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Meeting Notes 2012 02 28

2012-03-05T17:51:36Z

50.0.92.186: /* Discussion Items */ relationship hacking -> relationships

= Instructions =

* Pick a moderator and a note-taker.
* Optionally: pick a membership-binder-wrangler; otherwise the moderator can take care of it.

== Note-taker ==
* Open a text editor to take notes on the major points of the meeting, using this page at the template.
* Project the draft meeting notes and agenda in real time throughout the meeting.
* Edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
* Edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.
* Post the meeting notes to this page, and email out a summary with a link.
* Tell treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members.

== Moderator==
* Understand the structure of Noisebridge [[consensus|decision-making]]
* Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak.
* Speak only minimally yourself.
* Keep the meeting moving, and avoid getting bogged down.
* Identify discussion items, arrange times limits for talking about each item.
* Identify and summarize consensus, suggest things that need to be done.
* '''Get the [[membership binder]] and ensure that it is returned safely.'''

== Participants ==
* Say your name before you talk.
* Remain on-topic, and speak as concisely as possible.
* Assist the note-taker with any links or corrections that are needed.
* Remain respectful of other participants, their time, and the consensus and moderation process.

= Agenda =

[https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The 206th Meeting of Noisebridge]

Note-taker: Casey

Moderator: HI MY NAME IS <blink>TOM</blink>

== Introduction and Names ==

* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to explain''' [[Noisebridge_Vision|what Noisebridge is about]]: "Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]: We agree and so should you! Only paid-up members can block consensus.
* Introduce any new or unusual moderation techniques that you may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
** What's your name,
** are you a member,
** what do you do, and
** if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?

* Kelly
* Alan R.
* Snail
* SuperQ does hacking
* Corey plays with legos. Legos are great. You have a problem?
* Alyah
* Duncan
* Dana brews things
* Christopher is in spacebridge
* Daniel pwns rails
* Alisa
* Jumana
* MCT
* Michelle
* Casey
* Mike is a technowanderer
* ???
* Andrew
* Lauren is a journalize
* Tom
* Carl
* Cynthia
* Aiden
* Branden
* Tom

== Short Announcements ==

* Those who would like to talk about the idea of a mural should hit up Corey after the meeting
* Andy is bringing hard-copies of information about NoiseTor should the FBI try to become members again.

== New or Stale Events ==

* [[PsychedelicSF/2012-03-04|Ayahuasca Symposium: Lecture & Book Release]]
* Vegan hacker is back! Every last Tuesday! IT SMELLED DELICIOUS

== [[Membership Binder]] ==
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' the [[membership]] application process.
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Write a check on every open application.
* Anyone eligible to join this week should
** introduce themselves,
** answer any questions members may have for them, then
** leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
* The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
* Remember to applaud new members when they return.

* Daniel Jabbour loves Noisebridge
* Casey

== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: $ 18659.13. Less noisetor, this is about $15000, which is our prudent reserve limit.
* This is kind of low. It takes $160/day to keep Noisebridge open. We rely on your donations
* Become an associate member!
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
** There are $3323.36 earmarked NoiseTor funds
** Colo service has been paid through Mar 7, 2012
** There are enough funds to pay for an additional 4 months of colo

== Consensus items ==

=== Proposals from last week ===

* None

=== Proposals for next week ===

* None!

== Discussion Items ==

If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed until after the meeting ends.

During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exact what each person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the discuss page for this meeting.

* Hosting [http://www.kinkforall.org KinkForAll] (un-conference about relationships) at Noisebridge on Sat. June 30th. (Alisa)
** Approximately 20 minute talks centered on sexuality, sexual health, and human interactions
** Intentionally no demos so as to be all ages
** Boring logistics: intends to use both classrooms, 9am-5pm, with about 40 attendees
** An attempt to bridge the hacker and alt-sex communities, thus the desire to host at NB.
** MCT is sponsoring
**[later] The date has since been changed to June 16th to avoid conflicts with SF Pride related events.

