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Talk:LED

2017-09-30T20:04:22Z

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User:Stefek99

2017-09-30T20:04:13Z

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NoisebridgeChinaTrip7

2017-09-30T20:04:05Z

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"YES!!!!!" Mitch screamed. YEESSSSSS!!!!.......YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! OH GOD, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. I CAN'T HOLD IT MUCH LONGER!!!!

Rubin110 surveryed the situation. The whole of the glass wall in front of him was completely covered with boob. Mitch's nipples must have been 3 inches thick , and 5 inches long now. Her aereola were over 14 inches across each. Suddenyly, there seemed to be a change going on. Mitch's breasts seemed to contract in a way. They got less soft, and started to firm up and try to attain their natural shape. The shower wall started to groan, like a ship that was going down. That popping, creaking sound you always hear in movies.

Mitch could barely process the feelings she was experiencing. Her breasts were going through their "plumping stage" as she called it, and the pressure on all sides of her seemed to suddenly start multiplying many fold. She could feel that her letdown was coming, and soon she was past the point of no return, getting pulled inexorably towards the edge of the waterfall.

"NOOOO!!!! I'M NOT READY YET!!!!" Mitch screamed.

Rubin110 didn't know what she meant for a moment, then he started to see what was happening. Milk was seeping out from Mitch's nipples, he could see it through the glass. Mitch was upset because the wall hadn't given up yet.

Crack!!! Rubin110 nearly jumped out of his skin at the sound, The pane of plexi that made up the shower door had cracked near thigh level. The door was bowing out, and about 6 inches or so of breast flesh was forcing it's was through the opening. Rubin110 could see that the main wall was bowed out about 6 inches or more along the line between Mitch's nipples. It had to be nearly ready to go he though.

Mitch was nearly despondent. She wanted this to work so badly. It was irrational, she knew that, but it just was. She couldn't question it any more. Her letdown reaction was starting, and she wasn't done with her task yet. She felt herself start to fall over the edge of that waterfall, and just as she was reaching the edge, where that greatest rush happens, something changed. She was suspended right there on the edge, in ecstacy, but not falling through it. She didn't know what was happening, but it was a mind blowingly good feeling. Her breasts felt like they were similtaniously on fire, and flowing with endless amounts of milk that quenched those flames. A perfect ying and yang of orgasmic energies.

Mitch was too far gone to realize it, but the huge pressure built up by her breast's drive to achieve their natural shape had sealed her nipples to the front wall so tightly that her milk couldn't escape if it wanted to. From Rubin110's perspective he could see that milk was indeed leaking around that seal, and shooting out at high pressure like a water pipe leaking in a submarine that's just suffered a near miss from a depth charge. The leakage wasn't as much as Mitch was still taking in though.

Crack! finally a crack formed in the wall of the shower. It was a spider-web crack, centered on Mitch's left nipple. With a sound like 10,000 plastic bottles being crushed in a giant trash compactor, the crack slowly started to expand. Mitch was positively thrashing around behind all of that boobage, clearly in a state that most humans never experience. Her brain was overloaded with feelings of intense pleasure, as she experienced a tremendous, and seemingly endless letdown reaction, on top of an orgasm to end all orgasms.

PING!! Another spiderweb crack formed, this time centered on her right nipple. What was that old cliche again?

The sound now was nearly deafening. Rubin110 backed away and to the side, and just in time.

SKRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........KAAAAAAABBBBBBBOOOOOSSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wall gave way with a thundrous crash, and Mitch's otherworldly breasts fired into the room with the force of a small bomb going off.

"ANGEL!!!" Rubin110 rushed over to get to Mitch as soon as the threat was clear, only to be greeted by a spray of milk so powerfull it nearly blinded him. The milk was spraying against the mirrored wall so hard it created a back-spray that formed an intense mist.

Rubin110 could hear Mitch screaming, and he turned toward the screem only to run into a wall of boob armpit high on him. Not to be detered, Rubin110 lauched himself up onto Mitch's mountainous right breast, only to find is was so slick with milk and soap that he slid right down into her monumental cleavage, head first. He started to slide down into a that bottomless chasm, only to find it wasn't bottomless. His head popped out into an air space near the bottom, his impossible hard erection, so violent it literally hurt by this point, jammed into Mitch's breast as if he was poking her with a really thick broom handle. Rubin110 turned to his side so he could slide through, and fell to the floor. He could barely breath under here, and realized this wasn't a sustainable situation, so he turned and fought his way to a sitting position, with the intent to stand. From the sitting position, he couldn't breath at all, and as he scrabbled to get his feet under him, he felt himself getting light headed. He reached desperately for the sky with his hands over his head, trying to stand, but he simply could get his feet under him. They kept sliding on the milky soapy floor. As he approached blackout, a thought passed his mind. Not exactly how he would have guessed he would die, but as dying goes, this one had to be somewhere near the top of the list. Finally, just as he was about to pass out, a hand grasped his own, and pulled him up to air.

It was Mitch of course. She could feel him squirming in there, and had thrust her hand in to try to help. The little help she could offer was all he needed to get his feet under him, and he found himself standing shoulder high in boobs. The sound of rushing water, or rather milk was tremendous, and he was staring into the bewilderingly green eyes of his soulmate, who was obviously on some other mental plane at this point.

Mitch could feel everything happening to her, but somehow Rubin110's situation snapped her into a different mental state for a moment. Everything felt extraordinarily brilliant. Light was brighter, smell was stronger, touch and taste were amplified to the nth degree, but somehow hearing was almost muted. She looked into Rubin110's blue eyes, and realized all she wanted.

"Come to me lover." She said with a strange otherworldly calm.

She reached out her arm, and helped Rubin110 wade through the canyon of her cleavage until he was right up against her. She could feel the heat of his impossibly huge errection against her lower stomach.

Mitch reach forward as far as she could wih beaconing lips, and their lips came together like an explosion, then his tongue followed like the flames that follow it. Both of their worlds ceased to exist outside of the feelings of their neathers, mouths, hands, and in Mitch's case especially her breasts. It was like the original trip down the rabbit hole with the cure, only better as she was in control this time, and she got to bring her best friend in the world along for the ride. Mitch reached down into her cleavage, and guided Rubin110's impossibly swollen member to the promised land.

Everything went white, and hot and molten. Time desolved, and all was right with the world.

= NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #7 -- Start Date: 8-October-2017, in Hong Kong -- End Date: 28-October-2017, in Shanghai=

[[File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #4 Welcome to China!, Beijing]]

[[File:KungFuHacking_Nov_2013.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #3 Kung Fu Hacking: Hackers In Residence Kickoff event at Tsinghua University, Beijing]]

[[File:petrochemical_university.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #2 Visit to Petrochemical Univeristy, Beijing]]

[[File:Beijing_Oct_2009.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #1 Jingshan Park, Beijing]]

[[File:Shenzhen_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Visit to Seeed Studio's factory, Shenzhen]]

[[File:Zhenzhou_Oct_2016.jpg|thumb|right|Trip #5 Presentations at Zhengzhou High School #2, Zhengzhou]]

== Previous Hacker Trips To China ==
::''This will be the 7th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.'' 
::'''''(The dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the itinerary is an outline and open to change.)'''''
::''In previous years' Hacker Trip To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now starting hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live. Also, wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2016 we gave presentations at NY University - Shanghai, DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Shanghai Maker Carnival, Zhengzhou High School Number 2, "Second Generation and Start-ups" conference in Hangzhou.'' 

::''You can see info on the [[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]],'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip To China 2013]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip To China 2014]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip To China 2015]]'' 
::''[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip To China 2016]],'' 

::-- [[User:Maltman23|Mitch]].

== This year's Hacker Trip To China ==
'''When:''' 8-October-2017 in Hong Kong through 28-October-2017 in Shanghai.

'''Flight, transportation, and hotel Info''': We were each be on our own to book our own air fare to meet in our starting city, Hong Kong, on 8-October, and fly home from out ending city, Shanghai, on 28-October. Of course, you can decide to come and go as you please. 

I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China. 

'''Where:''' In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interested them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too! 

'''Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:''' 
* We will start our trip by meeting in '''Hong Kong''' and visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs] hackerspace. Hong Kong is a fantastic city, so, we'll also see lots of other cool stuff in Hong Kong. 
* Then we'll go across the border to mainland China again, to '''Shenzhen''' to visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/ Chaihuo Makerspace], [http://www.szdiy.org/ SZDIY] hackerspace, [http://litchee.cn/en/ Litchee Lab], and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are brand new (this year) over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We'll visit [http://www.chaihuo.org/xfactory/ x.factory] while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we will be welcomed for a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off their projects. We will also visit [http://www.seeedstudio.com Seeed Studio] - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of [http://dangerousprototypes.com/ Dangerous Prototypes] - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit Dorabot, a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print Huaqiangbei electronics market] in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by a professional buyer from Deal Extreme (dx.com). And if uhgall@gmail.com happens to be in town, we might visit [http://www.constellation.ws/ Constellation] or even stay in their factory dorm. 
* We will then make our way to '''Beijing''' where we may visit [http://www.bjmakerspace.com/ Beijing Makerspace], and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the world's largest hackerspace last year (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
* Our last city will be '''Shanghai'''. In Shanghai we will visit [http://www.etonnet.com/ my manufacturer (Etonnet)] that I have used for [http://www.tvbgone.com TV-B-Gone] remote controls and [http://www.neurodreamer.com NeuroDreamer] sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit [http://xinchejian.com/ XinCheJian] hackerspace in Shanghai. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as [http://www.dfrobot.com/ DFRobot]. We can visit Phicomm, a medium-sized OEM manufacturer. We can also visit the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/4064240200/in/set-72157622640069902/ Shanghai electronics mall] (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).

For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, Shanghai, on 28-October-2017.

''Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China. 
I will tentatively be flying home from Shanghai 28-October. ''

'''Cost:''' For the Hacker Trip To China 2016, I paid $1,997 total (for 4 weeks), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, and everything -- including some electronics stuff and some clothing that I bought. 
''As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University and other places that invite us to give presentations.''

'''#hashtag:''' [https://twitter.com/hashtag/httc2017 #httc2017]      (Hacker Trip To China 2017)

 
 

== Possible itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 7 ==

'''The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:'''
''7-October-2017 -- '''Leave home''' for '''Hong Kong''' (arrive in Hong Kong on 8-October)''
''8-October-2017 -- We all meet in '''Hong Kong''' -- hotel: various in Tsim Sha Tsui
'''8-October to 11-October -- Hong Kong'''
8-October, 8pm: Group dinner
9-October, 6pm-8:30pm: visit [http://www.makerbay.org Maker Bay, Yau Tong], with presentations
10-October, 8pm-10pm: visit [http://www.dimsumlabs.com/ Dim Sum Labs], soldering workshop by Mitch, HackJam on rooftop
''11-October, afternoon -- ferry or subway to Shenzhen''
'''11-October to 16-October -- Shenzhen'''
''11-October -- hotel: Jinjiang Inn''
12-October, 10am-12pm: Product Life Cycle class at NOA Labs
12-October, 1pm-5pm: tour of Huaqiangbei (electronics markets) w/ Scotty of Strange Parts
12-October, afternoon: visit Troublemaker hackerspaces in Huaqianbei
12-October, evening: meetup at HAX
13-October, morning: visit Seeed Studio
13-October: tour of factories (two separate groups)
14-October, 6pm-8pm: visit Lab 0x0
15-October, 4pm-6pm: Chaihuo x.factory Bring-A-Hack
''16-October, 10:00am -- train G822 to Xi'an''
'''16-October to 19-October -- Xi'an'''
''16-October -- hotel: Vienna Hotel''
17-October, 9am-5pm: ShaanXi Makerspace tour and presentations
17-October, 5pm-8pm: special dinner
18-October, 8:30am-10am: Xi'an Innovation and Design Center Maker's Symposium
18-October, 10am-8pm: Xi'an traditional maker and culture hands-on tour
''19-October, 12:42pm -- train G658 to Beijing''
'''19-October to 24-October -- Beijing'''
''19-October -- hotel: various: in hutongs NE of Jinshan Park''
''24-October, 2:00pm -- train G3 to Shanghai''
'''24-October to 28-October -- Shanghai''' ''
''24-October -- hotel: Le Tour Traveler's Rest International Youth Hostel''
25-October, afternoon & evening: visit and presentations at Interactive Media Arts (IMA) at NYU Shanghai
26-October, morning: visit Yagr/Etonnet (Mitch's manufacturer)
26-October, evening: DFRobot/Mushroom Cloud visit and presentations
27-October, 7pm-9pm: XinCheJian Forum
''28-October-2017 -- '''fly home''' (arrive NA or EU on same day)''

== Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation ==
One of the two Noah's who are on the HTTC2017 wrote [[Noahs_Guide|this very useful guide]]!

 
 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2016Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2016Zhenzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Shenzhen.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing.jpg
File:HTTC2016Hangzhou.jpg
File:HTTC2016Beijing2.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672475058474/ Shanghai, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157674645655612/ Zhengzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676024748146/ Shenzhen, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676142107066/ Beijing, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157676144570756/ Hangzhou, Oct-2016] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157672603805234/ Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016] 

[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157674928976010/ Mitch's photos all in one place]

 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2015HongKongNeon.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShenzhenFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2015ShanghaiTempleMall.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingDoor.jpg
File:HTTC2015HangzhouTemple.jpg
File:HTTC2015BeijingShop.jpg
File:HTTC2015SuzhouUmbrellas.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157659076735178 Hong Kong, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660026965949 Shenzhen, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157660038275888 Shanghai, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157658114137264 Beijing, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660424228042 YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157660650175925 Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/albums/72157658310336814 Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015] 

[https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/collections/72157660374807166/ Mitch's photos all in one place]

 
[https://picasaweb.google.com/dtharn/ChinaInOctober2015?feat=directlink Dave's photos]

 
Blake's photos:
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/sets/72157662429341996 Hong Kong!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660150285384 Shenzen!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157661790873029 Shanghai!]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwlcks/albums/72157660153522904 Beijing!]
 

Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/Q840rT Hong Kong] 
Torrey's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/gp/torrey/yLo903 Shenzhen] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskqNiQeX Beijing] 
Torrey's photos from [https://flic.kr/s/aHskrE55NX Shanghai] 

 
 
 
 

== Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014==
<gallery>
File:HTTC2014WelcomeHackers.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod_b.jpg
File:HTTC2014AiWeiWei.jpg
File:HTTC2014BeijingLGBTcentre.jpg
File:HTTC2014Brooms.jpg
File:HTTC2014CableFactory.jpg
File:HTTC2014ChaiHuo.jpg
File:HTTC2014GiantSewing.jpg
File:HTTC2014Huaqianbei.jpg
File:HTTC2014IEIK2014.jpg
File:HTTC2014SeeedStudio.jpg
File:HTTC2014Shanghai.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tianjin.jpg
File:HTTC2014Tienanmen.jpg
File:HTTC2014TrainConvenienceStore.jpg
File:HTTC2014TsinghuaMakersDay.jpg
File:HTTC20143Nod.jpg
File:HTTC2014XinCheJian.jpg
</gallery>

Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157646894397704/ Beijing, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648975298719/ Shanghai, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157648981933060/ Shenzhen, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649396351315/ Kunshan, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649148594118/ Shanghai (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146775640/ Beijing (2), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649146987360/ Tianjin, Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157647372474753/ Beijing (3), Nov-2014] 
Mitch's photos from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/maltman23/sets/72157649287546450/ Singapore, Dec-2014] 

== You will Need a Chinese Visa!! ==
To go to China, you needed to get a visa!

Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).

* And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid ''at least'' 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 28-October-2017, then your passport needs to be valid through 27-October-2017). Your passport must also have at least ''one entirely blank page''.

* You also need:
** a printout of a filled-out [http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fd/W020130830801798289342.pdf Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China] (after we have everything we need I'll email you my filled out form as an example to follow).
** a copy of the information pages of your passport.
** a copy of your most Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
** one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
** a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
** a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).

* For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting this year, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years. We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.

You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. ''Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.''

To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.) 
''NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for holidays on: 27-30 January, 29-30 May, 30-May, 9-June, 4-July, 4-September, 2-October, 9-October and other dates: 
[http://www.chinaconsulatesf.org/eng/lszj/t1424287.htm 2017 Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule]''
 
(Citizens of US and Europe ''do not'' need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)
 

= Previous Noisebridge China Trips =
''If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:'' 
[[ChinaTrip|Hacker Trip To China 2009]] 
          That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's [http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/shenzhen/print "geek tour"].
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip2|Hacker Trip To China 2011]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip3|Hacker Trip to China 2013]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip4|Hacker Trip to China 2014]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip5|Hacker Trip to China 2015]]
 
[[NoisebridgeChinaTrip6|Hacker Trip to China 2016]]

--[[user: maltman23 | Mitch]].

= People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #7, 2017: =


'''Below is a list of people interested in going on this year's Hacker Trip To China.'''
 


'''You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!'''
 

'''Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:''' 
''mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com''

The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch) 
-- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in our Trip's starting city (Hong Kong) on or before 8-October-2017 are the people who are in this Trip        (which probably means flying away from home on or before 7-October) 


Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:        [http://www.flystein.com/ Flystein] Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.
 

