&lt;br /&gt;
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== Financial Report ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Funds in bank:&lt;br /&gt;
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):&lt;br /&gt;
** There are $2101.33 earmarked NoiseTor funds&lt;br /&gt;
** Colo service has been paid through Jun 7, 2012&lt;br /&gt;
** There are enough funds to pay for an additional 2 months of colo&lt;br /&gt;
** This information was updated at Tue May 15 20:21:07 2012&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consensus items ==&lt;br /&gt;
You may wish to &#039;&#039;&#039;invite a knowledgeable volunteer to repeat &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on the consensus process]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Proposals from last week ===&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Add any items which pass or are blocked to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Proposals for next week ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Continue Cleaning service or not?&lt;br /&gt;
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Add 70 minute limit on meetings&lt;br /&gt;
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Select Time-Keeper = Miloh&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Additional: Cleaning Service- Have we gotten a good deal? Should we continue?&lt;br /&gt;
* DIY bio: 10 minutes&lt;br /&gt;
** 2 refrigerators&lt;br /&gt;
** Full of papayas, now empty, group tried to throw it out.&lt;br /&gt;
** Does anyone want fridge?&lt;br /&gt;
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* 5MoF Pitch&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; (edited to &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; after meeting to avoid linking an individual&#039;s initials to an embarrassing series of events -Jehan)  discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** Gavin Says:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Threatened to kill other members&lt;br /&gt;
*** Tony felt uncomfortable because of other members- i.e. R&lt;br /&gt;
*** Support or help R?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Traditional option is mediation     &lt;br /&gt;
*** R has made some threats to someone at Noisebridge -- safety could be a concern to some people&lt;br /&gt;
*** Mediation hasn&#039;t worked for at least one person.&lt;br /&gt;
** R Says:&lt;br /&gt;
*** Truly appreciates community&lt;br /&gt;
*** Takes responsibility for what has happened&lt;br /&gt;
*** Admits was in wrong&lt;br /&gt;
*** Lack of communication with parties involved&lt;br /&gt;
*** Cycle of wronggness&lt;br /&gt;
**** Drunk&lt;br /&gt;
**** Drunk during meeting as well&lt;br /&gt;
**** Not as jovial as usual&lt;br /&gt;
** Tony came up to R in agressive way&lt;br /&gt;
*** Would not let him speak&lt;br /&gt;
*** told R to suck cock&lt;br /&gt;
*** R suggested inverse cock sucking relationship&lt;br /&gt;
*** Many cocksucking suggestions were made, according to Kayla&lt;br /&gt;
*** Kayla gives a very vivid description of the cock-sucking language used&lt;br /&gt;
*** Cocksucking story may be wrong according to R&lt;br /&gt;
*** No Cocksucking after all&lt;br /&gt;
*** Kayla just wants to say that R does many positive things around the space as well&lt;br /&gt;
** Miloh is pissed about R 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hacking and not finishing&lt;br /&gt;
*** Miloh says R should leave for month&lt;br /&gt;
*** R doesn&#039;t finish his projects, and only makes a mess.&lt;br /&gt;
** Daniella says give him a second chance.&lt;br /&gt;
** Kayla says 2 week hiatus&lt;br /&gt;
** Will has never had problem with him personally- but when he has heard problems they involve alchohol (mild claps)&lt;br /&gt;
*** No drinking in space for some people&lt;br /&gt;
*** Some people do not believe that the details should be in notes.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Kayla recieved text claiming to be proxying for Tony&lt;br /&gt;
** Zephyr has had a few problems with R and feels that the solutions are appropriate&lt;br /&gt;
** Gavin says what about an email list? Mediators as admins.