* Kitchen
** Can we disallow storing all personal food from the kitchen?
*** Pros:
**** Discourage habitation
**** Discourage GROSS NASTY ROTTEN FOOD (empirically, this happens)
*** Cons:
**** People do legitimately store personal food in the kitchen

** Discussion:
*** ????: Consensus or not, this should be formally decided
*** Tom
**** People have been keeping food here since the space first existed.
**** Documenting fridge policy is important for people who depend on Noisebridge for their ability to avoid hunger
**** Once people start taking food, one won't be able to feel safe about preparing food for yourself and others
*** Cynthia
**** Can we expand the scope to all food storage places? Murmurs: yes
*** Leif
**** This is a place where we shouldn't have explicit rules since rules lead to arbitrary enforcement, and arbitrary enforcement leads to confusion
**** We don't have enough space at NB for permanent personal food storage for everyone
**** This has worked informally well for a while
**** People should expect the loss of their food if they keep it at noisebridge
*** SuperQ
**** The consensus process of noisebridge is for the membership
**** Leif++. Everything at noisebridge outside of the member shelves is up for hacking, but don't be a dick.
**** Don't take food that's obviously for cooking for the day
*** Kelly
**** I'd like to mention that I'm really ticked off by the idea the people feel entitled to keep food here more than a few hours before a specific cooking project
**** Just because we don't choose to consense on a specific standard of behavior on the space doesn't mean we don't have an expected standard of excellence
**** If you are keeping food in the fridge for a project and it is eaten, that is un excellent and deserving of mediation
**** It is not excellent to keep personal supplies at noisebridge
**** Tom: Do you think it's okay to take
*** Question: What is food in the fridge? Answer: everything!
*** Rayc:
**** When I started coming to NB, the fridge was full of declicious tastebridge Kombucha
**** It sucks that we don't have that
**** I think the fair game policy is correct, especially given the large amount of grocery stores
*** Jumana
**** Maybe it would be good to have people write their name and date
**** Communication is good!
**** Kelly: If you have labelled something for a specific purpose, you are excellence
*** Duncan:
**** I agree with Leif & Kelly: Label and don't be a dick. I've kept labelled "No Shr Pls" eggs & milk here to hack chocolate chip cookies.
**** Discovering no eggs at 10pm after buying a dozen @noon is frustrating. The kitchen is here for hacking food & sharing results, NOT to feed the world.
**** Not respecting "no share/pls ask first" & hogging limited is most unexcellent. Some areas, like the counter, are community.
**** Food is expensive for many, scarce for all when stores are closed. This idea of "open sourcing" to everybody the perishable
**** inputs for kitchen hacking feels like a poorly thought-through social engineering to an unstated bigger issue.
**** Do we REALLY want NB to become known as that "place in the Mission to get free food to cook and eat"?
**** Food is a basic necessity and for many at all incomes, a very personal emotional thing. What's the REAL issue here?
**** Bags on the day-shelf are left unhacked, why should marked food be different?
*** Tom: I don't think NB is a place for medium-term food storage
*** Snail
**** We can't guarantee safety of the day-shelves; we don't like people keeping their goods there for extended periods of time.
*** Kelly: While it is possible to use NB excellently for your day to day necessities, NB is not for support
*** Tom
**** Food in the fridge for an hour has been yoinked
**** That is unexcellent, and has lead to conflict
*** Kelly:
**** There has never been a policy on the fridge one way or the other
**** The signs previously existing were do-ocratic and can be changed
*** There are murmurs that the purviews of Excellence can keep this under control
*** Q: What happens when Tastebridge wants to make more Kombucha
**** A: Kombucha is awesome
*** Kelly:
**** We may have at one time consensed on the idea that everything at NB is up for hacking except for the membership shelves.
**** Does anyone remember?
**** MCT: Agreed, and it is the informal consensus of NB that that is the case

** Kitchen electrical use
*** SuperQ wants to un-open the kitchen.
*** In order to do some experiments, the electrical hookup to the kitchen will be disabled
*** This is mostly the Stove, Oven, and Dishwasher, but NOT the fridges and hot water
*** We have no direct ability to measure the kitchen's energy uses
*** We can compare the no-kitchen week with the previous week(s) to find out
*** Interested people should check the Electricity Wiki
*** Kelly: Poke tastebridge@
*** SuperQ: I will conclude this before tastebridge next meets

== End of Meeting ==
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now, check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.
* Return the [[membership binder]] to it's rightful location.
* Clean and tidy the meeting notes, then save them to the wiki.
* Send a summary of the meeting notes to the discussion list.
* Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker or robot.
* Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Trip to Shooting Range

2012-03-04T21:12:35Z

50.0.92.186: /* Interested Parties */

'''There is some interest in a field trip to a shooting range to shoot guns in a Safe and Orderly manner. If you're interested, list your name below, along with any time restrictions and whether you are able to drive a carpool. The nearest range to 83C is, to the best of my knowledge, Jackson Arms in SSF.

