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Excellence

2013-11-20T19:23:38Z

75.16.27.92: But 208.57.178.17, current IP addr I'm using is NOT getting blocked (yet!) Phrase beginning with "anyone can edit..." re-inserted until Tom blocks more IP addrs

This page exists to provide an insight into our shifting morass of Community standards. These principles and standards are not necessarily the [[Consensus]] of Noisebridge, and anyone can edit this page at any time. Hopefully, the community in its entirety can ensure that this page continues to reflect what we think.

The only hard and fast rule of Noisebridge is to [[Vision#Excellence | '''be excellent to each other''']], further codified in our consensed [[The Anti-Harassment Policy | anti-harassment policy]]. Everything else is ''dicta''.

= Purpose =

* Noisebridge is a place for hacking, hackers, and learning to hack.
* Noisebridge operates by do-ocracy and consensus.
* The [[Noisebridge Vision]] describes what we are for, and what we are about.

= Disagreement =

* If you disagree with your fellow hacker it would be excellent to [[Conflict Resolution | work out your differences]] with them.
* If you cannot work out your differences one-on-one, it would be excellent to work out your differences through [[mediation]].

= Entrance and Membership =

* You do not need to be a Regular Member to hack at Noisebridge or to participate in the community here.
* It is [[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to take responsibility for the actions of anyone you invite or let into Noisebridge.
* It is [[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to use the resources of Noisebridge to hack and to actively participate in the community.
* You are actively encouraged to consider becoming a Regular or Associate Member of Noisebridge as described in the [[Membership | Regular Membership]] and [[Associate Membership]] pages.

= Conflict and Emergency =
* [[Conflict_Resolution]]
*We want Noisebridge to be a welcoming experience for everyone who visits.
*We don't have absolute hard-and-fast rules. We do have [[Guidelines|a page on the Wiki]] that lists some guidelines that have proved useful predictors of whether you will annoy people.
*Please respect your fellow hackers by not disparaging them based on unfair grounds such as race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, and income or lack thereof; and by not making uninvited sexual comments toward others.
*If someone asks you to leave them alone or to otherwise stop a behavior that is directed toward them, please do so. Continued unwanted behavior directed toward another person is [[Harassment]].
*People who harass others or cause multiple complaints of disrespectful behavior may be asked to leave.
** It is considered [[Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to [[Do-ocracy | do-ocratically]] remove someone who is disrupting Noisebridge, or is clearly dangerous to others.
*** If someone asks you to leave, it is generally better to leave and return at the next Tuesday [[Meeting|meeting]] than it is to refuse to leave and possibly escalate the conflict into a [[Drama | hurtful exchange]].
*** If you remove someone like this, you should email [[mailinglist|noisebridge-discuss]], and raise it at the [[Meetings | next meeting]].
***If someone is removed from the space like this, they shouldn't return to the space except to work out the issue that resulted in their removal, either through [[mediation]], or by attending the [[Meetings | weekly meeting]].

If you wish to report harassment or other inappropriate behavior anonymously or privately, you can send a message to secretary@noisebridge.net

= Do Not Want =

* [[Sleeping | Noisebridge is your hackerspace, not your home]]. Living here is definitely [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Roommate_Anti-Pattern an anti-pattern], so don't even try to do this!! If money is a problem, have a look at our page of [[Starving hackers | starving hacker resources]] for ways to get around and crash if you're short on cash.
* [[Harassment | Don't be creepy]]. Harassment is '''totally''' unacceptable, at any time.
* With the exception of Noisebridge's [[The_Anti-Harassment_Policy | Anti-Harassment Policy]] as it directly applies to person-to-person bullying within the space itself, no clear [[Consensus_Process | consensus]] has yet been reached on [http://www.overcomebullying.org/cyberbullying.html adult cyberbullying] on the [[IRC | NB IRC chat]] and [[Mailinglist | NB discussion mailing list]]. Since the correlation is arguably strong between cyberbullying and [[ Drama | dramatic events]] that have unfortunately occurred in the space during the recent past, it's clearly best to avoid both person-to-person '''and''' cyber bullying.
* Conflict: Please see our [[Conflict_Resolution | Helpful hints on human interaction]].