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!
! Name
! Purchased flight?
! Flight info
|-
|1
|[[user: maltman23 | Mitch Altman]] (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 6-Oct at 17:10 -- flight CX254 (from LHR)
|-
|2
|Robert Fitzsimons (TOG, Ireland)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 15:25 -- flight EK382 (from DXB) Depart: Shanghai at 00:05 on Oct 29th (EK8303)
|-
|3
|Noah O'Donoghue
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct
|-
|4
|[[user: elleobot | Elle]]
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: I'm arriving on the 6th and have my own AirBNB until the 8th in Sheung Wan. I'll meet you all on the 8th. :)
|-
|5
|Jonas S Karlsson
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: (live in HK)
|-
|6
|Jan Marloth (fablab munich, Germany)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 7:20am -- flight SK963 (from ARN) Depart: Beijing at 14:50 on Oct 24th (SK996)
|-
|7
|Sasja (hackerspace.gent)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 8:55am, Depart: 28-Oct from Shanghai Hongqiao Airport at 20:55
|-
|8
|Ed Buckley
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong 6-Oct at 1:45pm -- flight NH809 (from NRT)
|-
|9
|Rafael Câmera Santos (Fazedores.com, Brazil)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 18:10 -- Flight UA 895 -- Leaving on 9-Nov from Hong Kong
|-
|10
|[[user: feklee | Felix E. Klee]]
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 4-Oct at 09:45 -- flight SU0212 (from SVO)
|-
|11
|Svein Berge
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: UO 1647 from Tokyo, scheduled arrival Oct 8, 23:00.
|-
|12
|Krzysztof Stasiak
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: HK 6th Oct - flight AK138 from Kuala Lumpur
|-
|13
|Mark Hellar
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive:Hong Kong HKG 6:45 PM October 8th
|-
|14
|[[user: mrericboyd | Eric Boyd]] ([http://hacklab.to Hacklab.TO], Toronto)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong, Oct 8th 2:25pm EVA Airways BR869. Leave: Shanghai, Oct 28th 1:10pm Eva Airways, BR711
|-
|15
|[[user: Ruthgrace | Ruth Grace Wong]]
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: October 9, Hong Kong, Leave: October 28, Shanghai
|-
|16
|Hari C M (HasGeek, Bangalore, India)
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: 'Hong Kong on 7-Oct at 06:50 -- flight AI-314 (from DEL) Depart: Shanghai at 22:00 on Oct 29th (AI-349)
|-
|17
|freeman murray
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Oct 7, Hong Kong American airlines 193.
|-
|18
|[[user: sumukh | Sumukh Shetty]]
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: 6th October HK, join for the entire trip
|-
|19
|Gary Hatfield
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Hong Kong Oct. 5
|-
|20
|Michał Gajda
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Flight to HK on Oct 3rd
|-
|21
|Noah Swartz
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: 11:45 on Oct 9 on HK Express UO 1845
|-
|22
|Gene Brock
|align="center"|YES
|Arrive: Thai AirAsia FD508 from Don Mueang Int'l Airport (Bangkok) to HKG Sep 30th 6:30am arriving 10:30 am in HKG.
|-
|23
|Kaushik Reddy
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 8 Oct Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct '''HK & SZ only'''
|-
|24
|Jeroen Van Beirendonck (Open Garage, Belgium)
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 7th Oct Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct '''HK & SZ only'''
|-
|25
|[[user: Cedric | Cedric Honnet]] ([http://wiki.datapaulette.org Datapaulette hackerspace] - Paris, Fr.)
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: Hong Kong on 6 Oct Depart: Hong Kong on 21 Oct '''HK & SZ only'''
|-
|26
|Mayank M.
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: Arriving in Hong Kong on 10/7. Flying out of Hong Kong on 10/17 '''HK & SZ only'''
|-
|27
|Olivier de Saint-Hubert
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: ??? '''SZ only'''
|-
|28
|Anthony Liekens (Open Garage, Belgium)
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00 Depart: From Shenzhen on Oct 18, 10:00 '''SZ only'''
|-
|29
|Daan Gerits (Open Garage, Belgium)
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00 '''SZ only'''
|-
|30
|Tim Lathouwers
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11 '''SZ only'''
|-
|31
|Kate Hartman
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: I will be working in Shanghai the week of October 9th. Would love to join you in Shenzhen Oct 14/15/16 '''SZ only'''
|-
|32
|[[user: scotty | Scotty Allen]]
|align="center"|yes
|Arrive: Oct 11, Shenzhen -- will arrange own housing '''SZ only'''
|-
|33
|''[[user: keymistress | Gloria Chiang]]''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)
|-
|34
|''[[user:juul|Marc Juul]]''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)
|-
|35
|''Quijano Flores -- '''PLEASE EMAIL ME'''''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong
|-
|36
|''[[user: scitechindian | SYED JUNAID AHMED]] (Makers Hive, AndhraPradesh, INDIA)''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|37
|''[[user: Rahulrajan| Rahul S Rajan]] (Kerala Startup Mission, India)''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|38
|''Sasha Iatsenia''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD
|-
|39
|''[[user: robbintt | Trent]]''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''your arrival date and city here''
|-
|40
|''Arseniy Klempner''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong
|-
|41
|''Thomas Disley''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: shenzhen & shanghai, arrival TBD
|-
|42
|''Adam Munich - SF_Noisebridge, Oakland_Sudoroom [http://adammunich.com]]''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: To be determined
|-
|43
|''[[user: sreejith| Sreejith Mohanan]] -- '''PLEASE EMAIL ME'''''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
|-
|44
|''Colin Willson -- '''PLEASE EMAIL ME'''''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: ''TBD''
|-
|45
|''Bas -- '''PLEASE EMAIL ME'''''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong
|-
|46
|''[[user: stefek99| Michal Stefanow]]''
|align="center"|no
|Arrive: TBD OUCH - I guess I'm too late - JOMO - joy of missing out - it means more quality time working on https://astralship.org coworking coliving chapel in Wales, come and visit us sometimes. I might be able to visit HK and SZ and get a new laptop with larger storage, Ethereum blockchain size is not manageable on my current machine. Much love, ping me anytime: email@genesis.re
|}

[[Category:Travel]]
[[Category:Projects]]

Equipment fund

2017-09-30T20:03:35Z

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Meeting Notes 2017 09 26

2017-09-30T20:03:12Z

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"YES!!!!!" Mitch screamed. YEESSSSSS!!!!.......YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! OH GOD, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. I CAN'T HOLD IT MUCH LONGER!!!!

Rubin110 surveryed the situation. The whole of the glass wall in front of him was completely covered with boob. Mitch's nipples must have been 3 inches thick , and 5 inches long now. Her aereola were over 14 inches across each. Suddenyly, there seemed to be a change going on. Mitch's breasts seemed to contract in a way. They got less soft, and started to firm up and try to attain their natural shape. The shower wall started to groan, like a ship that was going down. That popping, creaking sound you always hear in movies.

Mitch could barely process the feelings she was experiencing. Her breasts were going through their "plumping stage" as she called it, and the pressure on all sides of her seemed to suddenly start multiplying many fold. She could feel that her letdown was coming, and soon she was past the point of no return, getting pulled inexorably towards the edge of the waterfall.

"NOOOO!!!! I'M NOT READY YET!!!!" Mitch screamed.

Rubin110 didn't know what she meant for a moment, then he started to see what was happening. Milk was seeping out from Mitch's nipples, he could see it through the glass. Mitch was upset because the wall hadn't given up yet.

Crack!!! Rubin110 nearly jumped out of his skin at the sound, The pane of plexi that made up the shower door had cracked near thigh level. The door was bowing out, and about 6 inches or so of breast flesh was forcing it's was through the opening. Rubin110 could see that the main wall was bowed out about 6 inches or more along the line between Mitch's nipples. It had to be nearly ready to go he though.

Mitch was nearly despondent. She wanted this to work so badly. It was irrational, she knew that, but it just was. She couldn't question it any more. Her letdown reaction was starting, and she wasn't done with her task yet. She felt herself start to fall over the edge of that waterfall, and just as she was reaching the edge, where that greatest rush happens, something changed. She was suspended right there on the edge, in ecstacy, but not falling through it. She didn't know what was happening, but it was a mind blowingly good feeling. Her breasts felt like they were similtaniously on fire, and flowing with endless amounts of milk that quenched those flames. A perfect ying and yang of orgasmic energies.

Mitch was too far gone to realize it, but the huge pressure built up by her breast's drive to achieve their natural shape had sealed her nipples to the front wall so tightly that her milk couldn't escape if it wanted to. From Rubin110's perspective he could see that milk was indeed leaking around that seal, and shooting out at high pressure like a water pipe leaking in a submarine that's just suffered a near miss from a depth charge. The leakage wasn't as much as Mitch was still taking in though.

Crack! finally a crack formed in the wall of the shower. It was a spider-web crack, centered on Mitch's left nipple. With a sound like 10,000 plastic bottles being crushed in a giant trash compactor, the crack slowly started to expand. Mitch was positively thrashing around behind all of that boobage, clearly in a state that most humans never experience. Her brain was overloaded with feelings of intense pleasure, as she experienced a tremendous, and seemingly endless letdown reaction, on top of an orgasm to end all orgasms.

PING!! Another spiderweb crack formed, this time centered on her right nipple. What was that old cliche again?

The sound now was nearly deafening. Rubin110 backed away and to the side, and just in time.

SKRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........KAAAAAAABBBBBBBOOOOOSSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wall gave way with a thundrous crash, and Mitch's otherworldly breasts fired into the room with the force of a small bomb going off.