No previous knowledge or experience is required. If you always wanted to try shooting a gun, this is a good opportunity for that.

==Bay Area Ranges==
Jackson Arms is an indoor 25 yard range, about a 15 minute drive from 83c. They require that an experienced shooter be at each lane, but an experienced shooter can share their lane with two or three beginners, provided that the experienced shooter passes a safe handling test and signs a form taking responsibility for the actions of the beginners they're supervising. I've gone there with large groups before and they've been accommodating and friendly. They have fun stuff to rent, and I think it's a great place to learn.

My favorite range in the bay area is the Chabot Gun Club range in Chabot national rec area in the east bay. It's a gorgeous outdoor range in parkland, but a bit of a drive, and only open when weather permits. They don't have rentals, so we'd need to bring our own supplies. The longer ranges make rifle shooting a lot more interesting than it is at Jackson. The longer drive, occasional fogged-out days, and lack of rentals makes Jackson the easier option however.

There are a few other ranges in the Bay Area as well, but I think these two are the ones worth considering.
[[User:noahbalmer|Noah]]

== Date & Time ==

Business Hours:
Open 7 days a week
Closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas Day

Monday - Friday: 11:00am - 9:00pm
Saturday: 10:00am - 9:00pm
Sunday: 10:00am - 7:00pm
Hours are subject to change without notice.

== Interested Parties ==
[[User:EmbeddedLinuxGuy]] would strongly prefer an outdoor range such as Pacific Rod & Gun Club vs. indoor lanes like Jackson Arms. I would be willing to drive up to two hours into the sticks to make this happen.

[[User:tooluser]] yes please. Plus one more, my wife. Can drive.

ToniCarra - Yeehaw lets go shoot some guns, I have a car, anytime!

[[User:rachel|Rachel]] (have access to shared cars so can drive one carful)

[[User:Mlp|Meredith]] (I own a handgun and can teach fundamentals)

Daniela - would prefer to not drive
[[Category:Events]]

Cristina - I am free during the week after 5:30; I do not drive nor have a gun but I am more than happy to use one. I call shotgun!

[[User:skyex|skye]] (i have shot previously but only with a rented handgun. more experience would be fantastic.)

[[User:Jtfoote|Jtfoote]] Been meaning to do this for YEARS!

[[User:Arcanology|Al]] - Can I bring my Taurus 9mm?

[[User:AlexPerez|Al]] - I will bring my Soviet-era [http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM44S.htm M44] unless otherwise directed :)

[[User:jstockford|jim]] - jackson arms does not require previous training. they have a policy not to rent guns to people who come in alone without a gun. solos with a gun or parties of two or more are okay. there's a reason. i have a car that can seat four (including me).

quinn - i'm interested, and have shot at jackson arm a bit as well, but i don't have my own gun. i have trained a n00b there.

[[User:Michiexile|Mikael]] - Interested, but never did anything ever. No car, no guns, no experience.

[[User:savaki|Matt]] - Uh huh uh huh uh huh. Count me in.

[[User:Jof|jof]] - Have only done prone target shooting with .22 rifles.

[[User:Kripto|Mark]] - I don't own any firearms, but I've shot many calibers of handguns. (At Jackson Arms) No Car, will need a ride.

Jeffey Malone - I've an interest and a car that seats 4 passengers.

[[User:Rigel|Rigel]] interest, have no car, have no gun, but have shot them a fair bit as a lad so im not a n00b. fridays and saturdays are bad for me, but sunday or during other times of the week are good for me.

[[User:noahbalmer|Noah]] - I own a rifle and a pistol, and can teach

[[User:Christie|Christie]] - Trying out a shotgun recently, I was reminded how much practice I could use. I've tried a variety of different handguns as well. I have the van of legend that allows for an unspecified number of people rolling around in the back.

[[User:AlSweigart|Al Sweigart]] - I'm interested.

David Stainton - I'm interested and I have two rifles.

Tracy Jacobs- count me in, I drive too much, don't shoot nearly enough, have truck seats only 2

[[User:Bifrost|EvilBifrost]] - I own a few paperweights.