&lt;br /&gt;
** Jim says that he doesnt like the idea that R leaves. Likes no drinking.&lt;br /&gt;
** Liz says we should support R if you haven&#039;t had problems with him&lt;br /&gt;
** Ramone says taking break from place is not solution, mediation is good solution type thing, not super opposed to break. But it&#039;s not direct solution.&lt;br /&gt;
** Kayla says brief hiatus from NB can be good. &lt;br /&gt;
** R says it&#039;s a good idea. If it makes people feel comfortable. He is willing to take a break from the space for a month. &lt;br /&gt;
** Miloh says that R can&#039;t argue with charges. It is sexual harassment (of tony)&lt;br /&gt;
** R says that Kayla&#039;s credibility on alleged cocksucking comments should be disputed. &lt;br /&gt;
** R says: He is not agaisnt anyone for any sexual orientation. Has numerous gay friends and roomates. (loud arguing) (5 minute break)&lt;br /&gt;
** (meeting recommences)&lt;br /&gt;
** More to it than is on the board: Complicated proposal: &lt;br /&gt;
*** Bad for NB as whole to tell ppl to leave and send them off&lt;br /&gt;
*** Spending some time away can be good in general and good for R in particular&lt;br /&gt;
*** People feel that it is bad to explain things to R because there can be confrontation&lt;br /&gt;
*** People think that R should spend time away but that they feel that he should not be asked to spend time away&lt;br /&gt;
*** People feel that it is good to ask him to not be drunk (and rowdy) in NB&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does the space need to have a no shitfacedness policy?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Claudia agrees&lt;br /&gt;
*** A few people disagree&lt;br /&gt;
*** Group feeling is that drunkeness is an essential NB ingredient&lt;br /&gt;
*** Alot of people love R, and the events, and the hour long meeting is a tragedy&lt;br /&gt;
*** R agrees with the above.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Miloh advocates for 10 week break&lt;br /&gt;
*** MC Hawking says 20 weeks&lt;br /&gt;
*** No real consensus &lt;br /&gt;
*** R says that he would be comfortable taking month off&lt;br /&gt;
**** We should work out way to co-exist&lt;br /&gt;
**** Space may not be big enough for both R and Gavin&lt;br /&gt;
**** R intends to take legal action about above slander as he alleges&lt;br /&gt;
*** Is 4 weeks too long?&lt;br /&gt;
*** 3 weeks as a medium between 2 weeks (hippie mob who is kindly) 4 weeks (r in his self-flagellation)  &lt;br /&gt;
** Conclusions:&lt;br /&gt;
*** 3 week break and no drinking for R&lt;br /&gt;
*** Community can drink R&#039;s beers.&lt;br /&gt;
*** R can drink water, and eat ice cream&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hippie group therapy and avengers movie counseling&lt;br /&gt;
**** R insists no problem with &amp;quot;homophilia&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**** Whoa, R may be drinking in the corner. But agrees not to drink.&lt;br /&gt;
**** R wants Noisebridge Postcard, sounds like a good idea&lt;br /&gt;
**** but wait, this isn&#039;t democratic process.&lt;br /&gt;
**** We&#039;re not a democracy dammit.&lt;br /&gt;
**** This shoudl be voluntary for R (it is)&lt;br /&gt;
**** We&#039;re not the fucking police (goddamn right) &lt;br /&gt;
**** At the age of 7 R was diagnosed with Posttraumatic stress. This has haunted &lt;br /&gt;
**** Noisebridge demands new Icecream diet for R&lt;br /&gt;
**** let&#039;s mediate bro&lt;br /&gt;
**** Our fearless temporary spokesperson demands 3 weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bio hacking.   papayas.  on thursday people tried to throw out the broken fridge. something something rotten papayas.  What?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Miloh says it&#039;s just that we had 2 fridges. it is not a bio hacking thing at all. at least sell the fridge to benefit the space. &lt;br /&gt;
*** jesse - suggestion that something about biohacking.... ?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Oh. okay jesse is actually saying, Does Noisebridge NOT have a problem with diy bio hacking?  &lt;br /&gt;
*** This doesn&#039;t make sense, both fridges wer&lt;br /&gt;
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