= Why Publish These Standards =

It is important for regular users of the space to be aware of the purpose of Noisebridge. If people want to use the space and have no interest in or respect for hacking, this does not mean they are automatically unwelcome at Noisebridge, but they should thoroughly understand that their possibly '''UN'''[[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence|excellent]] use of the space is tangential to its key purpose. Consideration of such users' ability to remain at the space will be given over to [[Consensus_Process | consensus discussion]] and is ultimately at the discretion of the membership and other stakeholders.

Excellence

2013-11-20T01:26:29Z

75.16.27.92: I get the usage of Codified, but Is the anti-harassment policy really *fully* consensed yet??

This page exists to to provide an insight into our shifting morass of community standards. These principles and standards are not necessarily the [[Consensus]] of Noisebridge. Hopefully, the community in its entirety can ensure that this page continues to reflect what we think.

The only hard and fast rule of Noisebridge is to [[Vision#Excellence | '''be excellent to each other''']], further codified in our consensed [[The Anti-Harassment Policy | anti-harassment policy]]. Everything else is ''dicta''.

= Purpose =

* Noisebridge is a place for hacking, hackers, and learning to hack.
* Noisebridge operates by do-ocracy and consensus.
* The [[Noisebridge Vision]] describes what we are for, and what we are about.

= Disagreement =

* If you disagree with your fellow hacker it would be excellent to [[Conflict Resolution | work out your differences]] with them.
* If you cannot work out your differences one-on-one, it would be excellent to work out your differences through [[mediation]].

= Entrance and Membership =

* You do not need to be a Regular Member to hack at Noisebridge or to participate in the community here.
* It is [[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to take responsibility for the actions of anyone you invite or let into Noisebridge.
* It is [[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to use the resources of Noisebridge to hack and to actively participate in the community.
* You are actively encouraged to consider becoming a Regular or Associate Member of Noisebridge as described in the [[Membership | Regular Membership]] and [[Associate Membership]] pages.

= Conflict and Emergency =
* [[Conflict_Resolution]]
*We want Noisebridge to be a welcoming experience for everyone who visits.
*We don't have absolute hard-and-fast rules. We do have [[Guidelines|a page on the Wiki]] that lists some guidelines that have proved useful predictors of whether you will annoy people.
*Please respect your fellow hackers by not disparaging them based on unfair grounds such as race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, and income or lack thereof; and by not making uninvited sexual comments toward others.
*If someone asks you to leave them alone or to otherwise stop a behavior that is directed toward them, please do so. Continued unwanted behavior directed toward another person is [[Harassment]].
*People who harass others or cause multiple complaints of disrespectful behavior may be asked to leave.
** It is considered [[Vision#Excellence | excellent]] to [[Do-ocracy | do-ocratically]] remove someone who is disrupting Noisebridge, or is clearly dangerous to others.
*** If someone asks you to leave, it is generally better to leave and return at the next Tuesday [[Meeting|meeting]] than it is to refuse to leave and possibly escalate the conflict into a [[Drama | hurtful exchange]].
*** If you remove someone like this, you should email [[mailinglist|noisebridge-discuss]], and raise it at the [[Meetings | next meeting]].
***If someone is removed from the space like this, they shouldn't return to the space except to work out the issue that resulted in their removal, either through [[mediation]], or by attending the [[Meetings | weekly meeting]].

If you wish to report harassment or other inappropriate behavior anonymously or privately, you can send a message to secretary@noisebridge.net

= Do Not Want =

* [[Sleeping | Noisebridge is your hackerspace, not your home]]. Living here is definitely [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Roommate_Anti-Pattern an anti-pattern], so don't even try to do this!! If money is a problem, have a look at our page of [[Starving hackers | starving hacker resources]] for ways to get around and crash if you're short on cash.
* [[Harassment | Don't be creepy]]. Harassment is '''totally''' unacceptable, at any time.
* With the exception of Noisebridge's [[The_Anti-Harassment_Policy | Anti-Harassment Policy]] as it directly applies to person-to-person bullying within the space itself, no clear [[Consensus_Process | consensus]] has yet been reached on [http://www.overcomebullying.org/cyberbullying.html adult cyberbullying] on the [[IRC | NB IRC chat]] and [[Mailinglist | NB discussion mailing list]]. Since the correlation is arguably strong between cyberbullying and [[ Drama | dramatic events]] that have unfortunately occurred in the space during the recent past, it's clearly best to avoid both person-to-person '''and''' cyber bullying.
* Conflict: Please see our [[Conflict_Resolution | Helpful hints on human interaction]].