[[User:Dichro|Mikolaj]] - I've been to Jackson Arms twice with friends, done the safety course each time, but haven't wound up shooting all that much either time.

Sai - Interested; only experience is a boy scout range once, several years ago.

Jesse Welz - I have lots of experience to offer and a big fun WII Russian gun to shoot.

Metatron/Mark - I'm in the area from Feb 02 to 09 coming in from the UK (basically if you want to shoot here you need to be rich or a criminal) I am planning on visiting the space and would love to go for a shoot. I've used shotguns and air riffles but that's it.

[[User:Helyx|Helyx]] I'm definitely in on this!! I haven't shot in awhile, and have no equipment, but i have a car! There is also an outdoor range in Richmond as well, though I'm pretty sure they don't do rentals either.

[[User:Ergomatic|steiny]] Me too. I was a pistol and rifle instructor in the USMC in the early '90's...I can coach you if you are a beginner, help you if you are nervous, or want to correct bad habits. I live in Richmond (east bay) and can drive. Count me in!

Eve - interested, can drive, can bring own, seeking guidance on proper maintenance. Hours flexible.

86

2012-03-04T20:55:15Z

50.0.92.186: Undo revision 24292 by 67.188.32.173 (Talk)

People who have fucked up, to the point where they are no longer welcome at Noisebridge, may have their pictures posted on the cork board to the left of the elevator (top floor). If you have photos of banned individuals, please e-mail them to [[mailinglist|noisebridge-discuss]].

==Ilya==

[[file:Ilya.jpg|200px|thumb|left|ilya]]

This person named Ilya was behaving irrationally, and confused his own backpack with Patricks, causing suspicion that he was intending to steal things. He also put on Patricks' clothes and said he thought people were allowed to use whatever items were in the space. He had some small, and not particularly valuable, items that he had pocketed, and had stashed random, not valuable, items in the bathroom. He was unable to explain his behavior to Dr. J and was handed over to police, who did not take him into custody, and he was told not to return to Noisebridge.

He was with his brother Alex who did not do anything sketchy and should not be banned. -jake

==Thief==

[[file:IMG 0291.JPG|200px|thumb|left|Thief]]

[[file:IMG 0292.JPG|200px|thumb|left|Thief]]

[[file:IMG 0293.JPG|200px|thumb|left|Thief]]

This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out of his backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy tried to say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was tackled by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and he kept avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket turned out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe fell onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told him not to come back.

==Jon(athan)==

Was helping with the Noisebride ustream webcasts. He was asked not to come back due to allegations of organizing illegal activities from within Noisebridge and theft. He had a proxy return to the space a few days later on his behalf to retrieve blankets, etc. that he'd apparently stashed in the darkroom. What his proxy took was apparently not the blankets that he wanted, and he shortly thereafter came upstairs and went into the darkroom, himself leaving with a couple bedsheet-lookin' things. The fabric his associate had taken was found in a heap at the bottom of the elevator and returned to the darkroom. Several days later he returned to Noisebridge with his hand shoved in a gym bag, claiming he had as he continued pushing past people to get into the main space, screaming constantly about killing eveyone and then himself. that everyone was to leave, or he would kill them all. He also claimed that the cops were hot on his trail and would arrive at Noisebridge at any moment, and that he intended to provoke a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop suicide-by-cop]. Not sure on whether or not he did have a gun people were not taking a chance as they filed for the exit. However, Derek, Jedi, Rayc, Ben, stayed behind, calling him on his bullshit, four people swarmed him as he made a b-line sprint for the fire escape. They wrestled him to the floor and removed his bags away from him. Jedi arm barred and escorted Jonathan down the stairs to the sidewalk where he instantly sought out the nearest quickly-amassing phalanx of squad cars. Immediate consensus was that he is not welcome in the space again.

[[file:Jon-1.png|200px|thumb|left|Jon]]

[[file:Jon-2.png|200px|thumb|left|Jon]]

== Nyle ==
Male, early 20's, Asian, black beard and hair, 5'8". Please post photo if available.

For more information on Nyle, see 85. Nyle has been spending a whole lot of time at the space recently - perhaps half his days. He never hacks anything and makes no secret of the fact that he never will. Jesse Z and Alan asked him to not come back repeatedly (February - March '12). If he does come back, please escort him out and tell him that he can explain himself at a Tuesday meeting if he would like to.

== Purple ==
See the 85 page. Stole from the member's shelves and from me. -- Rayc