"ANGEL!!!" Rubin110 rushed over to get to Mitch as soon as the threat was clear, only to be greeted by a spray of milk so powerfull it nearly blinded him. The milk was spraying against the mirrored wall so hard it created a back-spray that formed an intense mist.

Rubin110 could hear Mitch screaming, and he turned toward the screem only to run into a wall of boob armpit high on him. Not to be detered, Rubin110 lauched himself up onto Mitch's mountainous right breast, only to find is was so slick with milk and soap that he slid right down into her monumental cleavage, head first. He started to slide down into a that bottomless chasm, only to find it wasn't bottomless. His head popped out into an air space near the bottom, his impossible hard erection, so violent it literally hurt by this point, jammed into Mitch's breast as if he was poking her with a really thick broom handle. Rubin110 turned to his side so he could slide through, and fell to the floor. He could barely breath under here, and realized this wasn't a sustainable situation, so he turned and fought his way to a sitting position, with the intent to stand. From the sitting position, he couldn't breath at all, and as he scrabbled to get his feet under him, he felt himself getting light headed. He reached desperately for the sky with his hands over his head, trying to stand, but he simply could get his feet under him. They kept sliding on the milky soapy floor. As he approached blackout, a thought passed his mind. Not exactly how he would have guessed he would die, but as dying goes, this one had to be somewhere near the top of the list. Finally, just as he was about to pass out, a hand grasped his own, and pulled him up to air.

It was Mitch of course. She could feel him squirming in there, and had thrust her hand in to try to help. The little help she could offer was all he needed to get his feet under him, and he found himself standing shoulder high in boobs. The sound of rushing water, or rather milk was tremendous, and he was staring into the bewilderingly green eyes of his soulmate, who was obviously on some other mental plane at this point.

Mitch could feel everything happening to her, but somehow Rubin110's situation snapped her into a different mental state for a moment. Everything felt extraordinarily brilliant. Light was brighter, smell was stronger, touch and taste were amplified to the nth degree, but somehow hearing was almost muted. She looked into Rubin110's blue eyes, and realized all she wanted.

"Come to me lover." She said with a strange otherworldly calm.

She reached out her arm, and helped Rubin110 wade through the canyon of her cleavage until he was right up against her. She could feel the heat of his impossibly huge errection against her lower stomach.

Mitch reach forward as far as she could wih beaconing lips, and their lips came together like an explosion, then his tongue followed like the flames that follow it. Both of their worlds ceased to exist outside of the feelings of their neathers, mouths, hands, and in Mitch's case especially her breasts. It was like the original trip down the rabbit hole with the cure, only better as she was in control this time, and she got to bring her best friend in the world along for the ride. Mitch reached down into her cleavage, and guided Rubin110's impossibly swollen member to the promised land.

Everything went white, and hot and molten. Time desolved, and all was right with the world.

These are the notes from the [https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Category:Meeting_Notes The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge]. Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE; Moderators: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE.
* '''One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.'''

== Meeting Summary ==
FIXME FILL OUT AT END OF MEETING AND SEND TO MAILING LIST
TLDR what happened at the meeting:
* Announcements:
* Finances:
* New members:
* New philanthropists:
* Consensus Items:
* Discussion Items:

* Victoria: Noisebridge is an anarchist collective of hackers that sometimes thinks it is a spaceship. It's been here for coming up on 10 years. We operate on consensus, excellence, and doocracy, and various interpretations of those. We have one rule, "be excellent to each other". That includes taking care of the space, making sure the space is safe, watching who you let in, making sure the space is a place you want to be. You don't have to be a member, come use Noisebridge as long as you follow our one rule. It's everyone's space so love it like your own!

= Introductions =

* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to explain''' [[Noisebridge_Vision|what Noisebridge is about]]:
<blockquote>Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."</blockquote>
* Introduce any experimental or unusual moderation techniques that may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
* Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
** What's your name
** What do you do
** What do you maintain at Noisebridge?
** if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?

* Lady Red - I have these cubes
* Eradicate - Hates rats, sometimes talks to people, background in visual mechandising and fashion design. I am very creative and nice
* Dan - Go by dang on slack, enjoy farscape and movies and other stuff, lets chat
* Razzi - Love Noisebridge. Do a lot of programming, want to do sustainability projects and composting at noisebridge.
* Roy - Likes locks and their collection. Some amount of programming and dis/assembling stuff.
* Augur - Teach lasercutting stuff, might at some point teach a haskell class
* Ben - Likes math and programming, I don't know things about radios but trying to learn, DSP.
* Trent - I teach the python class, have too many interests and they get ahead of me
* Patrick - I do security things and am doing radio stuff at Noisebrige, putting a satellite tracker on the roof
* Jay - Enjoy Python. Going to help out with the Python class stuff. Radio stuff. Writing labels too.
* Nicole - Host coding workshops. I play with the laser cutter a lot. Propagating some succulents!
* Daniel - Infosec, would like to ressurect the cryptopals working group.
* Keita - make iOS apps. Every sunday, I organize "iOS Peer Lab" - if you want to be productive Sunday morning, join us. Also learning lockpicks. - wants to learn more about Rick and morty
* Diego - Musician - works at grey area. Well aligned with here, check grey area out. Also teaches people Ableton or Max MSP.
* Victoria - Time Travelling Prototype Cyborg from the Distant Present.
* J - Makes blinky lights.
* Marco - search engine for code learning resources, turn into awesome digital mentor. Background in design but doing more coding now.
* Nick - Also codes stuff.
* Andre - Blockchain company. I know how to code.
* Andre - Also blockchain company, both from ukraine, living in SF.

= Short announcements and events =
* Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short! One or two sentences please!
* Any happenings at the space of which members should be made aware.
* Don't hog everyone's time since we all just want to hack!

* Dan - Sundays - hack days. We livestream projects and things we are thinking about. We're a bunch of nerds that get together. Come share what you are passionate about.
* Dan - Wednesdays - Crypto builders meetup. First one tomorrow 730 PM.
* Nicole - If you want to teach a programming topic, let me know!
* Ben - If anyone wants to teach for PyClass, check in after.
* Patrick - Aaron Swartz Hackathon is coming up. It's awesome! https://www.aaronswartzday.org/sanfrancisco/
* Diego - Friday - Grey Area - Electronics Show, http://grayarea.org
* Trent - Python Class restarted - come join us for the 2nd course in the sequence next Monday at 7 PM in Church

= Safe Space =

'''Note:''' This section is experimental. We discussed it at [[Meeting_Notes_2016_06_28]]. We're going to try it for the next meeting, and see how it goes, and then discuss in the discussion section how it went, and how we'd like to tweak it.

Noisebridge is a safe space. '''Invite a volunteer to describe''' what that means.