= Why Publish These Standards =

It is important for regular users of the space to be aware of the purpose of Noisebridge. If people want to use the space and have no interest in or respect for hacking, this does not mean they are automatically unwelcome at Noisebridge, but they should thoroughly understand that their possibly '''UN'''[[Noisebridge_Vision#Excellence|excellent]] use of the space is tangential to its key purpose. Consideration of such users' ability to remain at the space will be given over to [[Consensus_Process | consensus discussion]] and is ultimately at the discretion of the membership and other stakeholders.

Talk:Noisebridge

2013-11-20T01:20:21Z

75.16.27.92: nitpicky formatting re: IP 71.135.45.11x

10/27 I left my laptop charger and cord on the main table. If you find it please give it to Rayce, Vaughn or the guy on the 3D printer. I will come by tomorrow. Thanks!! -Bud

---

Li-Fi
http://qz.com/137221/a-plan-to-turn-every-lightbulb-into-an-ultra-fast-alternative-to-wi-fi/#!

== Watch the Pirate Bay documentary premiere! ==

Hi Noisebridge friends,

I just got the chance to check out your beautiful space and wanted to share my film about the Pirate Bay with your community.

We are releasing the film for free online from the premiere on Jan 8th.

Please check out the trailer here

http://watch.tpbafk.tv/

Please share!

Simon / Director TPB AFK

== 71.135.35.112 Undos ==

Sorry about the heavy undo action here https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Noisebridge&diff=next&oldid=35239. Here's a rationale for my edits:

Noisebridge ''has now been designated as'''...
 Isn't that just a long winded version of "is"?

new visitors are ''just as welcome as always''
 If they are new, then they wouldn't have any reason to wonder why this statement might exist.
 
 OTOH, [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]], the most recent language using the terms "always welcome" is clearly more inviting and less cold to New Visitors. Although you yourself might disagree with this emphasis on attracting New Visitors to the Space, you might still want to more carefully review some of the Regular Members' proposals of this "more welcoming" matter on recent Discussion-list postings as well as in the last Meeting's minutes.

''consider reading up on''
 No, it's important they read up on it.
 
 OTOH, [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]], the most recent language using the term "review"' succinctly hints at less in-depth "reading" of the required access methods; a definite +plus+ to many more of we excellent time-constrained folks.
 Why indeed is it so "important" that New Visitors undergo the ordeal of '''being required''' to slog through something that even remotely approaches an undergraduate essay to find out what they really need to know??!!

but it's best to visit when ''Full or Associate Members'' are present
 A new visitor doesn't care about the difference between full and associate members or that there is a difference. And saying it your way implies there is another, unstated type of member, which there isn't.

--[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 08:39, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

: Dearest 71.135.35.112, those are excellent edits, thanks! I'm glad we got to bounce them back and forth a bit.
: PS. A popular way to show discussion threading in Mediawiki is to add a ":" to the beginning of each line. That indents your text. Then the next response gets a "::", etc... It's not perfect, but that's what Wikipedia uses. Keep rocking. --[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 19:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 
: [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]], It does seem from the [[Community_Standards | Community Standards ]] history tab, that [[User:Flamsmark]] just went ahead and unilaterally shut out 71.135.45.11x for her/his/their editing there. So while it is certainly [[Vision#Excellence | Excellent ]] to be able to actively participate in the Wiki editing process just like you and 71.135.45.11x here, there are doubts whether [[User:Flamsmark]] himself will likewise participate par excellence, this based upon today's [[Getting_In | Getting In]] Revision history tab in which you last posed a reasonable question to him.
 Any further thoughts or rapprochements on this last part?

== Captcha fix request ==
All these moments will be lost in time... "like tears in rain" - w/o the direct article. tyvm :-) [[Special:Contributions/66.31.46.165|66.31.46.165]] 00:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

== Required Slogging ==

(71.135.45.119, I moved your comment to a new section so it's more easily viewable. My response follows)

71.135.45.119 writes: Why indeed is it so "important" that New Visitors undergo the ordeal of being required to slog through something that even remotely approaches an undergraduate essay to find out what they really need to know??!!

:That is an excellent question! The gist is that it's really good for visitors to know that they will have a better experience (not get kicked out etc..) if they have a sponsor when they are in the space. This is because of the new "members and their guests only policy". So I'm guessing that the instructions to new visitors should try to strike a balance between "Visitors Welcome!" and "Here's exactly how to be an approved guest!" and "Look how easy it is to be an approved guest!" or something like that. And that is what is being worked on now... and you are participating in that very process! --[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 19:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Noisebridge

2013-11-20T01:13:16Z

75.16.27.92: Re: 71.135.35.11x edits

10/27 I left my laptop charger and cord on the main table. If you find it please give it to Rayce, Vaughn or the guy on the 3D printer. I will come by tomorrow. Thanks!! -Bud

---

Li-Fi
http://qz.com/137221/a-plan-to-turn-every-lightbulb-into-an-ultra-fast-alternative-to-wi-fi/#!

== Watch the Pirate Bay documentary premiere! ==

Hi Noisebridge friends,

I just got the chance to check out your beautiful space and wanted to share my film about the Pirate Bay with your community.

We are releasing the film for free online from the premiere on Jan 8th.

Please check out the trailer here

http://watch.tpbafk.tv/

Please share!

Simon / Director TPB AFK

== 71.135.35.112 Undos ==

Sorry about the heavy undo action here https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Noisebridge&diff=next&oldid=35239. Here's a rationale for my edits:

Noisebridge ''has now been designated as'''...
 Isn't that just a long winded version of "is"?

new visitors are ''just as welcome as always''
 If they are new, then they wouldn't have any reason to wonder why this statement might exist.
 
 OTOH, [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]], the most recent language using the terms "always welcome" is clearly more inviting and less cold to New Visitors. Although you yourself might disagree with this emphasis on attracting New Visitors to the Space, you might still want to more carefully review some of the Regular Members' proposals of this "more welcoming" matter on recent Discussion-list postings as well as in the last Meeting's minutes.

''consider reading up on''
 No, it's important they read up on it.
 
 OTOH, [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]], the most recent language using the term "review"' succinctly hints at less in-depth "reading" of the required access methods; a definite +plus+ to many more of we excellent time-constrained folks.
 Why indeed is it so "important" that New Visitors undergo the ordeal of '''being required''' to slog through something that even remotely approaches an undergraduate essay to find out what they really need to know??!!

but it's best to visit when ''Full or Associate Members'' are present
 A new visitor doesn't care about the difference between full and associate members or that there is a difference. And saying it your way implies there is another, unstated type of member, which there isn't.

--[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 08:39, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

: Dearest 71.135.35.112, those are excellent edits, thanks! I'm glad we got to bounce them back and forth a bit.
: PS. A popular way to show discussion threading in Mediawiki is to add a ":" to the beginning of each line. That indents your text. Then the next response gets a "::", etc... It's not perfect, but that's what Wikipedia uses. Keep rocking. --[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 19:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

:: [[User:Gadlen|gadlen]],
 It seems from the [[Community_Standards | Community Standards ]] history tab,
that [[User:Flamsmark]] just went ahead and unilaterally decided to shut out
the 71.135.45.11x person for her/his editing there.
 So while it is certainly [[Vision#Excellence | Excellent ]] to be able to actively
participate in the Wiki editing process just like you and that 71.135.45.11x
person here, there are doubts whether [[User:Flamsmark]] himself will
likewise participate par excellence, this based upon today's [[Getting_In | Getting In]] Revision history tab in which you last posed a reasonable question to him.
 
 Any further thoughts or rapprochements on this?

== Captcha fix request ==
All these moments will be lost in time... "like tears in rain" - w/o the direct article. tyvm :-) [[Special:Contributions/66.31.46.165|66.31.46.165]] 00:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

== Required Slogging ==

(71.135.45.119, I moved your comment to a new section so it's more easily viewable. My response follows)

71.135.45.119 writes: Why indeed is it so "important" that New Visitors undergo the ordeal of being required to slog through something that even remotely approaches an undergraduate essay to find out what they really need to know??!!

:That is an excellent question! The gist is that it's really good for visitors to know that they will have a better experience (not get kicked out etc..) if they have a sponsor when they are in the space. This is because of the new "members and their guests only policy". So I'm guessing that the instructions to new visitors should try to strike a balance between "Visitors Welcome!" and "Here's exactly how to be an approved guest!" and "Look how easy it is to be an approved guest!" or something like that. And that is what is being worked on now... and you are participating in that very process! --[[User:Gadlen|gadlen]] ([[User talk:Gadlen|talk]]) 19:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)