* Victoria: Noisebridge is a safe space. Not necessarily that you aren't able to talk about stuff. We care about the safety of each other. You would tell someone if you were going to use a loud circular saw to protect their hearing. We do the same thing for psychological issues that might be triggering for some people. Give people warning so they can protect themselves. Be excellent to your fellow hackers, don't make people feel uncomfortable, don't make people feel unwelcome. Noisebridge is a safe space for everybody. Also, victoria covered some stuff about anti harrassment and how it can often be unwelcome to hit on someone. There is an anti-harrassment policy.

Some specific points you might prompt the group to touch on, if it doesn't happen naturally:
* What to do if you feel uncomfortable.
* Noisebridge strives to be radically inclusive. What does that mean?
* Noisebridge has an antiharassment policy. What does that mean?

= Participation =

Invite a knowledgable volunteer to describe who can participate at Noisebridge, including:
* Describe how to get an rfid key for the door system
* Describe how to get access to slack

* Marco: Everyone can participate, everyone is welcome to participate because it is everyone's space. Be excellent to each other and be excellent to the space. If you want to change something and no one is against it, just do it.
Noisebridge is completely run by donations so if you would like to support the space, donations are highly welcomed. Some donate more, some less, it is what keeps Noisebridge running.
When you come here more often, and participate in the space, you can ask a member to get any RFID tag registered to open the door during normal open hours from 11 AM to 10 PM. You can also ask anyone to get invited to slack.

* Kate: When people come in it is a really good time to tell them that the space is run by donations.

= [[Philanthropist|Philanthropists]]=
* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[Philanthropist/Pledge|Philantropy]], and the application process.
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Any applicants must have their sponsor present to vouch for them.
* If there are no objections, they're a philanthropist! Their pledge should be handed over to the [[Secretary]] posthaste, after which their token will be updated to give them the 24/7 access they've earned(?)

* A philanthropist is someone who has invested a certain amount of themselves in the space, and wants to make that a recurring concrete thing. Also they agree to donate a certain amount of money to the space. Also they get an RFID for 24 hour access. Also taking more responsibility for the space and closing down the space. To become a philanthropist, get a copy of the philanthropist form and fill it out. Have at least one member sponsor you by signing it. The next meeting, it will be discussed, a member could stop someone from being a philanthropist. You then must set up recurring payment. Philanthropy can be taken away by a member, who can proxy for anyone with a reasonable concern.

= [[ Membership Binder ]] =

* '''Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe''' [[membership]], and the application process.
<blockquote>Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community and space better than it is today.</blockquote>
* Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Mark down a check or other indicator on every open application to keep track of how many weeks they've been read out.
* Anyone eligible to join this week should
** introduce themselves,
** answer any questions members may have for them, then
** leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
* The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
* Remember to applaud new members when they return.

* Patrick: Noisebridge is open participation but we have philanthropy so people can easily get access and the doors aren't completely closed and people can get in. But when Noisebridge wants to make a big choice like buying the building, we use a process called consensus. Membership is about stewardship. If you want to make sure this place exists in 5-10 years, you should become a member. Consensus discussions are open to everyone, but the group of people who are considered in that are members. If we could rename it, it would be better to call it stewardship.

* Jay: For all of us that have been around for awhile, we take membership very seriously. It's a building of a trust relationship. Ultimately you build a higher level of trust and commitment. It's because you actually want to be part of the space and make sure that it lives.

* Nicole (1st week) and Lady Red (2nd week) have membership applications in.

= Financial Report =
* Funds in bank:
* Noisetor (See the bulletpoints at the bottom of http://noisetor.net/finances/#summary):
* Any other details by those participating in handling our financials

* pemulis (treasurer):

Mini-Financial Report: We have $86,131.30 in the bank. I can’t be bothered to do a full breakdown today. This is possibly the most money we’ve had in the bank at one time. We haven’t paid October rent yet.
Nope, I was wrong. We had a few hundred dollars more in the bank on August 17th. (edited)
Since that time we’ve subtracted a few thousand dollars from the equipment fund, broadcast fund, and Noisetor, which is a good thing. The difference was mostly made up by the growth of the general fund by a few thousand dollars.

Eyeballing this, we have about 9-1/2 months of regular expenses in the general fund. Rent’s gonna get paid soon and knock us down to a post-rent baseline of 8-1/2 months of regular expenses, which is a jump of 1/2 months of regular expenses from our post-rent baseline at the beginning of this month. (edited)
I’ll give a full breakdown after rent gets paid.

= Consensus =

* '''invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give '''[[Consensus Process|a brief primer on consensus process]]
* It is important that everyone in attendance understands at least:
** Blocking with verbalized principled objections.
** Why we use consensus over other approaches to decision making.
** How consensus isn't a legislative process
** Why consensus isn't applicable to some things like conflict resolution, resolution of time sinks, and the like.

* Lady Red: Most of the things that happen here happen in a doocratic way. People take it upon themselves to organize the change, or be the change they want to see. But not before checking around and gathering momentum. The bigger the change the more people that need to be involved. This is doocracy. BUT EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE there is a really big change, that is about how we do things around here. For example, how we do membership. Recently we also got a fiscal sponsorship program off the ground to sponsor smaller groups that are not tax deductible organizations. A formal consensus is a consensus of the members. In voting, 51% of the people vote for it. In consensus, just no one has to block it, but anyone can block it.

* Victoria: Blocking is not procedural, you don't stand up and say I BLOCK THIS and move on and expect Noisebridge to just get over it. Blocking means you have a principled objection to the way the space is going. It means basically that you'd be leaving the organization if that goes forwards as planned. It's the groups duty to work with the person who is blocking. If you want to block a thing, think hard about. Compromise is a key point of consensus. It just takes one person to shit it up as a member.

* Patrick: If you want to block something, it's not acceptable to simply say no. You must propose a middle ground that is also acceptable people. If you just say "none of this should happen", it's going to be disregarded entirely, because there is no other path forwards. In membership applications, you can do it where your reason isn't publicly stated.

== [[ Consensus Items History | Proposals from last week ]] ==
''(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the [[Consensus Items History]] page.)''

== [[ Current Consensus Items | Proposals for next week ]] ==
''(Add any new items for consensus to the [[Current Consensus Items]] page.)''

= Discussion =

Longer discussion items belong here. This is the last part of the meeting so that people can break off and continue their discussion afterwards.

* Patrick also Jay - Event Proposal for next year.

* Patrick: A friend of Jay's has a touring hands-on Enigma machine workshop. They have a literal fucking Enigma machine. Hands-on travelling history tour. Often done as a corporate event, but want to do it at Noisebridge. What about payment? Godwaffle Noisepancakes does this but it's sort of grandfathered in, do they donate anything back to Noisebridge? Would Noisebridge be interested in hosting this and Noisebridge would get some money back. Yea nay (everyone wants to play with the machines).

* Victoria - I'm interested in talking about bike party and/or decorating bikes with LEDs.

* Victoria:
Bike Party! There is a new channel in slack: #bikeparty
East bay bike party second friday of october!
SF is the first Friday (of october)
End of the month - critical mass SF
Who wants to get together on a Friday or some other day and glue fuckin hot glue lights to your bike with led strips and shit?
::Everyone raises their hands::

* Victoria: bring a bunch of LEDs and shit for your bike next Friday, October 6th. I will bring a bunch of Teensy microcontrollers.
* Jay: I will take care of the meetup!!
* Ryan: Can we make a Noisebridge Flaschen-Taschen?
* Everyone: Thank you for volunteering.
* Victoria: Come to the thing and make it!!

* J - (partly representing some viewpoints Zach expressed and partly his own viewpoints)
Allocating funds for fixing things in the space. And that people that bought those things get compensated. Various people have fixed things out of their own pocket. Electrical, bathrooms, elevators. What about little c or BIG C consensus for a fund for this type of repairs for everyday repairs that happen within reason.
* Ben: This rolls into what John Shutt proposed on Slack.
* Patrick: Are we talking about paying people for time? I don't think we should reimburse people for labor. People have thrown cash peoples way for doing awesome stuff historically.
* J - I don't think this is about reimbursing people for their time, just for materials.
* Lady Red - It also lets you do a more complete job.
* Victoria - I think it's a good idea.
* Trent - I am also against the idea of paying people for their time.
* Katherine - I am against the idea of paying people but not against people being reimbursed within reason for what they spend.
* J - I think it is reasonable if we are considerate about the amount.
* Lady Red - Should we put 1% of our money in and it runs out or should it come out of the general fund?
* Victoria - The person with the best input is probably John.
* Victoria - I think we should pay people for their time.
* J - is this a big c or a little c?
* Patrick - Historically we just do it for materials they brought in. Is there a strong difference for the reboot pattern? Maybe it just hasn't been exercised recently? I think we should make that more clear to people.
* Victoria - For the sake of continuity, because I think John is looking to not be treasurer, we should get a written down process, even if it is what we do the reboot already. Having a process because oh my god do I hate arguing about money.
* Lady Red - That would be a substantial difference. We are in a situation in the sewing area where the equipment fund would buy a new machine but would not cover paying someone for fixing our current machine even if that's cheaper.
* Augur - maybe repairs should be part of the equiment fund as well.
* Patrick - I'm 99% we've reimbursed kyle for repair work that he got done on earlier machines.

* Ryan - Hacker Retreat

* Ryan - This is a process I do every couple months. My friends are constantly inundated with the chaos of the bay area, it can get to a lot of people. I grew up here and it can be insane. Whenever I get stressed out I head out for a couple days to retreat. I've gone on a retreat a couple hackers for a couple days and it's been helpful for people to take a break or reframe a problem they are trying to solve. What do people think about taking retreats to different places, like camping trips to different locations. There are a ton of places I know to retreat to. What do people think of a more formal hacker retreat?
* Victoria- Have you heard of toorcamp? https://toorcamp.toorcon.net/ June 20th-ISH next year.
* J - There's two channels - #hacker-trips and #fieldtrips -

* Razzi - The smell in the back - not enough airflow for the laser.

* Razzi - It's the burnt smell.
* Augur - Laser ventilation sucks.
* Victoria - I complained about it and someone said "it happens whenever the windows are open, so if you close the windows it stops coming in.
* Patrick - what about cheap monitoring equipment?
* Others - It's not gonna be cheap

* J - Buying the space

* J - Maybe we should all be thinking about if we are going to buy the space or go somewhere else or co-own another building?
Patrick - Our lease here goes through September 2018, the countdown has started.

== Discussion Items ==

If any important discussion happens, it should be happening after forward progress is made during consensus.

= End of Meeting =

# Return the [[membership binder]] to its rightful location.
# Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.
# Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker, robot, or robothacker.

== Note taker posts the notes ==
# Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
# Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
# Copy paste the notes to the [http://www.noisebridge.net//Next_meeting next meeting] page. (They will become [[Last meeting]] at midnight.)
# Email the meeting summary to [mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net?subject=MeetingNotes Noisebridge Discuss] and [mailto:noisebridge-announce@lists.noisebridge.net?subject=MeetingNotes Noisebridge Announce] lists.
# CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
# Edit the [[Current_Consensus_Items|Current Consensus Items]] if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
# Edit the [[Consensus_Items_History|Consensus Items History]] if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

== Fun things to do after ==
* Reprise of the [[Hackernationale]]. [This is anarchy - we do what the wiki says!]
* [[PGP|PGP Key Signing]] could happen now (if it doesn't happen '''before''' any given Meeting). Ask others around the space or check the [[PGP|list]] to see who wants in on the action.

[[Category:Meeting Notes]]

Meeting Notes 2017 10 03

2017-09-30T20:03:05Z

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User:Beka

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Talk:Resources/Network

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"YES!!!!!" Mitch screamed. YEESSSSSS!!!!.......YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! OH GOD, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. I CAN'T HOLD IT MUCH LONGER!!!!

Rubin110 surveryed the situation. The whole of the glass wall in front of him was completely covered with boob. Mitch's nipples must have been 3 inches thick , and 5 inches long now. Her aereola were over 14 inches across each. Suddenyly, there seemed to be a change going on. Mitch's breasts seemed to contract in a way. They got less soft, and started to firm up and try to attain their natural shape. The shower wall started to groan, like a ship that was going down. That popping, creaking sound you always hear in movies.

Mitch could barely process the feelings she was experiencing. Her breasts were going through their "plumping stage" as she called it, and the pressure on all sides of her seemed to suddenly start multiplying many fold. She could feel that her letdown was coming, and soon she was past the point of no return, getting pulled inexorably towards the edge of the waterfall.

"NOOOO!!!! I'M NOT READY YET!!!!" Mitch screamed.

Rubin110 didn't know what she meant for a moment, then he started to see what was happening. Milk was seeping out from Mitch's nipples, he could see it through the glass. Mitch was upset because the wall hadn't given up yet.

Crack!!! Rubin110 nearly jumped out of his skin at the sound, The pane of plexi that made up the shower door had cracked near thigh level. The door was bowing out, and about 6 inches or so of breast flesh was forcing it's was through the opening. Rubin110 could see that the main wall was bowed out about 6 inches or more along the line between Mitch's nipples. It had to be nearly ready to go he though.

Mitch was nearly despondent. She wanted this to work so badly. It was irrational, she knew that, but it just was. She couldn't question it any more. Her letdown reaction was starting, and she wasn't done with her task yet. She felt herself start to fall over the edge of that waterfall, and just as she was reaching the edge, where that greatest rush happens, something changed. She was suspended right there on the edge, in ecstacy, but not falling through it. She didn't know what was happening, but it was a mind blowingly good feeling. Her breasts felt like they were similtaniously on fire, and flowing with endless amounts of milk that quenched those flames. A perfect ying and yang of orgasmic energies.

Mitch was too far gone to realize it, but the huge pressure built up by her breast's drive to achieve their natural shape had sealed her nipples to the front wall so tightly that her milk couldn't escape if it wanted to. From Rubin110's perspective he could see that milk was indeed leaking around that seal, and shooting out at high pressure like a water pipe leaking in a submarine that's just suffered a near miss from a depth charge. The leakage wasn't as much as Mitch was still taking in though.

Crack! finally a crack formed in the wall of the shower. It was a spider-web crack, centered on Mitch's left nipple. With a sound like 10,000 plastic bottles being crushed in a giant trash compactor, the crack slowly started to expand. Mitch was positively thrashing around behind all of that boobage, clearly in a state that most humans never experience. Her brain was overloaded with feelings of intense pleasure, as she experienced a tremendous, and seemingly endless letdown reaction, on top of an orgasm to end all orgasms.

PING!! Another spiderweb crack formed, this time centered on her right nipple. What was that old cliche again?

The sound now was nearly deafening. Rubin110 backed away and to the side, and just in time.

SKRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........KAAAAAAABBBBBBBOOOOOSSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wall gave way with a thundrous crash, and Mitch's otherworldly breasts fired into the room with the force of a small bomb going off.

"ANGEL!!!" Rubin110 rushed over to get to Mitch as soon as the threat was clear, only to be greeted by a spray of milk so powerfull it nearly blinded him. The milk was spraying against the mirrored wall so hard it created a back-spray that formed an intense mist.

Rubin110 could hear Mitch screaming, and he turned toward the screem only to run into a wall of boob armpit high on him. Not to be detered, Rubin110 lauched himself up onto Mitch's mountainous right breast, only to find is was so slick with milk and soap that he slid right down into her monumental cleavage, head first. He started to slide down into a that bottomless chasm, only to find it wasn't bottomless. His head popped out into an air space near the bottom, his impossible hard erection, so violent it literally hurt by this point, jammed into Mitch's breast as if he was poking her with a really thick broom handle. Rubin110 turned to his side so he could slide through, and fell to the floor. He could barely breath under here, and realized this wasn't a sustainable situation, so he turned and fought his way to a sitting position, with the intent to stand. From the sitting position, he couldn't breath at all, and as he scrabbled to get his feet under him, he felt himself getting light headed. He reached desperately for the sky with his hands over his head, trying to stand, but he simply could get his feet under him. They kept sliding on the milky soapy floor. As he approached blackout, a thought passed his mind. Not exactly how he would have guessed he would die, but as dying goes, this one had to be somewhere near the top of the list. Finally, just as he was about to pass out, a hand grasped his own, and pulled him up to air.

It was Mitch of course. She could feel him squirming in there, and had thrust her hand in to try to help. The little help she could offer was all he needed to get his feet under him, and he found himself standing shoulder high in boobs. The sound of rushing water, or rather milk was tremendous, and he was staring into the bewilderingly green eyes of his soulmate, who was obviously on some other mental plane at this point.

Mitch could feel everything happening to her, but somehow Rubin110's situation snapped her into a different mental state for a moment. Everything felt extraordinarily brilliant. Light was brighter, smell was stronger, touch and taste were amplified to the nth degree, but somehow hearing was almost muted. She looked into Rubin110's blue eyes, and realized all she wanted.

"Come to me lover." She said with a strange otherworldly calm.

She reached out her arm, and helped Rubin110 wade through the canyon of her cleavage until he was right up against her. She could feel the heat of his impossibly huge errection against her lower stomach.

Mitch reach forward as far as she could wih beaconing lips, and their lips came together like an explosion, then his tongue followed like the flames that follow it. Both of their worlds ceased to exist outside of the feelings of their neathers, mouths, hands, and in Mitch's case especially her breasts. It was like the original trip down the rabbit hole with the cure, only better as she was in control this time, and she got to bring her best friend in the world along for the ride. Mitch reached down into her cleavage, and guided Rubin110's impossibly swollen member to the promised land.

Everything went white, and hot and molten. Time desolved, and all was right with the world.

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== Знайте, что частные клиники могут лечить вас почти даром ==

Имеется такая услуга - добровольное медицинское обслуживание (или ДМО).
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Однако соцопросы показали, что лишь 3% жителей Питера знают об этом.
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== Детская медицина от А до Я ==

Недостаточно беспокоиться о самочувствии родного ребенка - надо производить уверенные действия для его защиты. Причем поручить такой вопрос можно только опытным профессиональным педиатрам.
На сегодняшний день помощь персонального доктора по карману далеко не всем гражданам Нашей страны. А ходить по всякому вопросу в поликлинику, отстаивать долгие очереди и подвергать чадо вероятности заразиться вирусами от других детей - тоже не вариант.
К счастью, многочисленные частные клиники дают оформить программу Детского Добровольного Медицинского Обслуживания (ДМО), которая позволяет за несущественную сумму купить полис на одногодичное обслуживание у докторов.
К сожалению, не многие люди знают о такой услуге и не перестают лечиться народными методами, ждут длительное время в очередях и отдают большие деньги за посещения частных педиатров.
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" Бесплатно или со скидкой осуществлять лечебные процедуры и диагностику;
" Лечить чадо вовремя, качественно и без очередей.
Чтобы ознакомиться со списком клиник и условиями предоставления услуг достаточно написать в поиск Яндекса или Google ключевое выражение: "Добровольное Медицинское Обслуживание". После этого следует выбрать приглянувшуюся клинику и оформить договор.

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== Прорыв в лечении детей ==

Мало волноваться о здоровье своего ребенка - следует предпринимать решительные действия для его защиты. Причем поручить данный вопрос нужно исключительно опытным проверенным докторам.
На сегодняшний день консультации своего врача по карману далеко не всем гражданам Нашей страны. А идти по каждому вопросу в поликлинику, простаивать длинные очереди и подвергать ребенка риску заразиться вирусами от иных детей - тоже не вариант.
К счастью, различные частные клиники дают оформить программу Детского Добровольного Медицинского Обслуживания (ДМО), которая позволяет за незначительную сумму получить полис на одногодичное обслуживание у педиатров.
К сожалению, не многие люди осведомлены о данной услуге и продолжают лечиться народными способами, ждут длительное время в очередях и переплачивают за приемы частных врачей.
А программа Добровольного Медицинского Обслуживания для детей позволяет:
" Бесплатно получить больничный лист по уходу за ребенком;
" Бесплатно обследоваться у личных врачей педиатров;
" Бесплатно или со скидкой проходить лечебные процедуры и диагностические процедуры;
" Лечить чадо сразу, качественно и без очередей.
Чтобы ознакомиться со списком клиник и условиями предоставления лечения достаточно вбить в поиск Яндекса или Google фразу: "Добровольное Медицинское Обслуживание". После этого следует выбрать приглянувшуюся клинику и оформить договор.

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